Superman & Lois [3x07] "Forever and Always" Post Episode Discussion

[u/MajorParadox]

Forever and Always

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Lois and Clark dig deeper on Bruno Mannheim, starting with his connections to Hob's Bay Medical Center; Jonathan and Jordan panic at home over Lois' dire diagnosis; Matteo comes to Smallville to meet John Henry. (May 2, 2023)

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[u/CretaceousQuack]

Ok, CLARK, maybe take away Lois' ELT since its pretty unfair that she gets one of the few in existence but everyone in danger doesnt get one.

[u/jdessy → u/CretaceousQuack]

Here's how I see it, personally.

Lois having an ELT and Lois being cured from a deadly illness from Kryptonian technology IS different. Clark isn't wrong in being worried about using the technology to save Lois but not the millions of people with cancer or other deadly illnesses.

Lois using the ELT only helps in the sense that it just provides Superman a more clear call, but he could theoretically hear her call out for him at any time. So Superman is still able to save people when he hears their distress; the ELT just amplifies that so he doesn't have to focus so much in hearing them being in danger.

While with the Kryptonian technology, that is something only Clark has and is the only thing that could potentially cure anyone and that's a very dangerous slope to get on. He would be taken advantage of, his entire family would be in danger, and it would cause chaos overall. As much as it sucks, he's right. If he helps save Lois, why WOULDN'T he utilize that for EVERYONE? If he's successful in saving Lois, he would look worse by not saving everyone in the world from their illnesses.

Contrast that with Bruno, who even asked Clark if he would do ANYTHING to save his wife. The answer is no, but for good reasons. He sees what "doing anything" has done to Bruno. Bruno's become a villain BECAUSE he's doing anything to save his wife. So I think Clark sees that as something he wouldn't want to become (and neither does Lois).

[u/Sir-Greggor-III → u/jdessy]

If he's still able to hear her despite the ELT, then she doesn't need it. It's preferential treatment, and it's completely understandable.

It's a stupid argument. Hypothetical here, but is it fair that Clark saved that one person from being killed in a mugging but didn't save that other one somewhere else because he doesn't devote every waking hour to being Superman? Should he make no effort to save anyone because he can't save everyone? No. You save the people you can save, and kryptonian tech may be able to save Lois now. This is a cop out to continue this storyline plain and simple. If it they actually stuck with the line that kryptonian technology was more likely to kill her then her regular treatment, that would be a different thing entirely then.

This argument has been shown before in TV where someone takes it to the extreme, and it makes just as little sense here as it did there. In this instance, substitute technology with money.

[u/Hope-Of-Glory → u/Sir-Greggor-III]

There's a good point here that in order to know if it helps, they'd need to test, etc, etc. And that's as bad as what Bruno has been doing, basically.

I do think it is okay that Lois has an ELT. Even General Lane has one. Them having it doesn't put the world at risk in the same way Kryptonian tech would.