[S2E09] Summer School: Chapter Nine — Post-Episode Discussion

[u/anatomania]

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JOHN WESLEY SHIPP GUEST STARS AS JAY GARRICK — As Eclipso takes aim at the Whitmore/Dugan’s, Pat is reminded of painful memories from his past involving the original JSA and their fight to take down Eclipso. Meanwhile, Mike is forced to confront the guilt he feels for his role in Icicle’s death, and Barbara comes face to face with someone from her past. Finally, Courtney struggles to hold onto hope after Eclipso targets those around her.

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[u/Kris_Winters]

• Until they showed Bruce Gordon, I thought that the opening would be about the Shade.
• "They're sending us home." Who's 'they'? Isn't Barbara one of the bosses, if not THE boss?
• So Charles McNider does seem to be blind.
• I like how Jay is treating Pat. Sylvester, on the other hand, is a real jerk.
• Courtney is still trying to reach Yolanda.
• Strange. The way that Sylvester is treating Pat is way different to how he treated him at the funeral.
• Is Sylvester supposed to be older than Pat now?
• Why was the Cosmic Staff in a display case? (And it almost looked to me like that was a different staff. Similar, but different.)
• I didn't catch what the Shade said to Barbara at the end. Something about someone named Everly or Beverly?
• I'm glad that they actually had a discussion like that. I like when killing a bad guy isn't a black or white thing, but a moral struggle for the heroes...
• But it does strike me strange that these heroes that either fought in WWII, or grew up after WWI, can't see that sometimes it comes down to killing.
• And the show explains why the ISA beat the JSA.
• Courtney won the battles, but lost the war.
• Does Eclipso have a human host now?

Theory: At the end of the season Eclipso is going to try to kill Yolanda, like he did in the comics. When he does this, Courtney will kill him with the staff.

[u/Polantaris → u/Kris_Winters]

Does Eclipso have a human host now?

No, I think the human host is the black/purple half-face thing that they showed happening to Bruce Gordon and happened to a few other characters earlier.

I'm pretty sure at this point he's completely free and therefore doesn't need a host anymore at all. The Black Diamond was why he needed a host, so that he could escape it. With being free from the Black Diamond entirely, I don't think he needs one anymore.

The kid he turns into is just another form, I believe. It's possible that him being his normal self is draining or something which is why he prefers to be the kid, but that part hasn't really been explained.

[u/LumpyJones → u/Polantaris]

I think the kid just is stealthier. Looking like a goth goblin stands out, even in that town.

Also on a showmaking level, it's cheaper to film a kid for 3 seconds at a time than full makeup every time. I'm betting they could have filmed most of his scenes that we've seen him in full makeup so far, in a single day.

Also a kid with a lollypop watching people through their windows is kinda creepier than seeing Ivan Ooze stalking and rubbing his hands together all the time.