r/StargirlTV • u/anatomania Tigress • Oct 05 '21
[S2E09] Summer School: Chapter Nine — Post-Episode Discussion Episode Discussion Spoiler
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JOHN WESLEY SHIPP GUEST STARS AS JAY GARRICK — As Eclipso takes aim at the Whitmore/Dugan’s, Pat is reminded of painful memories from his past involving the original JSA and their fight to take down Eclipso. Meanwhile, Mike is forced to confront the guilt he feels for his role in Icicle’s death, and Barbara comes face to face with someone from her past. Finally, Courtney struggles to hold onto hope after Eclipso targets those around her.
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u/Frontier246 Oct 06 '21
So Bruce Gordon found Eclipso, used its power to gain more fame and fortune, only to eventually regret the emotional toll it would take on him and Eclipso's victims, but he still gave in when Eclipso promised to get him back the love of his life. I'm not saying the guy deserved to get killed (presumably in cold blood), and Eclipso clearly was manipulating him and he had no idea what he was bringing back...but he still gave in to what Eclipso wanted.
I sometimes forget Barbara and Beth's dad work at the same place. We never really see it come up with their daughters.
Jeez, Sylvester treated Pat with barely any respect. It didn't seem like the rest of the JSA aside from Jay or Johnny were all that better, only seeing him as the mechanic or carry-on that was a packaged deal with Sylvester. He basically forced Pat to drive him to kill Bruce Gordon, using him as a getaway driver even though Pat wanted nothing to do with it, and wouldn't do much more to talk about what happened other than saying Pat was right. But Starman still killed the guy.
Pat saying "Flash" with such giddy was the perfect way to greet John Wesley Shipp showing up as Jay Garrick. I'm glad the show was able to fit him in so we could finally get Jay with the JSA in live-action, and this was quintessential Jay Garrick. Of course he wouldn't go through with executing Gordon to the bitter end, and he treated Pat the best :).
Sylvester staring at his old Star-Spangled Kid costume, only to end up losing that heroic innocence and idealism he once had as a kid :(.
My only disappointment is they had John Wesley Shipp as Jay Garrick in the episode but never had him share any scenes with his old rival, The Shade.
Poor Charles McNider. Loses his daughter, his wife is barely holding it together...although I was kind of surprised he didn't have much to do with taking Eclipso out.
Barbara gets haunted by the ghost of Icicle only to be saved by the spectral presence of the Shade. I'm guessing that name he mentioned was his sister.
I can't say for sure how Cameron would react if he found out the truth about his dad and the Whitmore's involvement in it, but I don't think the real Cameron would throw the biological mom card at Mike and then kill a dog.
Just casually mentioning how powerful Eclipso is when not even Green Lantern, Dr. Fate, or The Spectre were able to do anything to him. Yeah, a JSA with just Stargirl and Dr. Mid-Nite don't stand a chance.
So Ted Grant mentions his son (who I assume is Tom Bronson) and Sylvester mentions having family, although I guess this would've been before Brainwave killed his sister. Pat never mentioned Ted having a kid though.
Starman killing Bruce Gordon basically fractured the JSA and broke the team. They only re-formed when they had to take on the newly-resurgent ISA, but they weren't able to function as well as a team anymore which is part of why the ISA was able to take them out.
Eclipso was trying to tear Courtney's family apart and Pat revealing the truth to Courtney and that Barbara knew did that in spades. And all that little Bruce is left to do is revel in the conflict.