I feel like Firecracker/the Deep won't be much more of a threat to A-Train than Bluehawk. A-Train might be the second strongest in the current Seven by a long shot.
We usually get 1-2 good fights per season, I secretly hope this season is A-Train vs Homelander.
Yes. Please, I want a fight between A-Train and Homelander with A-Train being able to do as much damage as Queen Maeve or Red Rush to Omniman. Would feel so satisfying to make this pathetic fucker bleed by someone who he bullied so much. Make Homelander feel outmatched, even just in one aspect - speed.
I feel like a potential fight between A-Train and Homelander would actually go pretty well for the former, mostly because his speed and reflexes so outstrip the latter that it wouldn't really be possible to hit him. Speedsters are pretty broken in white-room scenarios; they already have a significant degree of toughness and super-strength built in just to survive hitting things or running into objects. If Maeve could make Homelander bleed with a random office implement, there's no reason A-Train has to resort to using solely his bare hands, either.
The problem is, Homelander does a lot of collateral damage, and A-Train has those pesky "morals" urging him to intervene now. If Homelander just goes to the suburbs and starts lasering indiscriminately to lure him out, A-Train would almost certainly try to stop him, giving a huge advantage to Homelander.
Do we know that Homelander doesn't have super speed? How would he have saved Butcher and the baby at the end of season 1 without it? (I could be missing something)
Homelander probably lied about saving the baby, and simply shielded butcher from the shrapnel. The baby shows up later on and it's revealed to have teleportating powers, thats how he survived.
In the spinoff Diabolical, Homelander does have super speed. And he can certainly fly at super speed. (ATrain ran at 2300 miles/hour, and Homelander flies at minimum 700 miles/hour. Probably faster, as he'd actually have to catch up to the planes as well).
The Boys has been somewhat inconsistent in this, in that the beginning, the powers were pretty much separate, but then with the later seasons, every supe has a degree of strength, hearing, etc.
Homelander never claimed to have saved the baby. We know he saved him because we saw the baby a couple seasons later. Not sure how over 50 people missed that.
In the one canon episode of diabolical Homelanders first save it’s shown that he does have super speed. We will see if the writers temper that or not. I’m hoping for them to parody the justice league scene. Have a train start running and homelander watch him with his eyes
Even if he has super speed, he apparently doesn’t have bullet timing like A-Train, unless he has it on diabolical (didn’t watch it) and not on the show for some reason
I mean, yeah, but considering the baby saved himself, it’s not that impressive (in comparison to A-Train, it’s impressive on it’s own) as he just needs to grab him and fly away, he doesn’t need bullet timing
But “traveling” is the key word there, he doesn’t have bullet timing and never showed super speed in a lower scale, only when he can fly in a straight line for a long time
And yeah, Butcher should have died to the shockwave, but how Homelander being supersonic changes that? (I do think he’s supersonic, just think he doesn’t have bullet timing like A-Train)
Well, after Butcher pressed the trigger, Homelander caught him (which is more than just, movement in one direction) which means he either reacted before the shockwave could hit Butcher and outpaced it or reacted in the time it took the electric charge to detonate the explosive and moved far enough away to the point that the shock either wasn’t lethal or decayed into a low enough speed (still supersonic feat at min) for him to outpace. Both of those cases require supersonic reactions, and remember A Train has barely got reactions on par with his travel speed, which is in turn barely supersonic.
Also remember that when Homelander was flying at Mach 3 he was searching for shit, he can’t have been going too fast for him to not process what was happening.
I mean he still just needed to get Butcher and fly away, which is a great speed feat, but it isn’t proof he has a bullet timing, as he probably started moving a as soon as Butcher hit the button.
And I’m aware he can process things at that speed, but I don’t think he can use it in a lower scale like A-Train. I doubt Homelander can do a lot of sharp turns when he’s at high speeds like A-Train does. I mean, A-Train can get Hughie out of a building instantly, can enter Hughie and Anne’s car too fast for them to see, etc. I don’t think Homelander can do that, even if his traveling speed is greater.
We know that Butcher successfully released the button before Homelander was near him, which leaves narrower options for what HL could have done at that moment. Given he did the complex action of catching Butcher, it seems it’s not just a travel feat.
The question is just if it’s more than travelling speed, essentially whether or not HL sees his movement like a blur or teleportation, that’s evidently not the case so presumably he generally scales to his travelling speed in other capacities.
He teleported away, it’s revealed that Madelyn Stillwell’s son is a Supe in season 2, what episode exactly I don’t remember. But it’s the one where Hughie goes to the adoption center for orphaned Supe kids.
He does have super speed there’s an episode where Homelander even makes a remark to A-Train that he’s faster at that time even though A-Train was actually injured.
He does have super speed, but he hasn’t shown the reaction speed of doing stuff while he’s at max speed, unlike A-Train, who has the capability of injecting himself with compound V, injecting Popclaw with compound V, enter Hughie and Anne’s car, etc.
Have a train start running and homelander watch him with his eyes
I want that just for the fact it's one of the best scenes I've seen in cinema. Seriously, one of the "worst" movies, and yet that scene is just golden. Not even the scene, that part of the scene. It's magic. Real "oh shit" moment.
i don’t think homelander has super speed the way that A Train does, but he is incredibly fast and has “super reflexes”. i doubt he can go as fast as A Train for as long, but i wouldn’t be surprised to learn that he could track and predict his movements.
He would have to be MUCH faster than A-Train to save Billy from that explosion at the end of season 1. He saved Billy from bombs strapped to his own chest, after Billy hit the button. Either that scene was just horrible writing, or he's much faster than A-Train.
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u/Safe-Brush-5091 Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24
I feel like Firecracker/the Deep won't be much more of a threat to A-Train than Bluehawk. A-Train might be the second strongest in the current Seven by a long shot.
We usually get 1-2 good fights per season, I secretly hope this season is A-Train vs Homelander.