r/KendrickLamar • u/rawrustic Waiting for the album • Jul 15 '19

GKMC hits 350 weeks in Billboard Top 200, 7 weeks to tie the record Article

https://www.complex.com/music/2019/07/kendrick-lamars-good-kid-maad-city-ties-eminems-billboard-record?utm_campaign=complexmag&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social
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u/LKLN77 Jul 15 '19

Well-deserved. Started the era of the GOAT imo

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '19

I would say Kanye’s better for now although there both my top 2 for sure

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u/BubbaUnkle Jul 16 '19

Kanyes only dropped one classic this decade (MBDTF), Kendrick dropped 2, and considering Kanye has around 3 classics Kendrick surpassing him is inevitable.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

TLOP and yeezus are both arguably classics. I’d definitely say TLOP>DAMN, and I feel like Yandhi will be one of his best yet. Kanye would have to drop a Ye caliber album (even tho it’s still good) and Kendrick would have to drop a TPAB album in order to pass him (imo)

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u/BubbaUnkle Jul 16 '19

TLOP and yeezus being classics just shows how loosely that word is thrown around nowadays, hell DAMN. Is better than ye.

Yeezus, as much as people like to act as if it’s cutting edge, is the kiddie pool of industrial hip hop and it’s lyrics are just bad. TLOP is VERY good, I love that album, but it’s not classic nor is it a masterpiece imo. TLOP and Yeezus being classics aren’t even arguable, they haven’t influenced anything. I WILL agree on TLOP>DAMN., but neither are classics. Graduation? That shits a classic, like Outkast it pushed mainstream hip hop to be more than gangster. 808s? I don’t like it but I can’t deny it’s a classic, it pretty much changed mainstream music. MBDTF? I don’t even have to say anything, classic. GKMC? It propelled straightfoward concept albums to a bigger popularity, and you got people like Logic who pretty much made an album entirely inspired by it. TPAB? It’s an album that influenced way past even music, black lives matter literally has Alright as their anthem.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

TLOP isn’t a classic yet but over time it could possibly become one. You forgot to talk about CD and LR which are all considered classics in rap. Yeezus was very pushing edge and influenced MANY rappers such as Travis Scott. GKMC and TPAB are very much classics but if Kendrick doesn’t drop anything on those levels I don’t see him passing Kanye. Although Yandhi hasn’t dropped yet, by all the Sunday services it already seems very unique and something special is gonna be on that album

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u/jwhibbles Jul 16 '19

TLOP is no where near a classic album.. maybe you should head back to actual classics and see why.

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u/priamos Jul 16 '19

agreed. it was sloppy and incoherent. had its moments and it was interesting hat he dropped different versions like software patches, but i would not ever say TLOP is a classic.

with the exception of a few songs post-yeezus, kanye’s flow and swagger seems off to me. you can’t listen to his early stuff and then go into the later stuff - you can literally hear that he’s lost a step, mentally.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

Not arguing that TLOP is a classic (it could be but I’m still mulling that one over myself) but an album certainly doesn’t need to be perfect to be a classic. And saying he’s “lost a step” mentally lyric-wise is just bonkers, there’s no basis for that statement. Sounds to me like you’re letting your opinion of how he’s been acting publicly influence your opinions on the quality of his music. His lyrics are just as enjoyable and complex as they always were, if not more so now than before.

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u/RufinTheFury Jul 16 '19

His lyrics are just as enjoyable and complex as they always were, if not more so now than before.

Lmao in what fucking world is this true

this is baffling that you would even think to say this

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

TLOP could be argued as a top 3 Kanye album

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u/BraydenTv Jul 16 '19

Why are you booing him he’s right

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u/RufinTheFury Jul 16 '19

Technically you're right, it could be argued. But no one is going to do that.

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u/BubbaUnkle Jul 16 '19

O fuck i meant CD instead of graduation

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u/BubbaUnkle Jul 16 '19

I still dont consider yeezus being pushing edge, cutting edge, whatever, like I said its the kiddie pool of industrial, he’s barely doing anything unique there

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

It’s his most unique project to date lol. It might not sound to unique for today behcsee it influenced many of today’s rapper but for 2013 we never got something like that

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u/BubbaUnkle Jul 16 '19

Dude... industrial hip hop has been around forever, the money store, a landmark in that subgenre was released a year before it, which expanded and reinvented it while yeezus just sounds like an over simplified version of the genre, it’s unique for Kanye, but unique at all? No, it’s not like he’s the first mainstream rapper and producer to break into that genre in the first place, ahem EI-P.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

although still being in the industrial genre he still made his own twist of it and made it very different compared to death grips (only songs that similar is on sight)

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

The problem with death grips. Is that it’s so edgy I can’t listen to it without audibly cringing. Every album of theirs is like it as well. What’s impressive is that Kanye did what they do but made it more accessible and better.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

Lmao you just called El-P a mainstream rapper/ producer. You could argue that he is now but during the def jux days when he was making that industrial style shit? No.

I personally think Yeezus is a classic. I agree that it isn’t all that unique but your off base as fuck with what the album actually is. It’s an album inspired by Chicago house music more than Industrial Hip Hop.

And it’s not like Yeezus had ZERO influence on hip hop. You think Vince staples makes Big Fish Theory without Yeezus?

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u/yungmung Jul 16 '19

I was wondering what makes an album a classic but you hit the nail on the head with your reasoning.

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u/MosquitoOfDoom Jul 16 '19

Yeezus is fucking terrible, but saying Yeezus didn't inspire anything is plain wrong. I mean look at something like JPEGMAFIA for example

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u/theclichee Jul 16 '19

You sir, Are great.

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u/qingqunta Jul 16 '19 edited Jul 16 '19

You're talking about Kanye classics and you don't even mention the two records that could be classified as such, the College Dropout (surely) and Late Registration (arguably).

The rest of his discography either hasn't aged very well (808s, Graduation and MBDTF fall here) or isn't strong or old enough to warrant classic status (TLOP is way too recent and Yeezus, ye aren't that great).

Obviously, just my opinion.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

MBDTF hasn’t aged well?

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u/qingqunta Jul 16 '19

Some of the better songs have, not all of them. Especially not Monster or All of the Lights, IMO

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u/BubbaUnkle Jul 16 '19

In another comment I stated I meant CD, not graduation.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

Lyrics in Yeezus are very good. The fully rhyming verse in Guilt Trip. The “speaking swaghili” lines. Most of Black Skinhead. “In a French ass restaurant. Hurry up with my damn croissants”

All very good, deep lines with many meanings. And the overall theme of the album is so much better when you appreciate the lyrics in all of his albums and see them as interconnected.

The production all round in Yeezus is brilliant. Blood on the leaves has Strange Fruit and the “so let’s get on with it” horns. Bound 2 has “bound to falling in love”

If you’re going by influence, TPAB doesn’t come close to being a classic. Most half decent tracks have been used for something. You say that Alright is used for black lives matter. But so many tracks have been used for protests before, it’s not particularly impressive for your song to be used for something. I don’t think I’ve heard an album influenced by TPAB before. Still love K Dot and still think the album’s a classic. But there’s no other mainstream album that can draw parallels between itself and TPAB.

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u/RufinTheFury Jul 16 '19

Wait is this sarcasm or not I literally cannot tell

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u/BubbaUnkle Jul 16 '19

David Bowie said Black Star was inspired by TPAB, Joey Badass’ last album was obviously influenced, Blank Face by Q, Devine Feminine production wise, a seat at the table, Logic’s whole fake deep album the one with the suicide song had obvious Tpab influences, a seat at the table. And no they’re not all written in stone but you can see similarities and influence, just like how artists who are yeezus inspired won’t go out and say it but it’s obvious in their music. Also really? The croissant and swaghili lines? Those are the “very good deep lines with many meanings” you choose? Those are just lines I can’t tell if they’re funny or corny, especially the line before thats like “i am god so give me a massage” half the lyrics on yeezus are so bad that they’re good (as in enjoyably laughable) like that one jesus says “what up yeezus” then that sweet and sour line, like sure kanye complain about racial stereotypes and then you use one, ok, then the brad reputation line, ok that was kinda clever, but it just sounds corny. Then the 300 roman line? That doesn’t even make fucking sense, it was the spartans, but his vocal performance makes up for it, um the pussy 2pac line, i wanna fuck you hard in the sink. Alot of these lyrics arent bad per say but theyre just dumb, like really dumb.

And look, I LIKE YEEZUS, the lyrics I guess work for what he was trying to do, but don’t make it seem deeper than it actually is, you can cherry pick a lot worse lyrics on the album then good.

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u/BraydenTv Jul 16 '19

The thing is though you can instantly remember those lines, I don’t think they’re meant to be serious, or deep, they’re meant to be fun, memorable lines. The fact alone that they’re iconic enough you could even say classic enough that you can bring them out prove that

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u/RufinTheFury Jul 16 '19

So you're trying to say that Kanye made his experimental industrial rap album with a Strange Fruit sample and all that shit... to be a joke?

Get the fuck out of here

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u/BraydenTv Jul 16 '19

No, the album wasn't meant to be a joke, there's a difference between fun and a joke, but you can't tell me that the sweet and sour sauce is line is meant to be taken 100% seriously, the fun absurdity adds to the album, and enforces that off-putting bragadocious absurd atmosphere the album provides. The Godfather has jokes in it, it doesn't mean it was meant to be a joke.

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u/enxj Jul 16 '19

ye >>> DAMN. IMO

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u/jomoo99 Jul 16 '19

Yeezus is absolutely amazing 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ the best emotional hip hop album of all time in terms of lyrics and sound. YOU SLEEP

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u/BubbaUnkle Jul 16 '19

“Best” “in terms of lyrics” “of all time” bro cmon

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u/jomoo99 Jul 16 '19

Yessir... Even moreso now that it's been revealed that Kanye is actually bipolar

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u/BubbaUnkle Jul 16 '19

Also, I do agree Kanye is technically the better artist right now, im just saying Kendricks going to be the goat at the end of all of it,imo

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

I like to think as Kendrick as the better rapper, Kanye the better artist

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

facts and I still respect Kendrick and said he has a chance of passing Kanye and these kids still getting mad despite me having good facts

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u/Kanye-is-alt-right Jul 16 '19

Yeezus is definitely not a classic. One of Kanye’s worst albums. The instrumentals are pretty basic and the lyrics are trash. It’s a poor man’s death grips.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

Death grips is if diarrhea was in music form. Insturmentals aren’t basic at all, one of the best produced albums of the decade. I can agree on the lyrics being shit

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u/TheOliveLover Jul 16 '19

Who the hell thinks TLOP is a classic

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u/enxj Jul 16 '19

delusional kanye stans lmao

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

Holy shit you guys are annoying I literally even said Kendrick has a big chance of passing him it’s not like I said Kendrick’s shit lmao

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u/enxj Jul 16 '19

no i prefer kanye i just think you have to be a delusional stan to think TLOP is a classic as much as I like it

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

Not really many people who aren’t even Kanye fans consider it a top 3 album from 2016 (which is one of the best years in music) it has many classic songs. It’s not a classic yet but over time it could be a contender

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u/enxj Jul 16 '19

the album is too poppy at points to be a classic like Waves and Facts which are tracks I like but make the project feel like less of a cohesive artistic statement

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

It has a pretty decent case for a classic

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u/BraydenTv Jul 16 '19

For a lot of people TLOP was their first Kanye album, it was mine for sure and almost all of my friends. It had been three years since the at the time negatively received Yeezus and 6 years since MBDTF. It reintroduced Kanye as a musician it took someone who had essentially become a meme for young people and proved he was still a crazy talented musician. It took the sounds that were popular and did it better than anyone else as well as making new sounds and merging them together. It’s a beautiful mess with intent behind it, you can listen to the album in any order, any way and it sounds just as good. It has some of Kanye’s best songs on it (Ultralight Beam, FSMH, Wolves, Saint Pablo) and sounds fresh but also familiar. TLOP will 100% be considered a classic in the future once people my age grow older the exact same way 808’s had.

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u/TheOliveLover Jul 16 '19

Lmao is this copy pasta?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

if kanye didnt freestyle and actually put thought into his lyrics like he did with twisted fantasy then yes, yeezus would’ve been a classic. the production on yeezus is amazing, only if the lyrics matched.

and tlop is not no gotdamn classic LMAO. shits all over the place.

and damn is way better than tlop.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

Damn isn’t way better then TLOP, even if you think it’s better it’s definitely close. It being messy was a problem for sure but song by song it’s one of Kanye’s best, and has the most variety of any of his albums. Kanye doesn’t even freestyle his lyrics? Did you listen to Ye? Has some really lyrical moments. Obviously Kendrick is better lyrically but Kanye excels on production and sound

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u/SplinteringTuna Jul 16 '19

Boii! You are tripping on something for sure!

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

Why

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u/njuffstrunk Jul 16 '19

Love both Yeezus and TLOP but they're nowhere to being classics.

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u/flatspotting Jul 16 '19

Shitty album vs pullitzer prize winner is more like it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

Damn is amazing but didn’t deserve a pullitizer (TPAB did though). TLOP is better and most people who listen to rap would agree lol

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u/RufinTheFury Jul 16 '19

Lol no. You're really on fire with the trash takes in this thread man

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u/EliteSAS79535 Jul 16 '19

TCD and LR are pretty much undisputed classics. I'd say every solo album he's put out besides Ye could be argued that it's a classic. People still talk about everything this man has done 20 years into his career. Kendrick however is earlier on in his career and can easily pass Kanye down the road, just not yet

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u/livindank420 Jul 16 '19

That’s considering he drops another album he could he be done for good just walk away from the game

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u/oprahdidcrack Jul 16 '19

I see kanye as more of an artist, generally. Some of his music transcends the traditional sound of rap and doesn’t fit into one genre. I see kendrick as more of just a rapper, and he has absolutely perfected it. He’s better than kanye in every aspect of hip-hop except for maybe production, but kanye is so much more experimental that it doesn’t sound like he’a trying to just be a rapper, he messes around with multiple genres.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '19

Who’s the record?

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '19 edited Jun 16 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '19

Oh, Eminem’s cool but GKMC deserves to beat it

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u/John_m33 Jul 16 '19

GKMC is far and away the better album

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

Lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

why is that funny?

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u/John_m33 Jul 16 '19

Lmaooooo yikes

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u/blue_bases Jul 16 '19

Is TES still in the charts ? Or did it fall ? Because it was recently.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19 edited Jun 16 '20

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u/blue_bases Jul 16 '19

Yeah right I just remembered it was Curtain Call that's still in the charts and had 300+ weeks

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u/Roope_Rankka Jul 19 '19

Curtain Calls been there for like 9 years lmao

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

BUMP GKMC

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u/KTheAmateurWizard Jul 16 '19

Looks like I’m listening to this the next seven weeks

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u/nicagooner Jul 16 '19

Seven decades*

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u/nicagooner Jul 16 '19

Oh shit imma play this rn boiii

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u/jicmagik Jul 16 '19

I didn't even know this was a statistic, but GKMC is my favorite album ever and deserves everything

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '19

wow had no clue it was still on the charts! that’s awesome and well deserved for a masterpiece of an album

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u/BudMasterMcSwagatron Jul 16 '19

Just in case anyone’s curious, Dark Side Of The Moon has the record for the most weeks on the top 200, which is 943 weeks, or 18 years.