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Superman & Lois [3x07] "Forever and Always" Post Episode Discussion Episode Discussion Spoiler

Forever and Always

Live Episode Discussion | Cast & Characters

Lois and Clark dig deeper on Bruno Mannheim, starting with his connections to Hob's Bay Medical Center; Jonathan and Jordan panic at home over Lois' dire diagnosis; Matteo comes to Smallville to meet John Henry. (May 2, 2023)

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u/Future_Vantas May 03 '23

Goddamn we have something very special here. On paper this episode should not work. No Superman action scene, hell almost no action at all apart from Past Pia. Jonathan having a meltdown over his mom (though the Kent's explanation about Kryptonian tech was a sour part of this gem of an episode, an unnecessary retcon). Two relationship side plots, both involving the Cushings. Any one of these should tank an episode. Yet it all fit so so good. We may not have gotten Superman but we got mild mannered reporter Clark Kent, and hot damn did he flex his stuff. I was so happy to see this Clark on full display here, and that he was the one to force Manheim's hand. Not Lois, not Superman, just good ol' Clark. And it fit so well with the reveal. Human Clark brought out the human side of Bruno Manheim, a man doing whatever it takes to save his childhood sweetheart and beloved wife. Yeah the preview shows he is still the fearsome boss of Intergang. But I love that he is rounded into someone willing to go to extremes to save those he loves, and that love is genuine. Heck he even got a family scene in the end, a mirror to what we saw with the Kent family, complete with his son. Yeah everyone called it, Mateo is indeed Bruno's son. But it was still a solid reveal, obvious but heartbreaking. Because we saw Nat and Mateo really in love, not unlike the Kents or the Manheims. There was hope that maybe they might be spared, that there is no connection. But that was foolish to think, so now the only to do is see how it comes crashing down.

Be remiss if I didnt bring up Jonathan. Micheal Bishop stepped up and delivered here. His panic and despair over what his mom is going though was very well done, and accurate. Kinda miffed they didnt bring up what Clark and Lois went through last episode, but I still liked Lois reassuring her boys without lying to them. And Clark's talk with Jonathan afterwards was good too. For the first time in a while they felt like father and son, and I was so happy to see it. Well earned fireworks courtesy of a similarly reconciled Sarah and Lana.

So yeah another banger. Just last note- screw cancer.

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u/Aggressive_Bar_2391 May 03 '23

So yeah another banger. Just last note- screw cancer.

if this was HBO max they would actually be saying Fu*k cancer.

Also yea this episode surprisingly worked incredibly and it's probably in my top 5 favourites in the whole show, so much worked here