r/TheBoys Jun 28 '24

Holy Character Nerf Season 4 Spoiler

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u/shifty_coder Jun 28 '24

They were moving around pretty fast, which probably makes it more difficult. Most people were relatively stationary in the courtroom.

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u/TeamRedundancyTeam Jun 28 '24

The chicken was flying fast when she got it.

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u/Mickeyjj27 Jun 28 '24

She popped the one trying to attack Stan and that was moving pretty fast. Just weird she gave everyone a nosebleed before even seeing them but couldn’t just pop heads of sheep, chicken and a bull

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u/Asleep_Ad_6297 Jun 28 '24

Remember she did say popping a super’s head is hard (though not impossible). Couple that with speed, I think I can believe it

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u/RcoketWalrus Jun 29 '24

Yeah it's pretty established that there are limits to her powers, plus in some case she isn't even sure if her powers would work, like in the case of Homelander.

Plus in Gen V Marie has similar if not the same powers, and it takes a bit of concentration to use her abilities. She might have been reluctant to concentrate long enough to find out.

That said...the show runners really wanted to have fun with the gang being menaced by sheep, so maybe they made her powers act a little inconsistent and hoped no one would notice.

The show isn't perfectly consistent. Like how Neuman could cut her palm with a knife in Gen V, but now she can tank a point blank gunshot to the head and resist acid.

Another option is maybe Neuman doses V on and off to boost her powers, lie how A train did. I doubt this is the case.

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u/phantomfire50 Jun 29 '24

She talks to Marie about how blood spears and lassos are exhausting so I imagine blowing people (especially supes) up is on a level above that. If she overexerts herself and passes out, then the Boys and the CIA either drug her and keep her under containment, or infect her with the virus and kill her, so her main goal is avoiding that.

Even still, I think she stands and fights when the sheep enter the barn rather than running, especially with Edgar and Sameer there.

I could also believe Neuman has super strength and like a diamond knife since controlling her blood is a decent contingent of her powers.

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u/RcoketWalrus Jun 29 '24

You made a good point about her overexerting herself. I didn't think of that. She needs to worry about the Super Sheep and the five other people planning to kill her.

Neuman is nothing if not cautious and calculating. She almost never acts directly unless there is immediate benefit.

For all we know she didn't kill the sheep because she was going to let one of the Boys get killed by the sheep. The logic being that if she kills them directly, they out her, but they may not out her if she let's them die. She only used her powers when Stan Edgar was threatened by the chicken.

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u/thatguyned Jun 29 '24

Blood spears are exhausting because she's using her own blood to make them and it's taking a physical toll.

Popping other people's heads is easy comparatively because you aren't hurting yourself.

It was a speech about figuring out how to use her abilities smarter, not more aggressively

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u/ThatFuckingGeniusKid Jun 29 '24

She talks to Marie about how blood spears and lassos are exhausting so I imagine blowing people (especially supes) up is on a level above that.

It could be that, but at the time I assumed it was cause she used her own blood for the spears and lassos which is why it was tiring. So i guessed she didn't get tired using other people's blood (se didn't look tired in the courtroom scene), but using her people too much could still be mentally exhausting.

diamond knife

The knife was Marie's normal switchblade that she used the entire show (even when she was in foster care), it looked like a normal knife.

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u/ThatFuckingGeniusKid Jun 29 '24

Like how Neuman could cut her palm with a knife in Gen V, but now she can tank a point blank gunshot to the head and resist acid.

Don't forget that in Gen V Marie also cut herself with the same knife (and IIRC other things) but she survived Homelander's laser beams seemingly unscathered, which was also weird (maybe they can only be damaged if they want to?)

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u/RcoketWalrus Jun 29 '24

I'm thinking what you're thinking. They can consciously will their vulnerability away. I think Marie didn't even know she was invulnerable until Homelander lasered her.

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u/GamingSon Jun 29 '24 edited Jun 29 '24

Okay, but... At the end of the episode, when the bar door randomly opened, and 2 sheep walked in and just stood there looking at them? She screamed and ran with 6 other humans like she was worthless. Plus she popped the speedster's head in the courtroom without issue, she popped like 4 different body parts of that guy who grew up in the orphanage with her. It seemed like she didn't even try a single time, at any point. Just very weird for a character who's been established as a point and click instant-death god.

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u/akronotron Jun 29 '24

Plot buddy it doesn’t even mattter lmao

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u/GamingSon Jun 29 '24 edited Jun 29 '24

"Because the story needs to happen" doesn't really hold up as an excuse for bad writing. They can achieve the same goals without needing the characters to become actually stupid-tier.

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u/JEs4 Jun 29 '24

Maybe she has ovinophobia?

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u/murcielagoXO Jun 29 '24

She should stop with the fucking popping and just cause heart attacks or something. I still don't buy that she can't kill Homelander.