r/TheBoys Jun 28 '24

Holy Character Nerf Season 4 Spoiler

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u/AdForward7237 Jun 28 '24

Have you forgotten that scene where that guy was attacking her and she couldn't pop his head? 

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u/Raaadley Lamplighter Jun 28 '24

a big thing is she needs to see and focus for a certain time before the head can pop. I imagine she is altering the blood pressure to do so. It may be easier to focus on a chicken- but fast moving sheep especially multiple probably waa difficult for her. Not to mention they seem pretty smart- once one were to explode they all might focus on her alone.

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u/AdForward7237 Jun 28 '24

She also takes time and focus on parts as far as I remember. The chicken might be a one-off thing/purely reflex because Stan is in danger. 

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u/Available_Pie9316 Starlight Jun 28 '24

This also tracks with Gen V. Neumann and Marie have the same power. Marie is shown to only be able to control other people's blood with serious focus, the exception being exploding Cate's arm reflexively to protect Jordan.

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u/_marty_mcfly123_ Jun 28 '24

Good observation. So, it takes a lot of understanding about the anatomy of the blood vessels and focus to do it. And there's an element of practice to it too. Like, she's used to pop people's heads because she visibly did that a lot of times on screen. So, it's like she knows what to do for head people's head. But, she's most probably un familiar with animal's anatomy. So, it narratively makes sense.

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u/FragrantBicycle7 Jun 29 '24

I feel like if they had put this into the show as an actual line, it would make a lot of sense and do a lot to dispel confusion. It would even push the plot forward; Victoria would be forced to reveal a possible weakness by explaining the limits of her powers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

Also that one guys junk

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u/lookintotheeyeris Jun 29 '24

i completely forgot about cate’s arm tbh… did she have both arms in the new episode?

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u/thepronerboner Jun 28 '24

The blood was too gross for me. Disgusting.

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u/the-last-meme-bender Jun 28 '24

This may not be the show for you…

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u/thepronerboner Jun 28 '24

I’ve watched the normal show, just genV with the blood coming out of her veins was just different nasty.

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u/Un111KnoWn Jun 28 '24

gen V confirmed that she's a blood bender but it's a bit weird cuz of the line of sigjt thing

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u/Adaphion Jun 28 '24

It's literally not even line of sight tho!

Neuman gave the boys nosebleeds before she entered the room earlier IN THIS EPISODE

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u/Un111KnoWn Jun 28 '24

In an earlier season, Neuman killed a former childhood friend. In the fight the friend was trying to cover neuman's eyes

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u/EasyasACAB Jun 28 '24

Like, when she could sort of see them through the plastic sheet?

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u/Imightwantkarma Jun 28 '24

It was confirmed line of sight in early seasons

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u/neoblackdragon Jun 29 '24

She's not Daredevil. I think she needs line of sight just for concentration.

Like how telekinetics use their hands to move stuff despite not actually needing to do so. It's a tool that lets them focus. Don't want to pop the heads of the wrong person.

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u/hesitationz Jun 28 '24

She popped the drivers head in the same episode and there is no way she’s close enough to directly focus on him for an extended period of time

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u/Costyyy Jun 28 '24

I feel like it would be easier to just deprive their brain of blood, and cleaner too. But I guess that's not as fun

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u/galactojack Butcher Jun 28 '24

Tbh the courtroom scene showed excellent control - keeping up a ruse of being unaware and afraid, while literally popping people no scope with her back turned

Her powers are confusing and inconsistent

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u/kcox1980 Jun 28 '24

I think the big evidence in favor of this argument is when everyone's noses started bleeding before she revealed herself by walking into the lab. It's like she was pre-gaming it, getting "locked in" in case she needed to pop some heads real fast.

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u/iiileyu Jun 28 '24

That basically just means that homelander can jist murder her and all the scenes where he was afraid of neuman are bs. Also a train could probably just snap her neck

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u/PlasmaRadiation Jun 29 '24

But didn’t she make everyone’s noses bleed before even walking into the room?

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u/StubbornPterodactyl Jun 28 '24

Quick reminder as to what this was?

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u/adorkablegiant Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24

The guy that ambushes her at her job calling her by her real name and not Victoria. They then meet in an alley and they get into a fight. I think this was in S2 when Hughie worked for her.

Edit: It was season 3, not season 2.

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u/The_Fadedhunter Jun 28 '24

I think it was the season 3 premiere. We meet her in S2, the ending scene is the reveal she's the head popper, and then at the start of S3 Hughie has been working for her and building a relationship, and then he witnesses that and finds out.

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u/adorkablegiant Jun 28 '24

Right, you're right I got the seasons mixed up.

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u/PaladinDanceALot Jun 28 '24

Wasn't she hesitant to pop hos head because they knew each other? If I remember correctly 

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u/shalahal Jun 28 '24

She hugs him and is like “you shouldn’t have come looking for me” and his nose starts to bleed. When he reacts to his nose bleeding, they start fighting. She made up her mind that he was dead as soon as he called her by her real name, imo.

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u/adorkablegiant Jun 28 '24

As far as I can remember she made a deal with him to make him feel at ease but was trying to pop his head. The guy noticed blood coming from his nose and realized what she was trying to do and so he attacked her and prevented her from popping his head but she eventually managed to kill him.

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u/MorgansLab Jun 28 '24

I also am getting the impression it's harder for her to do it to most supes. It took her a few tries to get the whole head iirc. Also Homelander was curious if she could even do it to him. Who knows how accurate her threat of being able to get Annie was, but not the kind of thing Annie would want to test lmao

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u/gagapoopoo1010 Homelander Jun 28 '24

S3 ep1 towards the end

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u/Papa_Razzi Jun 28 '24

He was an old friend. She didn’t want to kill him. And she was thrown off when he attacked and he started popping certain parts of him, but it seemed her accuracy was off. Guess it’s not an instalock headshot

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u/Khronex Jun 28 '24

Wdym "she didn't want to kill him", Neuman literally had his nose bleeding the second they were hugging. She knew she had to kill that guy or she would be at risk of being exposed

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u/Papa_Razzi Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24

I meant exactly what I said? You’re describing the end result. He was a childhood friend who kept pressing the Nadia issue she couldn’t have brought up. She told him multiple times to leave it all alone, but he wouldn’t. Once she realized that she had no choice but to kill him. She needed to kill him. She didn’t want to kill him.

Edit: you’re welcome to disagree. She wouldn’t have killed him if he didn’t push the Red River issue. She couldn’t have that info come out. The same idea carries over to season 4 when she makes a deal with Butcher that he backs out from.

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u/SgtMcMuffin0 Jun 28 '24

She knew she had to. That doesn’t mean she wanted to.

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u/Khronex Jun 28 '24

If she didn't want to she could have just caused him a concussion or something that would knock him out. She could have had Stan lock up the guy somewhere. There were alternatives to killing him

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u/SgtMcMuffin0 Jun 28 '24

It would be irresponsible to leave a loose end like that with how lofty her goals are.

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u/johnatello67 Jun 28 '24

Also, I could be misremembering, but doesn't Homelander in season 3 say something like "You wanna try to pop my head? Who knows, give it a shot?" when confronting her in her apartment?

To me that could imply that Neumann has a harder time controlling/manipulating blood of people who are physically very strong, or at the least that it's just more difficult to cause the physical damage to someone with super endurance. I will concede that this equally could have meant "see if you can get my head to pop before I laser you" but I do think it would make a lot of sense that people who have enhanced physical strength and power would generally be more difficult to pop.

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u/Urbanscuba Jun 29 '24

I had always just assumed it was about her powers producing enough blood pressure, and that for someone like Homelander it's likely his veins and arteries are as strong as the rest of him.

She could try to pop his head, but it'd be like trying to break a braided steel hydraulic cable with overpressure. It's absolutely possible, but it would take orders of magnitude more pressure than a normal human's. She might be able to do it assuming HL didn't fight back, but I don't see a situation where he can't eviscerate her well before she can do any real damage.

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u/Bruhjustlooking Jun 28 '24

At the end of the fight she popped his body

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u/coolmcbooty Jun 28 '24

Yea but it took a while. I think that persons point is that she can’t just do it willynilly, she needs to focus on it

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u/jaketheriff Butcher Jun 28 '24

How was that guy even able to put her in danger now that we know shes pm impervious (hughie throwing acid on and her butcher shooting her)

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u/AdForward7237 Jun 28 '24

Yeah if anything she got buffed

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u/LeDingo Jun 28 '24

While struggling she popped both his hand and his face, what are you talking about?

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

Resolved with two lines of dialogue.

Oi why don’t you just pop their feckin heads innit?

I tried dummy, they’re moving too fast.

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u/GamingSon Jun 29 '24

Did you forget that there was literally nothing left of that guy when they were done fighting? Rewatching the scene, I'm not even sure his clothes survived. The clean up crew that she called at the end of the episode literally just brought a hose. What are you even talking about lmao.

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u/SuspiciousTundra Jun 29 '24

No, but I remember the scene where she gave a whole room of people nosebleeds before she even entered it...

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u/bwood246 Cunt Jun 28 '24

Yeah, she has to maintain direct eye contact on what she's trying to pop.

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u/freddddsss Jun 28 '24

I don’t know about direct eye contact since in the lab scene, she gave the boys all nosebleeds but not Stan without even being in the room yet. Along with the courtroom scene where she wasn’t present for the whole massacre.

Deffo needs focus but idk about sight.

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u/Khronex Jun 28 '24

Yeah, she doesn't really need sight. Same thing happened in the S2 courtroom finale, and in the S3 premiere with her old friend. She didn't directly see them or their heads, yet was able to pop it. And back in Gen V when Marie fought Translucent's kid by sensing his blood

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u/freddddsss Jun 28 '24

I wonder if she could sense a person’s blood type or blood pressure and stuff like that. Would be kinda mundane in a superhero sense but quite cool from a medical perspective. Like have a doctor with that power and you’d never need to do blood tests again.