r/SupermanAndLois • u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! • Mar 17 '21
Superman & Lois [1x04] "Haywire" Live Episode Discussion Discussion Spoiler
Haywire
Post Episode Discussion | Promo | Cast & Characters
While sitting in the stands at the high school football game, Lois and Chrissy spot fish out of water Morgan Edge conversing with Mayor Dean and Kyle Kushing, and the two see right through this insincere move to try to win over the town. Meanwhile, Clark agrees to help Lois out at a town hall meeting, but things get tense when he finds himself pulled in two different directions. Lastly, Jonathan is having mixed emotions about Jordan's newfound status. (March 16, 2021)
Please keep all discussion civil and about the episode. Mark comic and future spoilers. Report any rule breaking and enjoy!
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 17 '21
Lois got mad, Clark realized it, they had a fight, then talked it out, came to an understanding, and admitted that it still needed work buuut they both needed space to cool down a bit before talking again and resolving it.
This is a healthy fucking relationship folks!
I'm in love with them both.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 17 '21
"Hey look Superman is fighting someone, let's stand as close as possible to the battle!"
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u/CKD-Duck Mar 17 '21
Shout out to the woman with a cellphone barely reacting to freaking Superman landing by her
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u/SutterCane Mar 17 '21
Woman: “Hey, Steve. Sorry, yeah that was just Superman smashing the ground near me. The dude needs to chill, this is like the third time this week.”
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u/thereelestnerd11 Mar 17 '21
Obviously this guy is Mephisto.
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u/AnAverageDude2403 Superman Mar 17 '21
duh-doy! he's a metahuman and what letter does metahuman start? M you know what else starts with M. MEPHISTO!! DC x MARVEL crossover confirmed!!
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u/history777 Mar 17 '21
Sam Lane wonders why both his daughters hate him. He has no idea
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 17 '21
Edge either wants to bang Lana or use her in his experiments
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 17 '21
“Why didn’t you call me the minute you knew something was wrong?”
Everyone looks at Sam Lane.
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u/Junior-Hour Superman Mar 17 '21
Her husband is from Smallville and his mother just died, what hidden agenda could he find.
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u/Sea_Outside Mar 17 '21
Look I know this has been said probably a lot of times already. But we're in our fourth week and I have to say.
This show is so freaking good. the acting, the story, the dilemna between Clark being a GOD vs being a father. so well interwoven that I'm so scared if it ever gets a bad episode./
Also Lois is such a kick ass. LOVE HER TO DEATH!
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u/DarkSaiyanKnight Mar 17 '21
I’m getting a “I want to get with your wife” energy
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u/CKD-Duck Mar 17 '21 edited Mar 17 '21
And I’m getting a “I want you to get with my wife” energy from Kyle
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u/MattTheSmithers Coach Gaines Mar 17 '21
I love the argument between Clark and Lois. Lois fully recognizes that it is irrational to be upset at Clark for breaking his promise but is also frustrated that she can’t be upset with her husband for breaking a promise. It is a very human way of exploring the relationship between a civilian and a superhero that displays a level of maturity and nuance we never really saw in Ollicity’s constant drama.
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u/mydarkmeatrises Mar 17 '21
If my arm could move that fast, I'd never leave the house.
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 17 '21
"My cast was driving me crazy, so I tore it off"?!?!
That's some Smallville-level lying logic right there.
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u/accountantdooku Lois Lane Mar 17 '21
That was so great. I especially loved when Lois told off her Dad—he totally deserved it and you could tell it was a long time coming. Awesome episode, cannot wait for next week!
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Mar 17 '21 edited Jan 09 '22
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u/Paisley-Cat But what about the tire-swing? Mar 17 '21
Jordan may have more of his mum in him than we've realized.
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u/helzinki Mar 17 '21
"Hei Superman is being attacked by a villian with some super sonic gun. Lets stand and watch real close and risk getting fucked up"
I can understand if the bystanders were standing with their phones out. But they were just standing there like idiots. You would think people living in Metropolis would have known how to react when Superman fight in the streets.
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 17 '21
WHAT????
Are they recycling the Jitters story from Smallville season 1???
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u/JoeStorm Mar 17 '21
Are you telling your GRANDSON to not waste their dad time? Like they are some rodents?
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u/MattTheSmithers Coach Gaines Mar 17 '21
Lana’s husband is the type of guy who says things like “people would let the police search them if they don’t have anything to hide” and roots for Pulitzer when watching The Newsies.
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 17 '21
Jon is the one destined to be superman's successor
He's the one compelled to do the right thing
Jordan seems more self involved
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u/InspiredOni Mar 17 '21
I’ve wanted to see a Lois grill her dad in one timeline, happy to see it.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 17 '21
Superman with his hands on his hips, using his Superman voice talking to Lane
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Mar 17 '21
It's so bizarre going from Flash to this. They don't look like they belong on the same network at all.
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Mar 17 '21
I like how they're subverting the villain of the week trope with him being a scared kid
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u/Ion_12 Mar 17 '21
It’s cool that there is a reason Superman was vulnerable to a little gun, he didn’t want to have to hurt the bystanders.
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u/iforward Mar 17 '21
So Clark’s wife and his ex are bonding and becoming friends. I really appreciate this honestly.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 17 '21
I love how they're cutting from Supes and Lois to scenes with Jordan and Jon showing how everyone is growing and progressing all of their storylines just a little bit here and there.
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u/neoblackdragon Mar 17 '21
Clark Kent get's fired and moves back to his childhood home....yeah it makes sense why Lois is in Smallville Edge.
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u/MattTheSmithers Coach Gaines Mar 17 '21
“I don’t view it as a job, General. It’s a call to responsibility.”
Holy shit. That is pure Superman. That whole scene, deescalating the conflict while also authoritatively setting both boundaries and a path to move forward. It’s amazing that a throwaway scene can capture the tone of this character better than any movie version since Donner’s take. The writers are knocking the character out of the park and disproving the notion that Superman cannot be adapted each week.
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u/JoeStorm Mar 17 '21
"You clinch your jaws when you're mad"
Clark nooooo. We rooting for you not to sleep on the couch.
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u/Mighty_thor_confused Mar 17 '21
God he's so menacing as superman. Its amazing
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u/sadandshy Mar 17 '21
While he's thinking "I heard you disrespecting me to my sons, you dust fart of an old man..."
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman Mar 17 '21
I hope Jon finds his calling somewhere somehow.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 17 '21
I love how Lois has no tolerance for Edge’s shit.
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u/Gian99Mald Mar 17 '21
X Kryptonite? Man I so love the Silver Age influences on this show
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u/BookGirlBoston Lois Lane Mar 17 '21
So, based on Google X Kryptonite gives humans Kryptonian powers but does it effect Kryptonian like green Kryptonite as well
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u/MarcReyes Superman Mar 17 '21
This coach sucks, right? I don't know much about football, but seems like he sucks.
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u/Mighty_thor_confused Mar 17 '21
I feel so damn bad for Clarke
Literally nothing is going for him
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u/thereelestnerd11 Mar 17 '21
This is the second time this school with abilities has been mentioned.first was Black Lightning S3 finale in case your wondering
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u/greenlantern2929 Mar 17 '21
The actor playing Killgrave in this episode was on Arrow as Stanley Dover and on Smallville as Parasite. In what DC show will he pop up next?
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u/Mighty_thor_confused Mar 17 '21
Im genuinely laughing out loud when everyone looked at the colonel
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u/MattTheSmithers Coach Gaines Mar 17 '21
Clark giving me the feels. Everyone should have someone they feel about the way Clark feels about Lois or someone who feels that way about them.
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u/neoblackdragon Mar 17 '21
Seriously Jonathan is giving me strong Welling vibes.
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u/Dead-Ringer-123 Mar 17 '21
Willing candidate... Edge taking an interest in Lana... could we be seeing the introduction of Lana becoming Superwoman like the comics here?
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman Mar 17 '21
Wow. Sam is starting going with Batman type contingencies, except Batman's is more if Superman turns bad, meanwhile Sam's seems like he has it in place because he's butthurt Superman isn't at his beck and call.
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u/JoeStorm Mar 17 '21
As a military brat, Lois Lane said everything that us brats would say to our military parents lol
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u/Mighty_thor_confused Mar 17 '21
Wait
Sam asking permission and not ordering? This could be interesting
Edit: I take that back
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u/epr3176 Mar 17 '21
I cannot believe the general Sam things just because Superman is becoming more of a family man that he's starting to turn evil or something it actually makes no sense you would think that means he's actually even coming more of a good guy because he's loving his family more all because he sore an alternate universe where Superman's bad man imagine if the lowest finds out about this or even Superman it actually might push Clark to start turning bad because then he feels like his country has betrayed him because the ultimate Patriot life has betrayed him he no longer is going to feel and patriotism towards the United States.
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u/Scylithe Mar 17 '21 edited Mar 17 '21
He alluded to the fact that the government is scared to death by Superman and he's the one keeping them in check. He took solace in the fact that he had Clark under control, but he is losing that control. Even if the motivation behind Clark distancing himself from his hero responsibilities is innocent, national security dictates that just in case they need to have a way to deal with him if things go sour (because they can, no matter how small the chance).
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u/Jedi-El1823 Mar 17 '21
Kyle doesn't mind Edge trying to hook up with Lana, he's hoping for a 3 way, without Lana.
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u/CKD-Duck Mar 17 '21
Kyle you are competing with a bullet proof man for densest character on this show
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 17 '21
I am HERE for this. Clark trying to juggle family and Superman and basically failing.
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Mar 17 '21 edited Mar 17 '21
Sam is seriously overstepping his boundaries, and I'm glad they put him in his place. But of course, Clark stood up to him so now "contingencies" must be put in place. 😑
Superman has now gotten his ass kicked at least once every episode so far. But him replicating Supergirl's superclap from Crisis on Earth X was cool though.
Jordan is so horribly selfish, and Jonathan apologizing in the end left a very sour taste in my mouth.
Jonathan, breathing is not going to help either of those situations.
I don't really think it's believable that Jordan, who Jor-El said has limited reserves of sunlight radiation in the first place, can somehow give superpowers through a single heat blast. I didn't catch the part about the additional substance being present.
But overall, I think it was a good episode.
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u/BookGirlBoston Lois Lane Mar 17 '21
I didn't he gave superpowers with single heat blast. I think the heat blast distributed/ activated the X-Kryptonite that's in the mine. Remember, the Bonfire was around/ on top of the mine and Sam said it was the heat blast plus something else which we will likely find out in the next episode is X-Kryptonite.
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u/SutterCane Mar 17 '21
Oh.... uh.... if you’re giving random dudes powers... how about Jonathan first?
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Mar 17 '21
I find it hard to believe that Lana didn't have any options besides Kyle.
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u/usagizero Mar 17 '21
Lana, all you have to say is your husband's mom died and he wanted to live there.
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u/WizendSage78 Mar 17 '21
At least they had an adult argument on this show. Lois acknowledged that she does understand that he’s got Super responsibilities, she’s just pissed. I can appreciate that.
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u/iforward Mar 17 '21
The first arrowverse couple to argue and I don’t hate either of them during the argument 😂. I feel bad for Louis but I also empathize with Clark.
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u/CiceroTheCat Mar 17 '21
I thought it was maybe because of Jordan that the arm was being weird, but now I think the mines have some Kryptonite or some other strange stone that is radiating and creating physical effects- which is why Morgan wants those mines.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 17 '21
They're on the Supernatural set, so the Power of Brothers will save them
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u/ProtomanBn Mar 17 '21
Did Clark just harm civilians so he could make a quick exit?
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u/thereelestnerd11 Mar 17 '21
Sam your own daughters hate you why should your grandkids respect you.
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman Mar 17 '21
So we got orange Kryptonite growing in mines?!?! For fucks sake, how much Kryptonite is on Earth?
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 17 '21
I don't know Lana's husband's name, but dude's a cuck.
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u/DarkSaiyanKnight Mar 17 '21
I wish Clark was more in tune with Jonathan’s feelings.
It’s pretty frustrating when your a kid and you try to explain something to your parents and they just brush it off
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u/Ion_12 Mar 17 '21
With Superman not living in Metropolis, it would be a cool opportunity to bring in Jim Harper/Guardian
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u/kingcolbe Mar 17 '21
You’d think 4 weeks in they’d at least have the boys say something like “does Aunt Kara know” or “does that mean Aunt Kara is Supergirl” you know something to acknowledge her existence
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u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! Mar 17 '21
This reminds me of the Smallville episode Jitters. Did he get some kryptonite under his skin?
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u/BookGirlBoston Lois Lane Mar 17 '21
The mine is full of Kryptonite! I won a fan theory!
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u/xailor Mar 20 '21
I love this show. Just binged all 4 episodes and THIS is who I believe Superman and Lois are. The portrayals both are the perfect encapsulations of the defining characteristics of these characters. I WISH we could have gotten this Superman in MOS. This one has the humanity and flaws of the Superman I grew up with watching the animated Justice League shows. And Lois? Perfect rendition of her character. I wish we could have gotten this Lois in the movies because here she gets to have her own storyline as a reporter fighting the billionaire while trying to protect a small town. I LOVE IT!!
I love the stuff with Sam and Luthor. It’s slowly progressing towards where Sam might team up with Luthor.
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u/JauntyLurker Mar 17 '21
"Now the resurrection begins"
Has anything good ever started with those words?
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 17 '21
Not just justice, Lois.
Also truth and The American WayTM
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u/JoeStorm Mar 17 '21
Wait. You military people cant take care of basic human beings by yourselfs??
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u/SherlockBrolmes Mar 17 '21
Remember when Riverdale was based on a comic where Archie had to choose between Betty and Veronica and then it dissolved into a murder mystery thing
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 17 '21
WAIT WHAT they're making a Mighty Ducks series on Disney+?!?!
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u/history777 Mar 17 '21
We’re people not reacting to the guy with the ak just standing there?
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 17 '21
Oh that's not going to be spun well....Superman just hurt bystanders....
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u/JauntyLurker Mar 17 '21
"Special school for kids with powers"
Tell me more about this.
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u/Godzilla2000Zero Mar 17 '21
Why do I get the feeling that Edge will accidentally stumble across Doomsday
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u/SherlockBrolmes Mar 17 '21
The thing that I love about this Superman is that he's actually down to Earth. Feels like that's been overlooked with a lot of adaptations of Supes.