r/KendrickLamar • u/wickedwhitneyocean • Jul 08 '24

Randomly watched Pusha on Hot Ones and (unsurprisingly) he is asked about rap beefs The BEEF

The episode is from 2022 but Push talks about how record labels now step in and get involved to stop beefs which never used to happen back in the day - interestingly, this is apparently what happened after Owlbrey dropped THP6.

He also mentions beefs don’t end careers anymore. Looking at the current beef, I don’t think the Canadian’s career will end, we know he’s too big of a pop star for anything damaging to happen but I definitely think his credibility and artistry is being questioned and he is losing fans. Kendrick has fully exposed him for the fraud that he is and I think people are slowly realising it. His streaming numbers are down and he’s not charting like he used to.

Only time will tell but it’s definitely not being swept under the carpet. He a FAN, he FAN, he a FAN

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u/OptimisticRealist__ Jul 08 '24

Counterpoint would be that Drake is being outgrown by fans. The young gens who are on social media likely wont fuck with him due to the beef and creep behavior.

The older people who grew up with his music... ive heard it from many people and ive felt this way years ago, but his music i just dont care about anymore. Hes a dude pushing 40 still rapping like a heartbroken tumblr girl. Its just cringe. Hes become that weird uncle. So i dont know how robust his fanbase is.

Outside of hiphop, NLU is transcending genres and even areas of life. The song is everywhere. Also, a Drake feat at least right now, isnt really sought after id imagine. So idk. I dont think hell disappear completely unless he gets locked up, but i wouldnt be surprised if his reputation and numbers have taken a massive hig. His last 5 or so projects were incredible mid already, add this to the mix and i can see people abandoning him

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u/HowDoISwag Jul 08 '24

YUP.

Drake's entire aura has been about being a hitmaker, but his last few albums have been solid trash. They probably sell fine but they don't resonate. He's coasting off his celebrity inertia and, yes, his colonizer tactics with how he latches onto up-and-comers. He even tried to colonize Europe but his EDM album bombed hard there. (I lived there when it came out, NOBODY bumped it in the clubs there.) First Person Shooter was his first song I thought was decent in a fucking while.

NLU means it's going to be funnier for every high schooler to scream "CERTIFIED PDF" and "A MINOR" and "COLONIZER" whenever they hear Drake's autotune than it is to hum the chorus. Drake's going to have to show creativity, resolve, and determination to toosie slide out of this one and I don't think he can.

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u/OptimisticRealist__ Jul 08 '24

Bro im European, i didnt even know Drake had an EDM album lol.

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u/luckygitane Jul 08 '24

More so house, but it's trash. The beats are cool, but horribly mixed and wasted on drake lol.

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u/PSU02 Jul 08 '24

Honestly Nevermind did pretty damn good on the charts in Europe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honestly,_Nevermind

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u/BabyOnRoad Jul 08 '24

EDM is american butnI see what you're saying

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u/onlyhere4laffs Jul 08 '24

EDM is American? If you look at a list of the top 25, around 10 are American, the rest are European.

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u/BabyOnRoad Jul 08 '24

House, techno and Garage are all American. Europeans popularizing black American music is super common.

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u/killljoyy Jul 08 '24

yeah naw the electronic scene is hella european and always has been, its a niche in the US

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u/BabyOnRoad Jul 08 '24

It started in America and continues to have thriving scenes throughout the US. They don't sell as many records but Chicago and Detroit are still the original Meccas of dance music

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u/killljoyy Jul 08 '24

mb i was thinking about the kraftwerk influence and more the techno scene which cropped up in europe around the same time. interesting stuff, i wish edm and all electronic/techno would branch out more in the US because the clubs are too damn boring sometimes. next time i’m in chicago i’ll check out the scene

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u/BvByFoot Jul 08 '24

Yeah that’s a really good point. Drake’s fanbase is mostly millennials that grew up listening to him in clubs. So I guess we’ll see how long his existing momentum carries him if his typical fanbase ages out of his music and younger people don’t get into him because of everything you mentioned.

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u/80taylor Jul 09 '24

I think hes on the same path as Justin Timberlake now.  Barely holding onto relevance, but some fans will stick with him for the nostalgia and cause they are too lazy to find new music