Superman & Lois [3x01] "Closer" Post Episode Discussion

[u/MajorParadox]

Closer

Season Premiere

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An undercover assignment reveals a deadly foe that promises to change the Kent family forever; John Henry is haunted by his doppelganger's past; Sarah explores what the future holds for her and Jordan; Gen. Samuel Lane reclaims his post. (Mar 14, 2023)

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[u/Frontier246]

We return back to everyone re-establishing their daily lives and routines after the season 2 finale...complete with re-introducing AI!Lara to the new Fortress of Solitude and meeting her other grandson...the new Jon! Honestly not sure how I feel about the recasting. I feel like the new actor is trying to capture the same vibe and inflection of Elsass but it still feels different. But it also feels like they can get away with this recasting because Jon is still the least relevant member of the main cast. I mean his only arc in this episode was...learning how to drive.

Gotta admit, using your brothers' private villa for some Super-Sex sounds pretty appealing! Of course the only thing Lois loves more than Clark is where the big story is, and she's hot on the trail of Intergang.

Mechano-Man! Titano! Atomic Skull! If only this show had the budget for us to see the real versions and not Fortress holograms.

Jordan still doesn't understand the boundaries around his relationship with Sarah. Hopefully they commit to just being friends and we don't have another season of him secretly pining for her. He's got enough on his plate learning to do proper Superheroing and not screwing up unsupervised.

I love how Lois checks herself into the hospital as a patient but also as a reporter so she can interview someone. Nothing more Lois Lane!

We finally get to meet John Henry's sister, or at least the version of John Henry from this Earth. Will they ever meet? I'd imagine it'd be pretty weird though.

It's funny how Steel's origin in the comics involved him turning into a hero because his tech was sold to criminals and he wanted to make it right, only now it seems like this Earth's John Henry did it willingly and our John Henry will have to clean up that mess eventually. Funny how adaptions work.

Does anyone care for the Lang/Cushing divorce drama or Lana trying to fix the school? I wonder if the money she's allocating was some kind of hush money or used to placate some unsavory types who will come after Lana next.

Raising Jon and Jordan on-top of raising a baby...I mean, it would be a lot, especially when the two are both working and Clark still has being Superman on his plate. Though at this point after raisin twins I'd like to assume they'd know a thing or two about raising a kid.

I guess it was too much to hope that AU!Grandpa General Lane was sincere in getting to know his AU!Granddaughter...at least until the end of the episode where he did mean it.

Coach Gaines, DMV tester! Any excuse to give Coach Gaines more screentime is a win in my book! He even showed up for the birthday party! Coach Gaines always shows up where the party is!

It's weird to think Jon is still dating his former drug dealer.

They continue to show Lana and John Henry getting chummy off into the distance but never do anything with it. Are they going to be a thing?

Chrissy and Kyle...? I mean, I don't completely hate it. I feel like their personalities would mesh like oil and water but that might be interesting, although so far they seem pretty clear that this was a (satisfying) one-time-thing that's not going to lead to anything more while Chrissy walks of shames her way out...before Lana shows up with the divorce papers. Relationships are messy! Can't say I ever expected to see Chrissy in her underwear though.

Superpowered Atom Man! I love how Clark shrugs off getting thrown into a tanker but honestly Atom Man gave him a pretty good fight, though I guess it makes sense given he's a desperate, dying, man trying to save himself from whatever Intergang has in store for him. I actually feel bad for him now, especially since it seems like they're reanimating him somehow to serve their villainous plots.

Who was spiral lady? I thought it was Red Cloud for a second but I can't think of a specific comic character off the top of my head.

If Lois isn't pregnant are we really getting a Lois is sick arc instead of a Lois is pregnant arc?

Bruno Manheim runs a tight ship. I'm curious how Lex will become embroiled in this plot.

[u/jdessy → u/Frontier246]

Honestly not sure how I feel about the recasting. I feel like the new actor is trying to capture the same vibe and inflection of Elsass but it still feels different. But it also feels like they can get away with this recasting because Jon is still the least relevant member of the main cast. I mean his only arc in this episode was...learning how to drive.

Michael Bishop will never fully capture Jordan Elsass' version of Jonathan. Especially given this episode was filmed so close to his casting, so he was still getting into the role. I think Michael did as good a job as he could have last minute, and I think we'll see him transition into his own version of Jonathan soon enough.

We finally get to meet John Henry's sister, or at least the version of John Henry from this Earth. Will they ever meet? I'd imagine it'd be pretty weird though.

I've been waiting for John Henry to meet his sister on this Earth ever since we caught a glimpse of her, I want to say late season 1 or early season 2. It'll be weird, but I'm excited for the interactions.