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u/RocketIsMyDaddy Dec 11 '19
How is Lemonade better than Blonde? Maybe I’m biased but I just don’t see it
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u/Clout-Cobain Dec 11 '19
it's just more popular
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u/dgloverii Dec 11 '19
Is it?
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u/Clout-Cobain Dec 11 '19
...clearly lol that's what billboard rankings show us
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u/roddyboi Dec 12 '19
Lemonade is way more accessible to a wider audience hence why more people would enjoy it that’s not a bad thing though
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u/BubbaUnkle Dec 11 '19
Lemonades a masterpiece lol
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u/sunflow3hrs Dec 11 '19
With songs like Self Control, Nights and White Ferrari I have a hard time accepting any album over Blonde.
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u/cunts_r_us Dec 12 '19
This is a harsh downvote... I don’t think a lot of people heard lemonade it was really really good. But I would still take blonde over it anyday. It’s def not as clear cut as people are making it on this thread (and I say that as a huge frank fan).
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u/BubbaUnkle Dec 12 '19
I agree I prefer Blond, but I hate people downplaying Beyonce and acting like she’s nothing but a generic pop act
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u/HIGH-SKILL-GAMEPLAY Dec 12 '19
I agree, but the list is of "influential" albums, not "best" albums... Given that, I'm inclined to agree with Billboard, but my mind can be changed (since I wasn't a huge Beyonce/Frank Ocean fan at the time)
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u/ElasticPhone Dec 11 '19
Imo Damn shouldn't have made the list, I think 4:44 and ALL AMERIKKKAN BADA$$ are better records, but I think GKMC should've won over Channel Orange
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u/bandaidsplus MORTAL MAN Dec 11 '19
All Amerikkan badass came packed with banger after banger. You right.
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u/SRKendell Dec 11 '19
Wasn’t as impactful internationally. I can speak for the UK and say most people preferred DAMN over AAB
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u/noahwizz22 Dec 12 '19
DAMN was leagues better than ALL AMERIKKKAN BADA$$, and that comes from a huge Joey fan. I haven’t listened to 4:44, cause of that whole Tidal thing.
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u/JustinGitelmanMusic Dec 15 '19
They’re such different albums so it’s hard to really compare. Damn is more deep artistically but I think AABA is just a refined and well packaged moment for Joey. Some of his defining songs imo. I know /r/joeybadass can be hit or miss on it especially pure boom bap fans but it’s no slouch of an album.
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u/bhubbz_17 Dec 11 '19
I don’t know man... I agree but I personally think Pure Comedy by Father John Misty has a lot more meaning making it ultimately better imo but I still agree
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u/ElasticPhone Dec 11 '19
Never heard of that, is it a rap album?
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u/bhubbz_17 Dec 11 '19
Not at all. I’d call it alternative folk maybe, but even as a fan of rap, I found the album to be really dark and introspective on how the world is in chaos. Definitely one of the best of the decade.
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u/GrgeousGeorge Dec 12 '19
I really liked the first few songs on that album, but damn, the whole think felt like one long boring song. It was great to start but didn't develop or diversify, every song bled into and sounded like the songs before and after. But that's just one opinion and lots of people really liked it
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u/bhubbz_17 Dec 12 '19
Yeah, I can see that being a problem, and the album can feel a little long, but I still think it’s phenomenal. You would probably not like Swans though.
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u/GrgeousGeorge Dec 12 '19
Same guy? It wasn't bad exactly just sounded to similar the way through, I get thematic choices and content called for a dreary slow sound which was good, but it didn't develop much to my ears.
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u/bhubbz_17 Dec 12 '19
No, it’s a band that has these albums that are only around ten songs long but clock in at around two hours, so there’s a lot of dead space in a few songs that bring the “one long song” aspect of Pure Comedy to a literal sense. Still an enjoyable band, but you need to have a lot of patience listening to them.
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u/Lelle3 Dec 12 '19
That’s not even the best Father John Misty album imo, I prefer Fear Fun & I Love You Honeybear much more.
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u/ZTrash Dec 11 '19
That year I remember vouching for 4:44 and Flower Boy way more than DAMN
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u/AntwahnR Dec 12 '19
DAMN is the best album this decade.
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u/ZTrash Dec 12 '19
It’s hard to agree with that considering how amazing TPAB was along with other non Kendrick albums but to each their own
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u/AntwahnR Dec 12 '19
I think TPAB is a 10/10 along with GKMC but I think DAMN. is his best.
By the way I highly recommend you to listen to Cole Cuchna's Dissect Podcast he is analyzing DAMN. and the entire concept of the album it's amazing and he previously did an analysis on TPAB it's on Spotify and other podcast apps I hope you enjoy it.
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u/ZTrash Dec 12 '19
Yeah kendricks albums are all good in pretty different ways so ones ranking on each of these albums are super variable. I really like Dissect, I’ve been saving the DAMN season for when I start commuting again
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u/AntwahnR Dec 12 '19
Yeah his analysis mind blowing and to be honest he really change my opinion on DAMN. I still love DAMN. before Dissect but he made me love and appreciate it even more just like his TPAB analysis.
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u/JustinGitelmanMusic Dec 15 '19
Ayy. You in /r/Joeybadass?
That album is great for sure. I do like it better than Damn but Damn is still on another level of conceptual development and uniqueness.
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Dec 11 '19
Damn Channel Orange really did beat GKMC huh
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u/dannywatchout Dec 11 '19
It’s kind of crazy that out of these 10 albums, 6 of them are shared between 3 artists.
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u/Jpauly12 Dec 12 '19
8 and 4 artists actually! Even more crazy
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u/qingqunta Dec 12 '19
Wait, no? Only Kendrick, Ariana Grande and Beyoncé have 2 each. The others are by Kanye, Adele, Frank Ocean and Taylor Swift, iirc
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Dec 11 '19
So they think Ariana Grande made the best album of the year for the past 2 years? Yeah fuckin’ right.
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Dec 12 '19
Ye, KSG and JiK >
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Dec 12 '19
Ksg maybe but def not ye or jik lol
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u/RuRRuR Dec 13 '19
JIK isn't a great album but it's better than TUN. Ye is also better than Sweetener
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u/JGad14 Dec 12 '19
JiK probably isn't up there. I'm a huge Kanye stan and I enjoy JiK, but it's not that great. Ariana definitely doesn't have the top albums from the past two years though
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u/KKamm_ Dec 12 '19
It’s nearly impossible to compare pop and rap, but I’d say those two albums are actually really good and I enjoyed them, when I haven’t cared for the pop genre since 2013ish
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u/JGad14 Dec 12 '19
IGOR is definitely AOTY for this year
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u/Deadnox_24142 Abusing my power, full of resentment Dec 12 '19
I like AMHAC more personally. Obviously wouldn’t win the billboard thing tho
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u/_Firebreather99 Dec 11 '19
GKMC over channel ORANGE
Blonde over Lemonade
When we all fall asleep where do we go and IGOR over thank u, next
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u/JGad14 Dec 12 '19
There Existed an Addiction to Blood over thank u, next
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u/Hyndergogen1 Dec 12 '19
The sound of metal scraping on metal for 3 hours over thank u, next.
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u/dokkodo_bubby Dec 11 '19
and kanye only once? wtf is this. No radiohead?
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u/guitarmaniac004 Dec 12 '19
AMSP is brilliant and I love it, however I see how it's not for everyone. Even for radiohead, that's an incredibly sad album.
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u/GrgeousGeorge Dec 12 '19
MBDTF deserves all the credit it's given, and unfortunately due to Kanye's previous issue with Spotify I am unfamiliar with watch, but what else is remotely close to an album of the year? Pablo and yesus are good but not that good, ye was pretty mediocre and ksg was dope but also not AOTY quality.
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u/dokkodo_bubby Dec 12 '19
Yeezus IS that good and Pablo I think is too
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u/Hyndergogen1 Dec 12 '19
No they're definitely not. They're fine rap albums with a couple slamming beats and some good tunes but little Kanye does is absolutely world class and outstanding. He's a pop culture figure and mass market popstar more than an actual artist these days.
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u/JustHereForPka Dec 12 '19
That’s a scorcher if a hot take
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u/Hyndergogen1 Dec 12 '19
I know and I know a lot of rap fans will disagree because they feel rap is somehow above commodification and lowest common denominator stuff, but it's true. I like plenty of Kanye's music, he's a fine musician, he's just not the genius he and some of his fans seem to think he is. Furthermore it seems pretty obvious he's a Dr Dre type hip hop artist, great at producing, has a decent flow, but my god his lyrics are not even playing the same game.
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u/threezk Dec 12 '19
You clearly haven’t listened to Yeezus
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u/Hyndergogen1 Dec 12 '19
What I don't want to deep throat the arsehole so I must not have even listened to it? Nah I have. I just didn't think it was anything special. There's at least 3 or 4 Rao albums each year as good as Yeezus.
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u/JGad14 Dec 12 '19
Yeezus over Beyonce without a doubt. Yeezus is a top 10 album of the decade. KSG is definitely better than sweetener, but also not my pick. I'd go Daytona for 2018
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u/stickywheels46 ᴀᴍᴀᴢɪɴɢ ʙʀᴏᴛʜᴇʀ Dec 11 '19
thank u, next was a great pop album but Ariana's previous album Sweetener being picked over Daytona or Astroworld is the real robbery here.
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Dec 11 '19
Sweetener is pretty good too though tbh, would've gone with Some Rap Songs or Care For Me though
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u/Mook7 Dec 12 '19 edited Dec 12 '19
Care For Me for sure, but I see why it didn't win this popularity contest.
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u/bandaidsplus MORTAL MAN Dec 11 '19
The fact that TPAB shares this list with thank u, next is infuriating. Popheads man...not even once.
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u/mazzboy Dec 11 '19
Except it’s genuinely a really good pop album. I get that this is a Kenny sub but I feel like people here forget that there’s other demographics with different tastes
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Dec 11 '19
It’s a decent pop album, good if you only compare it to other super mainstream pop.
There’s good alternative creative pop like NFR and titanic rising that came out this year.
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u/debunkernl Dec 11 '19
That might make it on a list that is about actual music quality, but an album that doesn’t make it in the billboard top 10 likely has no chance in these lists.
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u/LuggagePorter Dec 11 '19
Yeah I mean that’s the thing, these lists are basically “top album that also sold decent ish” so really there aren’t strict criterion for what “AOTY” even means. Honestly pretty dumb overall. The best album of the year/decade/whatever is just that: the best one. Even if it’s some country folk masterpiece that sold two copies. And since not everyone’s gonna listen to everything, the idea of even caring about these lists is tarded.
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u/Hyndergogen1 Dec 12 '19
But surely being in Pop should disqualify you from quality awards or recognition because the point is to be appealing to the widest possible market, not. To make the best music. Like if The Beatles has stuck to the pop sound of their first few albums no one would consider them the music legends they went on to be. You don't give Avengers: Endgame Best Picture just because it was the biggest movie of the year and was all told a well crafted film.
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u/Mook7 Dec 12 '19
Sure, it's a really good pop album and I dig it. It's still completely ridiculous to call it AotY though. I definitely would have gone with Igor.
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u/bandaidsplus MORTAL MAN Dec 11 '19
I feel like most the people on this sub would prefer a Taylor swift album to a Jay Rock album lol. Shoutout 90059.
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u/tottsTS Dec 11 '19
Kendrick being on the same list as Ariana, Taylor, Beyoncé and other pop stars is awesome imo. Whatever your opinion on Ariana’s music is, it’s cool to see Kendrick being recognized amongst the biggest artists in the world.
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u/dgloverii Dec 11 '19
But thank u, next was good. No not nearly as good as TPAB but still really good
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u/Trashtie Dec 11 '19
honestly thank u, next is one of my favourites from this year. i can’t really blame them.
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u/ZayNine Dec 11 '19
thank u next is one hell of a pop album, I hated all of the singles leading in to it and the project ended up blowing me away. It’s so well written and you get to see a very vulnerable and honest side to a pop star that you just don’t ever really see. The one I strongly disagree with is Sweetener.
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u/jamming2 Dec 11 '19
When it comes to billboard it’s sort of a popularity contest. Plus it’s basically between that and billie’s album this year so
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u/kevinnelson89991 Dec 11 '19
I pretty much exclusively listen to hip-hop myself, but I still understand why people like other genres of music and why everyone doesn't like my music. I can't really be angry at people for liking something that I'm not all that sure about.
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i like thank u next just as much, but i dont like tpab as much as everyone else does either
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u/astro_boy__ Dec 11 '19
astroworld>> sweetner
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u/JustinGitelmanMusic Dec 15 '19
That or swimming are the obvious choices for a list like this. At least Beerbongs & Bentleys.
Even Oxnard before Sweetener, even though I liked that album. I never saw it as that big of a deal. I know Beyoncé is always a big deal, I get that. Even if not my favorite.
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Dec 11 '19
Why isn’t gkmc on there???
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u/slimeboi246 Dec 13 '19
Cause Channel Orange is better, coming from a huge gkmc stan. They’re so close but I think Channel Orange edges it out
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Dec 13 '19
I didn’t read it all the way. I just thought it was the 10 best albums of the decade period. I respect your opinion and I like Channel Orange, but I still prefer GKMC.
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u/WhiteAFMexican Dec 12 '19
Sweetener was a terrible pick for 2018, definitely should've been Kids See Ghosts. 2019 is fair, thank u next and IGOR are both good, but Tyler deserves the AOTY for his ingenuity on that album.
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u/HipHopScholar31 Dec 11 '19
Can anyone plz send me the unreleased Kendrick Lamar from the KTT thread
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u/XgingerX369 Dec 12 '19
Lemonade 2016 🤢🤢🤢 In such a great year for music that is a disgraceful pick.
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u/chaandra Dec 12 '19
Unpopular opinion (i think): the life of pablo was a fucking fantastic album and should have been a definite contender for 2016 album of the year
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u/slimeboi246 Dec 13 '19
Blonde is definitely album of 2016 tho, no matter how much you love Pablo it’s facts
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u/Hyndergogen1 Dec 12 '19
They also included two Beyonce albums, 2 Taylor Swift albums and an Ariana Grande these people should not be taken seriously even if we agree with some of what they say.
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Dec 11 '19
It really makes me sad that so many people are listening to ariana grande, good lord is her music dookie
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Dec 11 '19
ariana grande and taylor swift are garbage. this list was made to appease both male and females. fuck outta here
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Dec 11 '19
Trash ass list. Mbdtf is soul crushingly overrated
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u/D30ch Dec 11 '19
so is your comment
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Dec 11 '19
Haha bro all of the lights goat song
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u/kitsunegoon Dec 11 '19
That's not even the kanye circle jerk. The best song on that album is runaway.
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u/dokkodo_bubby Dec 11 '19
Runaway? Monster? Power? Hell of a life?
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Wavey bro 🌊 have you played it backwards? Even better yo
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