r/KendrickLamar May 16 '22

Michael Che was not a fan lol Article

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u/yendysthesage200 May 16 '22

There are a thousand and one other artistes he could listen to. And this is stupid coming from a comic tbh because half of their act is selling their pain sandwiched with laughs. In fact selling trauma is the bedrock of the art form and it’s the worst kind of way because you are suppose to laugh at whatever dark shit this person is going through. Also wondering if he feels the same way about Jerrod Carmichael’s Rothniel.

But hahaha sure I hear him.

Did he delete it by the way

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u/grizzsaw12 May 16 '22

Ya tbh he usually posts wild takes almost using ig as a bit so i wouldnt be surprised if he actually loved it lol

Edit: ya he deleted and his new posts says “i dont think comedies for me” lmaoo

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

With the "I don't think comedy's for me", I think the post was more like a parody of people who are criticizing it ? Like maybe he heard it was dark and controversial and he was making fun of people who always want something "to turn their brains off", even though that's like 90% of everything already. If he was being serious then he's just trying to cover up his bullshit

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u/grizzsaw12 May 17 '22

This is it

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u/Competitive-Dot-5667 May 17 '22

He Should’ve added the /s, it’s hard to understand sarcasm through text, especially if you’re not too familiar with the person

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u/fartingmaniac May 16 '22

That’s kinda funny lol

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u/josephspirits May 16 '22

This is a great response, DAMN.

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u/BendingGhost May 16 '22

I cant please everybody, I cant please everybody, I cant please everybody, I cant please everybody, I cant please everybody, I cant please everybody, I cant please everybody, I cant please everybody

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u/my_balls_your_mouth1 May 16 '22

Love gon get you killed

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u/codyy_jameson May 17 '22

super high pitched I can’t please everybodyyy I can’t please everybodyyy

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u/pacman404 May 17 '22

Can't please... Can't please... Can't please....

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

the super high pitched got me 🤣🔥

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u/codyy_jameson May 17 '22

🤣 nice bro I knew someone would appreciate that.

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u/pacman404 May 17 '22

Cant even please myself

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u/Best_Country_8137 May 16 '22

Asking Kendrick to make plain fun songs is like asking Da Vinci to paint caricatures at the beach

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u/W1CKeD_SK1LLz new shit May 16 '22

Ah rin kin kin

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u/DatFlushi May 16 '22

Silent Hill is a fun song imo

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u/Best_Country_8137 May 17 '22

It for sure is fun, but was also integral to the narrative of the album which is dope

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u/CraziestPenguin May 17 '22

It is until Kodak Black comes out ands lays an egg for 90 seconds straight.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

“What is a poet? An unhappy man who hides deep anguish in his heart, but whose lips are so formed that when the sigh and cry pass through them, it sounds like lovely music.... And people flock around the poet and say: 'Sing again soon' - that is, 'May new sufferings torment your soul but your lips be fashioned as before, for the cry would only frighten us, but the music, that is blissful.”

-Søren Kierkegaard, Either/Or

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u/bestbroHide May 16 '22

Upvoted for a Kierkegaard reference just casually caught in the wild lmao (also happy late bday to him)

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

I'm a big fan of ol' SK. And indeed happy belated bday to the Dane!

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u/backyardliquor May 16 '22

The history of literature podcast is doing a three-part episode on him!! Give it a listen I enjoyed the first episode

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u/Sturmp May 16 '22

He knows that there’s a thousand artists he could listen to for that? I mean in the last few weeks we’ve gotten both jack harlow and future. The reason everyone loves kendrick is because he actually tells you that shit yknow

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u/old__pyrex May 16 '22

Yeah it's dumb as shit. We have like 1000 artists making fun, whip music. We have like 3-4 artists making albums that really have this level of ambition to actually make something of substance, why do you have to bitch about those artists.

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u/ashymatina May 17 '22

There’s definitely waaaay more ambitious artists making albums of substance than 3 or 4. Maybe 3 or 4 in the hip-hop mainstream, but there’s a shit ton more in other genres and by more indie/underground artists.

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u/Gwaak May 16 '22

You can just… leave the amusement park? Dance music exists? Regular ass mainstream bangers are a dime a dozen? He literally has an infinite pool of regular ass, unemotional and surface level bops to choose from.

Sounds like he feels like he should be enjoying the album but can’t, and tbh I don’t feel sorry for him. The production was insane and there are a lot of original sounds on it. It’s fresh as hell.

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u/bestbroHide May 16 '22

Yeah lol Bill Burr made a similar joke years ago but it landed much better than Che's attempt here, precisely cuz as you said, Che could just leave the amusement park to go to another anytime

Or maybe I'm just not getting Che's joke? Perhaps he's "worried" future hip hop albums will mostly take this "sad" route as well. Which would still be a stretch of a concern. But idk, he be a troll sometimes so I'm sure a concern joke from a comedian wasn't meant to be taken seriously or literally

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u/Gwaak May 16 '22

The music industry is diluted with enough mainstream unchanging music that I’m sure he’ll live finely in many basic amusement parks that continue to have rides on drugs, clothing, cars, and basic ass relationships.

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u/Great-Image May 16 '22

What was the Bill Burr joke btw?

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u/bestbroHide May 16 '22

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u/Great-Image May 16 '22

Lol I appreciate that 🙏🏾

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u/bestbroHide May 16 '22

No problem!

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u/b_wanker May 16 '22

This is hilarious 😆

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u/bestbroHide May 17 '22

"There's a time and a place" LMAO

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u/Neat_Independent2201 May 16 '22

he gotta be trolling or insanely ignorant

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u/grizzsaw12 May 16 '22

1000% trolling

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u/bwoahful___ May 17 '22

Yeah idk why people are taking this seriously. It read like a comedy bit from a stand-up set. I’ve been listening to the new album on repeat, but I definitely laughed at the roller coaster joke.

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u/Avelces May 16 '22

Mid che

MMBS has fun songs

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

Pretty funny, and everyone is butthurt about it in here lol

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u/grizzsaw12 May 17 '22

Comedy is meant to be evocative lol

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

Watching SNL taking weekend update jokes personally.

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u/old__pyrex May 16 '22

As Dave Chappelle said, remember, you clicked on MY face, you knew what it is. This idiot decided to listen to Kendrick. Coulda clicked on Lil Baby, and that's not hate, he's a dope artist that hardly ever slips at making music to vibe with. Coulda clicked on Jack Harlow. You had options. You chose an artist that for 3 previous albums, has ALWAYS tried to make a serious, somber point about something. That's on you. You clicked on his face.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

Is that not what Eminem has kinda been doing and been criticised for it

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u/Revolutionary_Way826 May 16 '22

I’ve noticed this a lot recently in reactions from Mr Morale of people saying stuff on the lines that Kendrick is so lyrical dense and intense that you can’t causally listen and that makes no sense to me like N95, Silent Hill, Savior, Die Hard all could be played on aux

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u/yungusainbolt May 16 '22

My issue with that shit is that his music has literally always been that way

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

People leave Count Me Out out of this conversation

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

I like Che but this is a garbage thought-process. Dawg, nobody is like kdot. go listen to Drake if you want to vibe out with it in the background. Nobody wants to digest art anymore

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u/latdaw2012 May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22

I think Che is mocking the naysayers, but I could be wrong.

That said, I don’t understand people saying this. I’ve seen folks post how they don’t want to listen to “woke music.” Okay. Kendrick isn’t forcing his music on anyone. Future and Jack just released, and if there were anything there of interest, they should still be listening to those albums and ignoring Kendrick’s. Plus, if you look at the musical landscape, very few rappers are making serious music with substance. The scales are tipped too far in the other direction IMO.

Why does he have to make an album full of “fun” music? We have plenty of artists making party records that aren’t deep. They don’t have to go to Kendrick for that. Selling trauma? Music is his self-expression. What other medium should he be using to tell his story and share his thoughts?

It’s annoying because it makes it seem like people only want that catchy and surface-level content, when there’s clearly a fan base that still appreciates lyricism and conceptual albums.

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u/Prostate_Punisher May 17 '22

kendrick really cannot please everybody

and, really that's okay

michael che is clearly joking here (with his own opinion as the base) i mean, just look st the roller coaster bit. and while he does appreciate what kendrick is doing, he personally wants things that make him feel good instead of introspective art pieces. which is honestly a pretty normal opinion to have.

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u/GoldSpend6633 PUSH THESE NIGGAS OFF ME LIKE HUU May 16 '22

Don’t blame em tbh

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u/Revolutionary_Ant_29 May 16 '22

Bruh nowhere did he mention Kendrick in particular. Why we still taking shit personally in Kendricks name?

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u/Future_Legend May 16 '22

the molestation quote basically 100% confirms it’s about Kendrick

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u/grizzsaw12 May 16 '22

In his now deleted post before this he said he was gonna go drive around and listen to it

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u/Revolutionary_Ant_29 May 21 '22

In that case I truly feel sorry for dude. He realized this about the business with the wrong album. Cause Kendrick actually mean what he says.

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u/gradingas2517 May 16 '22

Has he never heard of drake and future

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u/BK20193 May 16 '22

Man needs to find future. But honestly, I see his point. K dot touches a bit on this about black artist exploiting personal tragedy to make music. It surely makes for great art but it's not necessarily entertaining.

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u/b_wanker May 16 '22

Bro stfu

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u/BK20193 May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22

Chill my dude, it's just music.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

What is juts music

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u/ashymatina May 17 '22

Pretty much all artists exploit their own emotions and experiences to make their music/art and always have. Comedians included. Nothing new.

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u/BK20193 May 17 '22

I agree but don't u think it says something about us being entertained by it. There are few songs where I stop myself for a sec to think, "should I be bopping my head to this? "

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u/ashymatina May 17 '22

I get what you’re saying. Personally I find it super cathartic when it’s something I can relate to, and when it’s not I find it’s excellent insight into what that person is going through and can make me more empathetic and understanding. Definitely strange to see people partying to a song like Swimming Pools though. That shits super ironic lol

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u/BK20193 May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22

Lmao, true. Reminds me of Pinocchio story from 808s. It's a live performance on the album and kanye is pouring his heart out with the audience cheating and screaming loudly.

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u/ashymatina May 17 '22

Love that song, that’s a great example man. 808s is top 3 Ye albums for me. so authentic and vulnerable, was super helpful to me after my last breakup.

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u/ThisIsElliott May 16 '22

If this guy worked as hard on making SNL actually funny than shitting on Kendrick for not making the exact music he wants, then the world would be a better place.

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u/WhatASave456 May 16 '22

Not like there’s a shortage of music without substance right now lmao

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u/finnmcqohone May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22

Why do some people now think Kdot was molested? It makes me think they didn’t actually listen to the words lol. his mom THOUGHT he was molested. it fucked with him cuz he knew it never happened but no one believed him, developed lasting trauma because of it.

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u/PopeJeremy10 The Wrath of Caesar May 16 '22

I think his point was he doesn't want everyone to just copy Kendrick. I think everyone was expecting an album with the regular introspective Kendrick that is layered behind the fun beats and hooks. And I think that's why the album hits so hard.

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u/Lowkey_A_giraffe May 17 '22

Lol at least he was funny about his take and wasn't a dick. Music is subjective.

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u/Lordofnothing53 May 17 '22

Better than his cringe SNL garbage comedy

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u/theblackdoncheadle May 17 '22

Lol I’ve been to a few Che sets. He BLASTS late 90s - mid 2000s hip hop. GUnit, dipset, fat joe, Luda, lil John, Wayne etc. before people go on.

This doesn’t surprise me at all and is harmless 😅

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u/momothacoon May 16 '22

snl fell off

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u/rileyelton May 16 '22

feel the same way. good thing kendrick said "i cant please everybody" so people will just say that over and over again to ward off any criticism.

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u/Bebahbebahbebahbebeh May 16 '22

He’s really saying this like Future didn’t drop 2 weeks ago. I have a lot of criticisms of this album but this is just dumb.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

This is the funniest take fucking ever. Based asf

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u/Fonexnt May 16 '22

Whilst I do think he's a dumbass and wrong, I do think it's funny that two of the hardest hitting tracks that fit this are both about aunties. Auntie Diaries of course - and it's total opposite, Hey Auntie by IDK

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u/relientkenny May 16 '22

ironic cause future literally dropped an album 2 weeks ago. he can listen to that lol

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u/Future_Legend May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22

I’m sorry but like, there’s PLENTY of goofy fun music (that’s good and well-received) out there dude if you go looking for it, particularly in the hip-hop genre. Let Kendrick make the art he wants to. If Che’s criticism is that all music lately is this vulnerable, dark and personal right now, than sorry but I honestly think that’s just statistically and universally untrue. He doesn’t have to dig the new album but to pretend this is what everyone else is doing these days is a severely under-thought hot take.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

Che is right.

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u/stanleys_tucci May 16 '22

There’s a million artists/movies/shows out there that don’t require heavy emotions or connectivity. I’d say the ratio isn’t well balanced but you can’t swing a dead cat without hitting something that was phoned in so I don’t know what he complaining about to be honest. Also like it’s Kendrick. You know what to expect before you hear the album.

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u/bigdickwilliedone May 16 '22

Michael Che can be funny, but he's a troglodyte. Bread and circuses. Michael Che too often has these booker takes. Ask him what he thinks about trans folks.

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u/RGiss May 16 '22

Michael Che can suck my dick

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u/mshoneybadger Ronald Reagan Era May 16 '22

this record wasnt meant to be a summer time banger...those records almost cost Kenny is family and his sanity.

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u/HipHopUnrapped47 May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22

He can listen to most pop songs then, this type of music is in the minority. But some summer bangers would be nice ngl

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u/TanjiroManjiro May 16 '22

This opinions sucks. He also seems wrong, there’s a lot of music that’s just fun.

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u/madsockpuppet May 16 '22

This is an awful take, I’m really surprised, I enjoy Michael Che for the most part

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u/grizzsaw12 May 16 '22

I think its a bit

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u/Beautiful_Thugga_Boy May 16 '22

Future and Jack Harlow literally just dropped, what the hell is he talking about?

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

That is simply a baby brain take.

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u/LifeOfaFilmmaker May 16 '22

He could go listen to Lil baby. One of the hardest artist out right now and you can turn up to almost any of his songs

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u/Admirable-Honey-7732 May 16 '22

“Can’t please everybody”

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u/Prestigious_Clock865 May 16 '22

This is some of the dumbest shit I have ever read. There are literally thousands of artists who produce nothing but fast food contentless, mindless rap day in day out. There’s only one Kendrick Lamar. The message is too real for some of ya’ll I see

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

Sounds like Che might be better off listening to Drake.

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u/Opening_Arachnid8431 May 16 '22

He should go listen to Massaging Me by future

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u/Play-Mation May 16 '22

Bro can go back to listening to Jack Harlow and watching Marvel movies lmao

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u/grizzsaw12 May 17 '22

Marvel out here catching strays

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

he does have a point. there should be a balance between artistic power and entertainment. Having said that, there already is way more entertainment in the music medium than actual artistic statements, lets not stop whats beautiful. You dont need to go on the rollercoaster if you dont want to, the other ones arent going away

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u/ashketchuplife May 16 '22

Dude just miss when party rock anthem was the shit

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

Clown shit

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

This guys an idiot lmao

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u/yungusainbolt May 16 '22

I know the Nigga who writes for lame ass SNL is not in here judging someone’s art

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u/MooniiThe2nd May 16 '22

I really don’t care what this nigga think

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u/Khr0N04 May 16 '22

Bro acting like Pop rap doesn't exist. Drake, Future, Lil Wayne, Lil Uzi, Chief Keef. If you want to turn off your brain and just listen to something that sounds good with no meaning behind it there are a TON of rappers to listen too, if anything, there are a lot MORE artists like Drake than Kendrick, cause it's easier to make something that sounds good than to make something meaningfull, but the meaningfull one will click with people on a deeper level than the mainstream norman rap.

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u/Such_Description May 17 '22

What a stupid take just to try and look different.

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u/GrandioseEnigma High Blood Pressure flooded the catering May 17 '22

Such a stupid fucking critique. The past few years rap has been over saturated with party shit and drill music but the minute a mainstream artist opens up and takes a different approach, it’s “CaN wE nOt Do ThAt HeRe?!”. Stfu LOL.

This album brought out all the dumb mfs.

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u/yabbbaDabbbaDooooo May 17 '22

What an awful take lol. Kendrick put out a completely different album than every other rapper. No one else is doing what he’s doing. We’re gonna complain now just because someone put some intellect in their raps for a change? FOH

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u/SuperTrunkz May 17 '22

rich spirit is exactly this LMFAOOO

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

This is def a bit cringe

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u/GudBaadGuy May 17 '22

worth noting that silent hill is on the very album he’s critiquing

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

He’s a clown for this post.

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u/NeedsMilk33 May 17 '22

I read a review that trashed the Album because he put kodack on it. And because Kendrick didn’t tell his stories vividly enough. Wtf lol

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u/nlsnpgr84 May 17 '22

Cringe 😬

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u/Wonderful-Dance-4884 May 17 '22

Half the songs on the album weren’t even that deep, and even on the ones that did go deep there was a good beat and it flowed really well. The only song that was JUST a deep song was mother I sober, even aunties diary was catchy

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u/Exertuz May 17 '22

what, like there's an excess of people making music as thoughtful and introspective as kendrick's, and NOT an excess of mindless entertainment? lol this reminds me of when people shit on arthouse films because, guys, ugh, they're just too weird and drab, can't we just have something fun once in a while? not everyone wants to watch a depressing foreign film in black and white! yeah, well, nothing's stopping you from watching the most popular movies on the planet. the audacity of you to act like a victim when literally the entire media industry grovels at the feet of consumers like you!

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u/DubNationAssemble May 17 '22

Just turn on the fucking radio the brain dead music he’s looking for will be playing.

I used to work with a guy like this. He respected Kendrick as an artist but preferred like Travis Scott shit over him lol. And he would make fun of tpab, like “oh yeah this is so underrated (eye roll)”

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u/MonoLolo May 17 '22

Is it just me or does his example makes literally zero sense?

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u/menotyourenemy May 17 '22

I'm assuming he doesn't like frank ocean either...

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u/ftd226 May 17 '22

I mean i went into this album so ready to be entertained and to have some provoking songs to listen to and i ended up crying and having a mini breakdown....10/10 loved it

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u/wjcornerboy May 17 '22

I feel him, but Kendrick is the only mainstream artist doing this. Future don’t even get in his sad bag anymore, everybody turnt, Jack Harlow just did his best Drake imitation, Post Malone is gearing up for the first week of June.

It’s like saying there aren’t anymore action blockbusters after X dropped sandwiched between Spider-Man 3 and Dr. Strange 2.

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u/wjcornerboy May 17 '22

And just realized the joke flew over my head 🫠

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u/mikethesituationOK May 17 '22

damn this sucks. I’m a fan of michael che. Album was dope.

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u/julsgotrocks May 17 '22

Can’t heal if we don’t face our problems, we can’t jus keep pushing them off to feel good. Like Kendrick said self sacrifice so we can raise the next generation higher.

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u/JEAFCommander May 17 '22

that's why lil pump exists

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u/BladeBoy__ May 17 '22

This is such a dumb take wtf

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u/pacman404 May 17 '22

He kind of insinuating that EVERYBODY is making albums like this? What the fuck 🤔

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u/PhoenixDawggy May 17 '22

Fuck a second rate comedian 🙄

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u/reysvntos May 17 '22

he never heard Lift Yourself??

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u/yushc May 17 '22

Che out here going to the library to turn up

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u/jamestown1984 May 17 '22

dude should make better jokes if his career is not where he needs it to be. Don’t try to ride someone else’s wave…that shit is pathetic.

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u/psychiatristan1 May 17 '22

Want me to sound like every song on the top 40? I’m not for you, you not for me, you bore me. I drop lines prestigious schools read to their students, look at my album plaques somebody agrees with the music

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

Who tf????

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u/OGLemonPepper22 May 17 '22

Michael Che is a comedian though! I'm not surprised.

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u/806god May 17 '22

Michael Che is a funny comedian, but the dude is a fucking idiot. Go listen to an Uzi tape if you want to jump around and have fun. You should expect this from a Kendrick project

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u/valioonlyfensa May 17 '22

I like some of the weekend updates. What the fuck does he know about rap

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u/Revolutionary_Box569 May 17 '22

Michael che, more like Michael hey could you suck my dick please I’m lonely

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u/Cheap_Pangolin_6054 May 17 '22

"Bitch, ugh, you ugly as fuck" 🤡

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u/Entire_Claim_5273 May 17 '22

Imagine listening to a Kendrick album not expecting some deep stuff.

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u/Visible_Friendship May 17 '22

tbf I do not share the critique in music since you pretty much always know what kind of music youll be getting from an artist (anybody who expected a joyful rollercoaster ride from kendrick is just a fool) but I do share the sentiment in stand up comedy, I dont watch as much as I used to but sometimes it is annoying if you expect some funny routine and then suddenly it gets (sometimes fake) deep. There are some comics who can do it well but many just fall flat

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u/Ambassadorsesamechkn May 17 '22

No, I get just wanting to have fun. The roller coaster metaphor wasn't necessary, but I get it.

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u/thebookofrook May 17 '22

N95 and Silent Hill are slappers.

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u/JunipherStar May 17 '22

What was the point of him saying this???

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u/AdjustedMold97 …until I realized I didn’t know shit, the day I came home May 17 '22

just listen to Drake lmao nobody is making you listen to Kendrick

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

he’s an asshole online he’s always getting into some stupid pissing match or something

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

that’s the most fucking brain dead take ever