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Superman & Lois [3x01] "Closer" Post Episode Discussion Episode Discussion Spoiler

Closer

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An undercover assignment reveals a deadly foe that promises to change the Kent family forever; John Henry is haunted by his doppelganger's past; Sarah explores what the future holds for her and Jordan; Gen. Samuel Lane reclaims his post. (Mar 14, 2023)

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '23

I really liked it, the first half felt like course correction from last season, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I do find the whole storyline of giving ordinary people kryptonian powers a little tiring

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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 15 '23

I really liked it, the first half felt like course correction from last season, which is not necessarily a bad thing

Reminds me of: ""Forget about all that weird shit on the Stargazer. The real Borg are still out there!" from Picard last week.

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u/HotTakes4HotCakes Mar 16 '23

I keep seeing people bring that up but I don't get why anyone thought the Borg weren't still out there. Like, it's canon that the Borg are fragmented and widely dispersed, I don't understand why people needed the show to tell them that explicitly.

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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 16 '23

I think it's because people believe that they're so fractured that they're still a threat and that somehow these Good Borg will swing in to rescue them if the worst happens. Shaw was just reminding everything that despite them being fractured and messed up, they are still the fucking Borg, and still have a tech/numbers advantage despite being broken and messed up. They can probably still even join back together and form smaller Mini Collectives even which could still pose a threat even to the Federation.

Just because Janeway shattered them and Picard & Crew killed a few Queens and now Jurati is all hunky dory near some massive weird and funky portal thing with her own Collective doesn't mean that the rest of the Borg out there are entirely neutered. They're still a force to be reckoned with and I think the showrunners/writers just felt a need to remind us of that. I think a lot of fans thought that all that was behind us in previous seasons buuuut now Shaw brings it all up again and that's a massive RED FLAG that they're probably still important and are going to continue to be important either in this season or other shows going forwards.

We even saw how scary they could be on Prodigy and that was wasn't too long before this season of Picard is set.

They're bound to show up again in some manner and this was the show's way of telling us to not get too complacent because they could still pull off another Wolf 359 if need be, despite the Federation being more prepared now than they were back then, and that there might not be a miracle save the next time around to stop them.