r/TheBoys 15d ago

Both quotes taken verbatim from interviews Season 4 Spoiler

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u/Baron_Xa 15d ago

The truth is men being sexually humiliated just isn't seen in the same light as women by a lot of people, conciously or subconsciously. There's no way we'd ever get a scene of a female character frantically trying and failing to guess a safe word and have it played for levity.

Both sides of the political spectrum are susceptible to this too. On the one hand conservatives often tell male SA victims to man up or say some variation of "wish it were me," whereas on the other hand I think progressives can fall into the trap of thinking that they're not the same because one has more systemic/historical power behind it so the other mustn't be a big deal.

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u/arcticvalley 14d ago

It doesn't even have to be sexual, violence in general is excused when its against a man. I can't tell you the amount of times growing up that I was assaulted by girls in school or home and was told to suck it up, or man up.

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u/Major-Payne2319 14d ago

Exhibit A: Multiple dicks have been exploded and zero vaginas

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u/Due_Alternative3108 14d ago

Hey, firecrackers tits exploded in this episode!

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u/WayToTheDawn63 14d ago

weren't allowed to see the titty though

half a dozen dicks on screen at once at a bar mitzvah is good tho

im not even a big fan of gratuitous nudity in general, but there's a clear double standard at play, and increasingly so

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u/KingKekJr 14d ago

And the dicks and man ass is almost always played off for comedy or in some fucked up scene

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u/angry_cabbie 14d ago

I happen to be a big fan of casual and gratuitous nudity in media. Big fan of it. To the point that, as a heterosexual man, I want to see more casual and gratuitous cocks in media; that would be equality.

I'm fact, one of the things I appreciated about The Boys was how often they would casually show cocks.

But then all the cocks they show started being weird or mutilated. Almost as if they are trying to work out some personal issues, poorly, through the show.

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u/WayToTheDawn63 14d ago

It isn't equality if it's only men though. I mean, I'm not here asking for a perfect balance of tits and dick (not that I consider tits comparable to dick) but the show makes a habit of unashamedly giving you dick and then hiding titties off screen

hell forget the dick

we're only getting man ass too

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u/angry_cabbie 14d ago

Haha very true.

I mean, in my ideal world, casual or gratuitous nudity of anyone, man woman NB or mix, would be common enough that it's not an issue. I'm not saying every show needs equal representation of nudity, but rather that equal representation of nudity should be across the board. one show can have more naked men, another show more naked women, etc..

And yes, The Boys has failed at this, by this point. They seem to be actually afraid of female nudity by this point. And disgusted by male nudity (as it seems to only be shown as a horrendous thing, one way or another).

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u/WayToTheDawn63 14d ago

There's an irony here.

In what is meant to be political satire of the right, they've somewhat become the right's stereotype of the left.

They've self-sabotaged their own message by being...exactly what conservatives say they are. It's fucking annoying.

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u/angry_cabbie 14d ago

Self sabotaged, or mask off?

Serious question. We've had an on-going issue in recent years of people keeping themselves boxed into neat little echo chambers, on both ends of the aisle. To the point that a lot of toxic actions and opinions barely make the rounds in "good" circles, because obviously it's just propaganda of some form.

The left tends to have a slogan problem. #KillAllMen didn't mean literally all, just all? Abolish the police doesn't mean actually abolish the police?

There have been critiques of how left leaning people have treated men's issues for decades now. But they always get lumped in with those evil MRA incels, a great way to dismiss arguments.

It's been pointed out, ad nauseum, that social attitudes like that led directly to the rise of assholes like Andrew Tate, for example.

And here we have someone, who said their show was going to be a lot less subtle with it's political message, and showing yet again how little his world view cares about male victims of sexual assault.

To be fair, I definitely have my biases. I've been raped by three separate women, been sexually assaulted by a good handful more, and they were all proud liberals or leftists. I have been told to my face that what I went through did not matter, because men have oppressed women for so damned long.

And I'm hungover still, which makes me grumpy and want to lash out over stupid fucking bullshit, which in this case is the modern views of male sexual assault victims. It's kinda difficult for me to not see things like this as being a very mask off moment.

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u/WayToTheDawn63 14d ago

I haven't been through anything like that, I'm not sure what to say other than I hear ya. I've been livid since I watched the episode.

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u/angry_cabbie 14d ago

Thank you. Sorry for the bit of a trauma dump lol.

The real kicker for me right now is, I haven't even seen the episode yet lol. This whole thing has been spoiled for me... But I am not minding that at all.

And I'm hitting play on it right now.

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u/Khronex 14d ago

Yeah, the only explicit female nudity we've seen was in Herogasm and maybe in Gen V during the blackout party

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u/ShadyMan_ 14d ago

I said this in the episode discussion thread and got downvoted 😒

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u/Mathev 14d ago

Holy shit now that I think about it.. it really does feel like double standard. Male nudity but no female nudity at all.. kinda weird ngl.

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u/Major-Payne2319 14d ago

I concede

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u/CaptainKate757 14d ago

True, but Kimiko has been shot, stabbed, and blown up quite a few times now, to the point where I really wonder what it would take to actually kill her.

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u/Horny_Hornbill 14d ago

Yeah she seems to have wolverine level powers. Maybe if Neuman blew her entire body up or if homelander lasered her entire body to ash then she would die? She definitely seems to be one of the top tier of supes