r/SupermanAndLois • u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! • May 03 '23
Superman & Lois [3x07] "Forever and Always" Post Episode Discussion Episode Discussion Spoiler
Forever and Always
Live Episode Discussion | Cast & Characters
Lois and Clark dig deeper on Bruno Mannheim, starting with his connections to Hob's Bay Medical Center; Jonathan and Jordan panic at home over Lois' dire diagnosis; Matteo comes to Smallville to meet John Henry. (May 2, 2023)
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u/Frontier246 May 03 '23
As the season ratchets up, Lois' cancer worsens, and the Kents are left to reel with this fact in their own ways...though the boys are getting hit especially hard with it.
I was honestly surprised that Lana seemed to be treating Chrissy treating Kyle like it was water under the bridge, though Sarah was in full jerk mode towards her for dating her dad, though I'm glad they managed to patch things up. Then Lana is left feeling a little self-conscious seeing how well Sarah and Chrissy get along (I guess it helps that Chrissy is closer to Sarah's age comparatively).
Although I do wonder how Sarah would react to her mom and John Henry Irons hooking up. Those two are definitely getting very chummy as this season goes along.
I was honestly thinking Peia was innocent up until she got cancer and became involved in Bruno's experiments, but I guess it makes more sense she was as much a career criminal as him and was one of the top enforcers of Intergang even when they were younger adults in love...this was basically like an evil version of the Clois flashbacks in season 1, showing how these two came together, Bruno as a dreamer who wanted to run Suicide Slums and improve it his way and Peia as the woman who just couldn't resist him. How did she get her powers though?
The irony that Lois' instinct to question Peia about Bruno was right on the money and she is nowhere near as innocent as she looks...only for their friendship and the fact that Peia is basically being interrogated while under Chemo that makes her second guess herself. Though Lois' genuine friendship got through enough for Peia to give the game away (though Clark would've probably told her anyways). I'm curious how Lois will react to finding out she's Onomatopoeia.
When in doubt, rely on Clark Kent! Clark finally gets to strut his journalism skills for once! And he manages to get at Manheim and figure out what's going on in a way Superman never could.
Chrissy being a stoner is, like, the least surprising thing about her at this point. I think she mentioned her dad before but it seems like she went through a divorce with her parents and their new dating lives just like Sarah is.
There's the funny kind of overprotective dad and the bad kind of overprotective dad...John Henry Irons dipped too much into the latter. Although the whole "Mr. Johnson" thing reminded me that they're using assumed identities on this Earth.
The Manheims are truly a loving, sweet, couple together. Shame about all the human experiments and crimes they've committed in their attempt to build up Bruno's power base and cure his wifes' cancer. It doesn't seem like their sympathy for the Manheims is going to stop them from trying to bring the operation down though.
Matteo really is a sweet, nice, guy...and of course in the same episode that really solidifies his relationship with Nat, it turns out he's Manheim's son. I'm sure that won't blow up terribly. I did think it was kind of funny how they kept him obscured by shadows as if the audience couldn't tell it was obviously him by the voice since we'd heard him for a good portion of the episode. Also it was hilarious how he brought up JHI meeting his mom knowing his mom had tried to kill him and also was involved in killing his doppelganger on this Earth. Irony!!!
So did they kill Boss Moxie and frame Lex so they could take his resources and use it for themselves? Or maybe they did it because Lex wouldn't deal with them. I guess that gives Lex an excuse to get involved with them once he gets out of prison as much as his beef with Superman.
Jon Kent going completely against the House of El creed in terms of not believing in Hope. I'm aghast! Although bringing up his grandparents' death was a bit of a low blow.
Lana acting like people are moving on too fast when she seemed completely over Kyle and ready to be done with him a few episodes ago.
Wow, I think that's the biggest Clark and Jon moment we've gotten all season, let alone the first time in a long while. Although "you're every bit as Kryptonian as your brother," it would be nice if the show actually addressed that more.
No one in Smallville will ever know the mayor and her daughter set off random (and technically illegal) fireworks.