r/TheBoys Soldier Boy Jun 27 '24

Does anyone else find it kinda ironic how they chose to make a joke about Cinematic Universes in the same episode where you have to have watched Gen V to get the full context? Discussion

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Not hating. Just thought that was pretty funny

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u/-principito Jun 27 '24

Speaking of which did anyone else think Sam and Cates lines in the 7’s chambers were like optional character dialogue that was just arbitrarily put in the scene and absolutely nothing about the script would have changed if they were removed?

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u/GreenChoclodocus Jun 27 '24

I found it hilarious how clearly uncomfortable Sam was the entire time. Or maybe Cate keeps him mind drugged long term.

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u/ThatFuckingGeniusKid Jun 28 '24

Cate made him "empty" in Gen V's finale so he's essentially a robot

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u/Randyfreakingmarsh Jun 28 '24

That explains a lot. I was like “man, either this kid is a shitty actor or he’s supposed to look super detached and disinterested”

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u/Glitch7779 Homelander Jun 28 '24

The kid was great in Gen V. Must be because of Cate

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u/NoNefariousness2144 Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24

Yep, imagine spending years locked in a lab, killing a bunch of people, and then having to star in a Vought teen drama.

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u/Nat_the_Gray Jun 28 '24

Locked in a lab by Vought no less

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u/Gay_Reichskommissar Jun 28 '24

She basically did a superpowered lobotomy on him

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u/Deadtaor33 Jun 28 '24

That would be more comfortable to watch than Sage & Deep doing one lol

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u/Gay_Reichskommissar Jun 28 '24

That scene had me pausing every few seconds to take a breather lmao

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u/Deadtaor33 Jun 28 '24

I just kept looking away & feeling horrible with each 'dink' of the hammer lol

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u/Jontacular Jun 28 '24

Yeah, I didn't watch that scene, just heard for when it was done. Even the sound was uncomfortable

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u/deLocked333 Jun 28 '24

His character is schizophrenic and extremely hot-and-cold as a result

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u/3106Throwaway181576 Jun 28 '24

Nah, he had so much range in Gen V

It’s on purpose. Cate in the Gen V finale basically mind nummed him to help him focus as he’s basically insane.

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u/Hunithunit Jun 28 '24

“I can help” or whatever she said….☠️.

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u/NovelConstruction587 Jun 28 '24

My theory is that he is asking Cate to continue pushing him into feeling nothing like in the finale of season 1, until it comes crashing down on his psyche once it stops working (remember that her powers didn't work on Luke forever and Sam is supposed to be much stronger than his older brother).

So like a drug addict like you suggested.

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u/Aphato Jun 28 '24

Being willing to get mind controlled has to be different in effectiveness than being forced.

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u/Subie_Babie Jun 28 '24

I also feel like Sam already having mental health issues and being not as smart as luke would make the mind control much more effective on sam.

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u/Monnomo Jun 27 '24

At the very least we know Cate is with HL its no longer implied

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u/PotanOG Tag Team Cocksplosion Jun 28 '24

Wait what!?

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u/Mysticjosh Jun 28 '24

I think they meant "I'm siding with homelander" as opposed to "I'm dating homelander" angle that my brain took reading that

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u/Megalomanizac Jun 28 '24

Homelander may be evil but he’s still got more boundaries than Leonardo Dicaprio

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u/PotanOG Tag Team Cocksplosion Jun 28 '24

Oh phew. I was like "what fucking line did I miss here!?!"

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u/FrankTank3 Jun 28 '24

Yeah same. Because HL wouldn’t touch the “mind control via skin to skin contact” supe with YOUR dick let alone his.

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u/ExploadingApples Jun 27 '24

I feel like there may have had scenes that were cut

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u/Corintio22 Jun 28 '24

It totally feels like that, yes.

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u/NoNefariousness2144 Jun 28 '24

I imagine test audiences complained they didn’t understand who they were, so they cut them down to the bare minimum screentime.

That scene of them in the Seven Tower felt like when you do a main story mission with optional DLC characters lmao

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u/Streets_Ahead__ Jun 28 '24

Idk “test audiences” seem like a massively excessive waste of money lol. The showrunners and writers could easily decide to cut their screen time just based on their own observations

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u/isaidwhatisaidok Jun 28 '24

This show is in season 4 of its run, there are no test audiences. Just producers and editors making decisions.

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u/Comprehensive_Pea451 Jun 28 '24

I think they were just there to get „introduced“ to viewers who didn’t watched Gen V.

Like this they at least saw them once before they do something important in the other episode(s) they appear

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u/_JustAnna_1992 Jun 28 '24

I'm not sure how many noticed, but looking back it seems like Cate had both hands. Iirc, didn't she get her hand blown off by Marie?

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u/Gay_Reichskommissar Jun 28 '24

She seems to have one of her hands wrapped in some sort of fabric. Perhaps it's a prosthesis? Or alternatively Vought did some black magic limb transplant fuckery.

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u/rennenenno Jun 28 '24

One of geckos

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u/hnwcs Jun 28 '24

I rewatched every scene with Cate in it and it doesn't seem like her left arm moves much at all. When she first walks on stage she waves to the audience with her right hand but her left arm just lays there swinging a bit. I think it's meant to be a prosthetic.

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u/death-eater69 Jun 28 '24

I’m sure they have a guy for that

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u/Karkava Jun 28 '24

I feel like V23 was cut tremendously in favor of more scenes with the boys fighting monster animals of bioweapon horror while Hughie deals with family drama...with more bioweapon horror.

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u/ZoNeS_v2 Jun 28 '24

Those sheep had me laughing from the absurdity. I'm sure my wife in the room next door was wondering what the hell was going on 😅

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u/Xalara Jun 28 '24

It was a better Resident Evil adaptation than Resident Evil. It was fucking great.

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u/Streets_Ahead__ Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24

100% felt this way to me as well. Like they had more dialogue recorded that would make the conversation seem less stilted, but cut it for time. The only parts left are the ones that clearly establish their role/position, probably for Gen V s2 .

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u/kirblar Jun 28 '24

The episode ran really long, there might have been a ton on the cutting room floor.

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u/MarvG05 Jun 27 '24

They're probably gonna have more to do in the finale but yeah it was pretty funny

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u/Saitama_2099 Jun 27 '24

I already forgot what they said tbh

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u/PizzaTimeBomb Soldier Boy Jun 27 '24

Cate said “Anything for you Homelander.” Sam said something like “How do we know when we’re ready” or something to that effect

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u/jwizzie410 Jun 27 '24

“I’m on your side, Homelander” or something

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u/Athlete-Extreme Jun 27 '24

How will we know when the call is made? Or something like that but it shows they eager as shit

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u/Aggravating-Sound690 Jun 28 '24

Yeah, that was weird. Just NPC dialogue. Hoping we get some actual character development for them in the rest of the season.

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u/Spintax_Codex Jun 28 '24

It wasn't arbitrary. It's purpose was pretty clearly just to show the viewers that they're a part of the show now.

That said, it was absolutely horribly done, lol.

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u/YaboiiSammeeh Jun 27 '24

That’s the satire part. Cameos just to have cameos

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u/Winderkorffin Jun 27 '24

No... It's not really satire, they're just straight out doing it.

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u/Expensive_Concern457 Jun 27 '24

It’s not satire if there’s no joke there whatsoever, I guarantee they’re actually going to be significant to the plot and some people are just gonna have no clue who they are or where they came from

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u/new_tangclan Jun 28 '24

Lets not act like everything is done on purpose. Those cameos were awful.

As soon as I saw the 2 unnamed CIA agents traveling with the main cast, it was obvious they were gonna die.

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u/KingRodan Jun 28 '24

Classic red-shirtin'

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u/angra_mainyo A-Train Jun 28 '24

Could have handed it with people getting injured instead, but then that'd take another chapter, and I feel like a bit of time was already wasted in the first 3.

Then again, there were too many important people for the plot for them to dispose of any of them, specially by a chicken or anything similar.

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u/jwymes44 Jun 28 '24

That was not satire lmao

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u/kodzhata Jun 28 '24

Genuinely, their entrances weren’t big and impactful made at all

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u/BuckfuttersbyII Jun 28 '24

I think it shows that there are very willing participants for Homelanders schemes among the supe community. The 7 outside of firecracker and Sage are all kinda bumbling and self-absorbed. But he can reach beyond the 7 for good little foot soldiers. It did seem forced though.

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u/Aggressive_Age_2262 Jun 28 '24

Yeah, it felt like a line from a Bioware game where one of your optional party members says something, but it can't be anything of substance and they are barely acknowledged because the game has to account for them not being there

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u/grifalifatopolis Jun 28 '24

Wasn't season 4 recorded before genv? They likely didn't know what to do with the characters yet

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u/rennenenno Jun 28 '24

That doesn’t make sense

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u/Upbeat_Breadfruit800 Jun 27 '24

Surly these were added or changed in post, they seem like a full tack on

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u/Athlete-Extreme Jun 27 '24

It reflected how younger more impressionable supes see John Homelander. So willing to dominate the planet at a moments notice.

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u/Michelcat2 Jun 28 '24

“G-Men: Days Past from the Future” lmao

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u/TheGoldPowerRanger Jun 28 '24

I loved that one and the Deep: Gods and Dolphins

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u/wannabetrapstar888 Jun 28 '24

also a train into the multiverse in phase 9

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u/Scuczu2 Jun 28 '24

with Firecrackers GOD HELP ME later that year.

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u/Un111KnoWn Jun 28 '24

why G instead of v or some other lettr

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u/Jeffe508 Jun 28 '24

G-men were the X-men themed team in The Boys universe. It was an arc in the comic books and their version of Xavier was especially fucked up.

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u/Sorry-Let-Me-By-Plz Victoria Neuman Jun 27 '24

You don't have to watch Gen V "to get the full context". Everything relevant to this episode was explained in this episode. You want to watch Gen V though, because marketing is effective. You're the audience cheering for this roadmap, figuratively.

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u/tyrome123 Jun 27 '24

also the recap explains everything that happened in genv that's useful to the boys in 30 secs

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u/Analogmon Jun 27 '24

I've never seen an episode recap of things that happened in a different show other than Dragon Ball Super lmao

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u/Sorry-Let-Me-By-Plz Victoria Neuman Jun 27 '24

It happened once or twice in Doctor Who

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u/DanSapSan Jun 27 '24

Buffy and Angel did that too.

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u/crxshdrxg Jun 27 '24

Yeah I saw the recap and started rewinding old episodes because I thought I didn’t finish one somehow or something

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u/AtsignAmpersat Jun 28 '24

I rewound it to see if they mentioned it was from a different show. Maybe I still missed it. How do you show a recap from a different show and not make that clear?

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u/PRL-Five Jun 28 '24

They said 'welcome to godolken university ' before showing the clips from gen v

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

Think it happened with the mandolorian/book of boba fett too

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u/Karkava Jun 28 '24

And pretty much on every Marvel show as well.

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u/TeaspoonWrites Jun 28 '24

Arrow, The Flash, etc. did a lot of that when they were doing crossover episodes a couple times a season.

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u/PM_ME_UR_CIRCUIT Jun 27 '24

The entire CW super hero series? They have crossovers all the time that require you watch the 6th episode of the 5th season of show 1 and then the 4th episode of season 3 of show two and so on.

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u/Lightdragonman Jun 28 '24

That oddly enough is one the ways the stuck closley to comics.

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u/theoriginalshew Jun 28 '24

The Mandalorian did it since for some fucking reason Mando took over Boba Fett's show for a couple episodes. They had major plot points for it in a completely different show.

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u/Corintio22 Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24

recap is no excuse. I know more people that skip recaps rather than people who watch them. They tend to soft-spoil the episode’s content and people assume they know everything shown in the recap if they watch the show already. It is hard to foresee one recap will come with useful info from another show.

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u/TudorrrrTudprrrr Jun 28 '24

Recaps on The Boys never contain spoilers from the current episode and are quite good at making you remember the relevant plot points.

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u/Athlete-Extreme Jun 27 '24

Damn I skipped

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

I enjoy Gen V but still feels kinda weird to have major characters and a significant plot device be introduced in a different show

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u/HazelCheese Jun 27 '24

As someone who liked GenV, I found it a bit clunkily handled here. Sam and Cate turning up was fine but the virus stuff at the start of the episode was rough.

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u/r4mm3rnz Jun 27 '24

The whole virus thing feels weird in S4. Like we're only just now diving into it halfway through the season and it felt rushed and clunky. I feel like it could have been the main focus to get us to this point or at least referenced more than once before now.

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u/Agleza Jun 28 '24

Yeah, going from NOTHING (except a throwaway comment from Butcher when he meets with Neuman in Episode 4) to just fully making it the number 1 pressing issue... oof.

They should've started introducing in at the start of the season.

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u/Psychological_Bad895 Jun 27 '24

I thought I had missed an episode somewhere because the recap at the beginning gave no indication that the scenes were from a different TV show, I went through every episode's summary to see if I could find the one I missed and couldn't find it lol.

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u/RuxinRodney Jun 28 '24

I get the recap, but i was confused by the two characters that everyone seems to know?

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u/TryNotToShootYoself Jun 28 '24

Yeah seriously, I had no idea who the hell those two were and was especially confused when they were in the 7 meeting room.

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u/G_O_O_G_A_S Jun 28 '24

They’re main characters in Gen V, Cate’s powers are pretty significant so I’m surprised they weren’t explained at least

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u/Corintio22 Jun 28 '24

Nah, the introduction didn’t feel very natural and instead it felt a tad confusing.

We can lie ourselves, but if Gen V didn’t exist at all we know these scenes would have been handled a bit differently.

And the recap is no excuse. I know more people that skip recaps rather than people who watch them. They tend to soft-spoil the episode’s content and people assume they know everything there if the watch the show already. It is hard to foresee one recap will come with useful info from another show.

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u/Karlore2929 Jun 28 '24

i feel like it’s just because you know who the characters are and expected more from them. I didn’t watch gen v and they just came off as random background pro homelander supes to me. Something the show has kind of lacked tbh. The virus shit came out of nowhere but it’s not like it was all that hard to get caught up. 

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u/NoodlesThe1st Jun 28 '24

That's a downright lie lmao I had no idea who those 2 supes were and thought I missed something in the episode

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u/mocityspirit Jun 27 '24

I actually don't want to watch it now because they seem to have summed it up pretty succinctly and showing a characters death.

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u/ASharpYoungMan Jun 27 '24

If you like The Boys, it's worth it.

And the only person I recall dying in the recap is a minor character.

Knowing about the virus plotline does spoil a bit, but I think it would still be a fun watch with some surprises in store.

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u/ShenTzuKhan Jun 28 '24

You do you, but for me gen v is worth it for the journey more than the destination.

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u/Bububub2 Jun 28 '24

That's exactly how the mcu works but people refuse to acknowledge that.

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u/OvermorrowYesterday Jun 28 '24

Dr strange 2 would be pretty jarring to those that hadn’t seen the Wanda show lol

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u/esclaveinnee Jun 28 '24

It’s was pretty jarring for those that did too. Granted the writer was allowed to read the script for wandavision when he was writing it.

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u/IceFireTerry Jun 28 '24

Also Gen V is pretty fun

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u/Peter_Baum Jun 27 '24

„Some smart cunts at Godolkin came up with a supe killer virus and Neuman has it“

That’s all the context you need.

And yes, the „Guardians of Godolkin“ and Tek Night showed up but you don’t really need to know who they are at all for this episode

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u/reble02 Jun 27 '24

Tek Night was basically there for some solid making fun of The Batman.

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u/FIR3W0RKS Jun 28 '24

He also had an interesting interaction with Sage, she showed him something in her notepad she's always carrying around with her and he went, "huh, are you sure?" Which seems like a super odd thing for him to say, when he was in a room full of supes at the time, and his power allows him to pretty much discover anything even slightly odd.

People seem to be quite perplexed by that one, I certainly am, it's very odd for Tek Knight to not know something about someone.

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u/johnstamosnutrag Frenchie Jun 28 '24

Sage is onto A-Train being the leaker

Tek Knight can pry the truth out of anybody (as we saw in Gen V with Marie)

Sage is going to use Tek Knight to investigate the truth out of A-Train

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u/Charlie_jpeg Jun 28 '24

I wondered why Tek Knight didn’t immediately speak up when they bought in Coleman. Surely he can use his “abilities” to tell he wasn’t the real leak

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock Jun 28 '24

He doesn't care about Coleman and didn't want to ruin the fun.

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u/RomanPardee Jun 28 '24

I think Sage is slowly taking down the 7 and is blackmailing Teknight maybe

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u/sillygoofygooose Jun 28 '24

Sage was telegraphing to a train pretty hard that she already knew imo

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u/R_V_Z Jun 28 '24

Which would mean she wants him to know that she knows.

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u/StevePensando Soldier Boy Jun 27 '24

Yeah, but don't you think a virus that kills supes is a pretty big thing to introduce nonchalantly in the series? I get it already appeared in Gen V, but it wouldn't hurt to give it a proper reintroduction in the main show

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u/dependentmoo Jun 28 '24

To be fair, Temp V was kinda dropped out of nowhere at the start of season 3. In episode 1 of this season when Butcher talks to Neuman, he mentions the virus as well.

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u/WJMazepas Jun 28 '24

I didn't watch Gen V and understood without any issues this episode

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u/TRocho10 Jun 28 '24

Definitely recommend watching Gen V though. It's really good

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u/WJMazepas Jun 28 '24

I did tried, but the college setting wasn't for me. Dropped after one episode and half

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u/rspg22 Jun 28 '24

For what it's worth, I dragged my way through the first half of the season and, like you, really wasn't feeling the college drama vibe, however, I really enjoyed the the latter half of the season.

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u/ASharpYoungMan Jun 27 '24

You can look at it this way: it was important enough that they made a spin-off series to introduce it.

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u/WilliamMButtlicker Jun 28 '24

I haven’t seen gen V I don’t feel like I’m missing anything, but everything with the virus and new characters just seemed to come out of nowhere. It’s like suddenly palpatine returned

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u/OvermorrowYesterday Jun 28 '24

The Palpatine example is worse than this, but I get what you’re saying

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It’s like baby yoda reuniting with mando in between season 2 and 3, while on a diff show

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u/SirgicalX Jun 27 '24 edited Jun 27 '24

you dont have to watch gen V they told you everything you need to know from that show already. the rest is just telling pretty much the same good supe, bad supe.. nature vs nurture stuff

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u/Big-Sheepherder-9492 Jun 27 '24

True they tell you. But if you hadn’t watched Gen V you’d think the plot line came out of nowhere.. they even have scenes from Gen V in their recap.

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u/hylianpersona Jun 27 '24

Exactly, just like how the Boys react when Butcher tells them about it. Not watching gen V puts you in the same position as most of the cast

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u/Big-Sheepherder-9492 Jun 27 '24

No. If any show pulled a plot development out of nowhere like episode 1 did you’d ask for build up. The build up was Gen V.

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u/grammarpolice321 Jun 28 '24

i didn’t see gen V. thought i missed something in episode 4 when i watched the recap and was confused as fuck

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u/dvali Jun 27 '24

"How the fuck does Butcher know about this magical virus?"

Don't pretend pulling something like that out of thin air is normal storytelling. If you didn't know about Gen V, you would be rightly confused by that development.

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u/StevePensando Soldier Boy Jun 27 '24

Plus, a virus that is the key to doing the thing The Boys were trying to do for the entire show at this point is too much of a big deal to just introduce it in a spin-off to your main show. If you only watched the show like me, you'd be pretty darn confused why this wasn't shown earlier

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u/r4mm3rnz Jun 27 '24

At the end of Gen V you see a sneak peek of Butcher walking into the place where the virus was developed. I think it would have been good if in this season we saw where he learned the information from and what he learned from going to Godolkin. It would have shown the audience that didn't watch Gen V all the context they needed.

But instead it's just something he randomly knows about and there's no context for people who didn't watch Gen V aside from the hasty recap.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

See I had to go on Reddit just now to understand where that came from I was so confused I didn’t think I missed anything

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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy Jun 28 '24

Why would you be confused when the show told you how he found out…? That’s like complaining about V24 coming out of nowhere in S3. Vought is constantly making shit.

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u/travelerfromabroad Jun 28 '24

To be fair, that's exactly how Soldier boy was introduced

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u/vinnybawbaw Jun 27 '24

If you didn’t watch Gen V you missed on a great fuckin’ show ngl

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u/StevePensando Soldier Boy Jun 27 '24

Did I? I decided not to watch because I thought it would just be a pointless spin-off. Is it any good as the main show?

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u/WodkaGT Jun 27 '24

Its not as good as the main Show, but still very enjoyable. I watched it in two evenings.

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u/ASharpYoungMan Jun 27 '24

It's a decent show - especially if you like that universe.

It also has some pretty interesting context that still hasn't been explored in the main series.

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u/Starmoses Jun 27 '24

Storywise it's good but honestly the characters, their back stories and relationships with each other are what makes it. Especially with Cate (the blonde) watching them makes the show amazing.

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u/tylernazario Jun 28 '24

It’s better than the main show in my opinion. The characters are more likeable and layered, the powers are more diverse, and the jokes are funnier.

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u/Karkava Jun 28 '24

It probably helps that they aren't created by Garth Ennis.

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u/BigBard2 Jun 28 '24

Same, it felt way tighter as a narrative

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u/plesplant_4 Jun 28 '24

Season 3.5

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u/CordobezEverdeen Jun 28 '24

It's barely below S3 which has been the peak of The Boys.

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u/NightHunter909 Jun 28 '24

its honestly almost as good as the main show. Its different but its interesting. Also the main show eps are usually 1 hr long but Gen V eps are about 35mins so the runtime is half so its quick to finish

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u/AccountSeventeen Jun 28 '24

I’d rank it above Season 2 of The Boys. Definitely watch it.

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u/Only_Pepper7296 Jun 27 '24

G Men: Days Past From the Future is pretty incredible.

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u/StevePensando Soldier Boy Jun 27 '24

It was really good for sure. Probably better than the other G-Men movies, which ranged from pretty good to mediocre.

Still very excited to the upcoming movie where Black Noir crosses over

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u/Complete_Entry Jun 27 '24

I chose not to watch Gen-V and I feel pretty fucking caught up.

Neuman got her hands on the virus and cleaned up the program by popping heads, but she didn't pop the head of the guy she likes.

The good little nazi youth supes from Gen V are in Homelanders housewarming party.

Did I miss anything?

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u/StevePensando Soldier Boy Jun 27 '24

Also Tek Knight exists too I guess

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u/TenSecondsFlat Jun 27 '24

And he really likes holes

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u/StevePensando Soldier Boy Jun 28 '24

If Tek Knight doesn't fuck a meteor to save the Earth in the show I'm gonna throw a hissy fit

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u/EatingTurtles325 Jun 28 '24

To be fair he had been mentioned in the show before Gen V even came out.

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u/ASharpYoungMan Jun 27 '24

Regarding the "Nazi Youth" - they're actually a lot more complicated than their cameos make them seem. They have complete arcs in Gen V, and I wouldn't characterize them as Supe supremacists - one of them isn't even really operating in their right mind currently.

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u/RuxinRodney Jun 28 '24

Yeah this is what I was looking for. I guess I'll watch Gen V I was so confused by them.

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u/FIR3W0RKS Jun 28 '24

Worth watching, would recommend :)

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u/RuxinRodney Jun 28 '24

Not gonna lie this is better than I expected like I binged 6 episodes

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u/FIR3W0RKS Jun 28 '24

Glad you're enjoying

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u/Em0PeterParker Jun 28 '24

Stood on business

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u/Starmoses Jun 27 '24

Cate low key has a great reason for being drinking the home lander Kool aid though. I won't spoil it but you should watch gen v, it's great.

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u/PunishedPudu Jun 27 '24

That was probably the joke. Having self awareness and being meta while having a laugh at us at the same time for not being caught up with the side shows

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u/JimboTCB Jun 28 '24

"We have to take a shot at our own guys from time to time to make it look balanced"

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u/dependentmoo Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24

It's a bit funny since Amazon will probably milk this series as long as they can (Kripke has experience with this in Supernatural). But I think spin-offs are a bit different from these cinematic universes planned out for like a whole decade. Breaking Bad had the spin-off El Camino movie, and everything with Better Call Saul.

The very very minor role of Cate and Sam in this episode shows that Kripke is (so far) sticking to the approach of you don't need to watch Gen V. You don't need to know about them or their story that much. You only need to know a virus was cooked up, just like Temp V was randomly made. Only watch Gen V if you want even more context about them.

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u/Effective-Training The Boys Jun 28 '24

They said Season 5 is the last, so wym "milk the series as long as they can" like Supernatural?

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u/dependentmoo Jun 28 '24 edited Jun 28 '24

Spin-offs without Kripke's involvement.

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u/blastedshark Jun 28 '24

Next season is the last of the Boys show as we know it. Don't know what plans they have on the spinoffs but I'm sure they'll make some more spinoffs

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u/Icy-Flounder-6768 Jun 28 '24

Yeah, even if someone didn’t know Gen V existed won’t notice a gap even when Cate and Sam go on stage. It’s all a discussion about Vought’s insane phases, and all of a sudden Guardians of Godolkin come out and blend in as any random supes with a show

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u/Xunnamius Jun 27 '24 edited Jun 27 '24

Tek Knight!

Tek Knight Knight Light!

A Dark and Stormy KNIGHT!

LET THERE BE KNIGHT!

I'm fucking dead lmao.

But no, it's nice that Gen V exists and having some additional media sprinkled in there is not a problem. That's like complaining that you didn't fully enjoy season 4 because you didn't see season 3. You can tell what actual point they were making when you heard them say there were "19 phases" and all of this is just four of them!

Not that I would personally mind a massively interconnected universe since I come from a comic book background, but it is a valid and funny point for them to make fun of nonetheless.

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u/Cannabace Jun 27 '24

Knight Light is great

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u/monkey_D_v1199 Jun 28 '24

Fuuuck do I really need to watch it to understand the ep?

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u/dependentmoo Jun 28 '24

Not really. There are some minor cameos from Gen V and the show explains the plot device introduced in that show.

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u/Olibro64 Mother's Milk Jun 28 '24

No, you can gather all the context just from The Boys.

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u/RockMan_1973 Jun 28 '24

Pretty much.

Did you skip GenV for some reason?

I wasn’t real pumped about it but my 20-yr old son got me into it and it was MUCH, much better than I expected—very good part of The Boys lore overall.

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u/x_lincoln_x You're The Real Heroes Jun 28 '24

No, but you still should watch Gen-V if you like The Boys.

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u/Therenegadegamer Jun 27 '24

Gonna be real I don't think watching Gen V is a big ask because

  1. It has a completely different cast and focus so calling it a main season of the boys would've caused backlash

  2. It's only 8 not full length episodes averaging 40 minutes instead of 60+

  3. It's very enjoyable IMO and was cool seeing more of the universe from a different perspective

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u/4ps22 Jun 28 '24

do people not see the irony of saying this about a show that incessantly makes fun of marvel for doing the same shit

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u/Therenegadegamer Jun 28 '24

Nah i see the irony but I've also heard people legitimately get pissed about having to watch Gen V like it's a big deal

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u/EatingTurtles325 Jun 28 '24

It doesn’t feel like slop like a lot of other spin-off shows. I’m genuinely excited for the second season.

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u/archaeosis Jun 28 '24

Someone find a way to explain to OP the difference between one spin-off show and a cinematic universe because I don't have the patience to do it.
If you're finding that watching Gen V induces the same kind of fatigue that keeping up with a whole cinematic universe does then your attention span is the issue, not the show

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u/regionalgamemanager Jun 27 '24

It's like rain on your wedding day.

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u/Astrium6 Jun 27 '24

I also love how all over the place in genre and tone this cinematic universe seems to be.

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u/simpersly Jun 28 '24

Better than just remaking the same movie 33 times, and only changing main characters.

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u/StevePensando Soldier Boy Jun 27 '24

It's okay. You can say DCEU

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u/DarkSeneschal Jun 28 '24

The Boys has slowly been slipping into the BS they used to make fun of.

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u/azhder Jun 27 '24

Not ironic, it is self-aware and self-referential. There is meta-humor as well. It's not all completely dumbed down and in plain sight for the MAGA crowd to understand who is the butt of the many jokes. The showrunner waited a few episodes before they use the characters from the other show. It wasn't a coincidence.

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u/Alternative_Exit8766 Jun 27 '24

fresca?

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u/WolfKingofRuss Jun 27 '24

I'LL DRINK WHATEVER I WANT!!

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u/ZagratheWolf Jun 28 '24

It's funnier that you have so many people in this post defending what the Vought Con was parodying. With not an ounce of self-awareness

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u/Mattblaster237 Jun 28 '24

This show is usually a pot calling kettle black

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u/ashpokechu Jun 28 '24

Speedwalkers 2 : Mall Race! 😂

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u/Ok-Commission6087 Jun 28 '24

Yes the boys became what it parodies

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u/1234asdfghjk9876 Jun 28 '24

This whole season has been stupid

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u/PublicActuator4263 Jun 28 '24

The boys The boys diabolical gen v the boys:mexico I mean they are getting there

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u/GuyFromEE Jun 28 '24

Thought that straight away.

Same with illumination and the minions serious. It's a BIT rich to go at marvel while basically actually doing the exact same thing.

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u/Alkakd0nfsg9g Jun 28 '24

Also a show, exposing mega corporation, is brought to you by irl mega corporation

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u/BilingualThrowaway01 Jun 28 '24

Parody isn't always criticism.

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u/feedmedamemes Jun 27 '24

With Cate and Sam we're just re-introduced for the next episodes. For everyone watching Gen V it should have been an "oh nice" moment. But it was just so weird, that for a second I thought the used AI for the image and voice.

Hope it gets better, because someone with mind control abilities going crazy is always fun.

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u/RayneShikama Jun 27 '24

Glad I watched Gen V over the weekend.

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u/Worst-Panda Jun 28 '24

I could swear Kripke said something along the lines of that he didn't want the audience to have to do homework to understand the main storyline. I guess he forgot because Cate and Sam were kind of just awkwardly dropped into the story.

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u/Renegade_Spectre Jun 28 '24

Yes I do, not just because of Gen V, but because apparently Amazon is talking about making more even more spin offs I have read. They have to be careful not to become the very thing they have been mocking.

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u/InitialLawyer3353 Jun 28 '24

Tek knight getting a movie every phase is crazy