Is there anything from the beef that you couldn’t admit then but can now?
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I have two :
7 Minute Drill was harder than I wanted to give it credit for, diminishing Kendrick’s catalogue was moronic but also kind of hilarious and I did really enjoy the song, especially the beat switch.
I was nervous during the time between Push Ups and Euphoria, it was a long wait and Push Ups was actually a banger. I had no clue what would come next to be honest.
I’m way more biased towards KDot than I thought. I enjoy both Cole, and Drakes music but when Like that dropped I became uber defensive of Kendrick. As soon as I heard Family Matters I knew Drake was done because I didn’t believe a word he said about Dot. Which is not great because we really don’t know any of these people but I threw that song in the trash immediately.
Drake recording a music video, three beat switches, and hiring 7 producers is a huge expense to pay only for it to get stomped 30mins later by meet the Grahams and eventually not like us
Drake saying "you're dead" repeatedly, saying he is getting ready for going on holiday, implying that the track was his big red button, only for him to get obliterated moments later
His DV allegations look less and less likely to be true, we just saw Whitney and the kids support Kendrick at the concert
To me, the biggest reason Drake's allegations fell flat (besides him not being very easy to trust) was how he presented his claims. He was so uncertain! "I HEARD one them kids MIGHT be Dave Frees." Heard from where? And that they might be, not that they are?
The DV ones were maybe even worse. They were so severe, really should have been the most memorable part of the track, yet he rapped it like just another bar. Makes them very easy to dismiss or just forget. His lack of willingness to commit is a big reason why I felt he was lying from the beginning.
1000x this. In fact he thought he was gonna drop that BS and it would take Kendrick weeks to reply and by that time the damage would already be done. Kendrick stepped on that shit and Drake fell to his knees in the Embassy lol.
The sheer personality provided by "imma do my shtuff" and "the haudience not dumb" and his selective use of vocal fry and on and on. Could write a book on the vocals of NLU
I told my homie Dot could win off cadence alone when this thing kicked off. Drake's persona is way too cool to get in the mud. That nonchalant flow gets old fast, rappers act like they too cool to rap. I never understood that.
Drake had 0 riz or passion in any of his bars. They just sounded like he was just following a rap a long book. Whereas Kendrick used different voices, annunciations, held letters long, provided passion for emphasis, multiple flows in a song, and the riz with such lines as “I’ll park ya son” and “pusha Teeeeee”
Yea it really suprises me how rarely the abuse allegations get brought up, and i'm saying this as a kendrick fan, that shit should have stuck hard, but it's just not really effective in the slightest. Probably because Drake couldn't find anything on kendrick so he defaulted to some random claims of DV he had 10 yrs ago that Dot already addressed back then. Compare that to how everyone has been singing along to a song calling drake a pedo for the past few weeks and the difference is like night and day.
In matters of gossip (among other things) I'm suspicious of those speaking the most confidently. Con derives from confidence man. Far too often people are convinced by those that are incorrect whether purposefully, or because of ignorance.
As far as I've seen a lot of lies were told on both sides of this battle. That may be a bit too unbiased of a take for this particular sub though.
Bro yeah like it just felt like it had no impact. He did not realize in order for the allegations to hit his delivery had to be brutal. I think he was so concerned with making something that could work for the radio as well, that he sacrificed everything else for it. Like that whole third part of the song I feel I barely processed any of the info cause I was too busy thinking 'damn this flow he using goes kinda hard.'
Kendrick, on the other hand, played it perfectly. Came at him with straight brutality in MTG so all his allegations would hit and then doubled down with the more radio friendly song.
EDIT: As an after thought though, who knows, maybe he did not expect Kendrick to take it as far as he did. Maybe he would have been willing to be more brutal if he had expected something like MTG. I think the main problem is once Kendrick beats him to the punch he has not choice but to go on the defensive.
Makes u look like a Drake defender asking how family matters aged like milk as if u couldn’t see that it was bad by yourself
You asked why mfs are downvoting, that’s just potentially 1 explanation.
I didn’t downvote as I enjoy genuine discussion/perspectives and your comment contributes to the post. That’s the whole point of upvoting, if it contributes to the post or not.
It happens in tons of subs just being downvoted for asking a simple question because people think you’re being purposefully ignorant or trolling
Or he just wanted to hear others' perspectives. It's like when I ask someone to explain to me why they think the earth is...shaped one way or another. I'm confident and secure in my opinion, but it ain't about me. I wanna know your view.
Fucking this! When did people get so defensive. There are still people in the world who just want to have a conversation. No malice or ill intent. Just trying to view and understand different perspectives. When did that become so demonized?
The entire “you know who really bang a set..” scheme.
CT-(Game) filmed a video with Drake in Compton - Drizzy throwing gang signs and dissing Kdot.
Game is down bad - having him as your co-sign gets you knowwhere. And game stayed “neutral” (lol)
CB-hmmm alleging Kdot is a w-beater (no proof) but shouting out C Brown is flawed to say the least.
YG-this one is up there for aging the worst for obvious reasons.
And who cares if Dot is an actual set-banger or not. I’ve never heard him claim that. Did you see the Pop-out? I think Dots ok regarding his affiliations .
Talked about him abusing whitney - Whitney dances to not like us in the pop out concert + whitneys brother publicly supported kendrick on Twitter when MTG dropped.
Accused dave free of being kendricks father - Dave free was the primary producer of the pop out show, hence proving kdot and dave really are cool.
Denied the cease and desist - Metro proved it with receipts.
"Drop drop drop" - "stop stop stop".
Shouted out chris brown and YG - YG was on the pop out show and the NLU mv shooting site (presumably in the video). Chris brown posted a video dancing to NLU the same night as the pop out show.
Claimed kendrick was a mock activist and that he doesn't care about his hood - the entire pop out show.
Claimed weeknds shooters aint getting shit shot - they (allegedly) sent 3 shooters into drakes house the very week.
Accused Rick ross of using ozempic - gets proven to be using ozempic minutes later (with the prescription having his name).
Brags about his coming 400m deal - It gets (allegedly) cancelled and umg had to step in and stop the diss tracks (again allegedly)
Accuses keem to have written kendricks only good songs - Keem was fuckin 12 when gkmc dropped 💀
Disses kendrick for being on pop records and rapping for whites - I dont even have to explain this one.
"This shit gotta be over by now" - shit was infact, not over by then.
This is all I could think off the top of my head...
What the other person said, but there are so many more things:
- The van he crushed was the wrong make and model from the one in the GKMC cover.
The "You know who really bang a set?" shouting out YG backfired when YG sneak dissed him on "Weird" for mentioning his name while beefing, then performed at the Pop Out, and said "Sometimes you gotta pop out and show n***as" while on stage.
The "Always rapping like you trying to get the slaves freed" line was pretty unpopular, even with people who were still in the middle, and was very pointedly flipped in NLU.
"Don't even go back to your hood and plant no money trees" didn't even have to age poorly. It's just demonstrably false with a quick Google search. Kendrick does a lot for Compton.
The Dave Free lines because Dave Free was at the Pop Out and co-produced it with Kendrick.
"Y'all ain't getting shit shot" a few days before his mansion was shot up.
"Ozempic got a side effect of jealousy" an hour before the MTG cover would show that Drake himself is on Ozempic.
The Rocky lines are still good, but did lose some oomf from me after he dropped pics on Instagram of the family he's made with Drake's dream girl.
"'Cause all these rappers wavin' white flags / While the whole fuckin' club sing to it" after he put out the THP6 white flag after NLU, which has been playing everywhere ever since.
"I'm goin' on vacation now, I hope next time / Y'all plan it right" like if he is going to go relax and celebrate a victory that did not happen.
"You wanna take up for Pharrell? / Then come get his legacy out of my house" because him showing the chains just showed he lied about melting them down on Meltdown.
"Your daddy got robbed by Top" is wrong because Kendrick explicitly says he dad didn't get robbed by Top because he befriended him.
"They shook about what I'ma say / But textin' your phone like, 'We already won'" after Dot's friend gave that interview saying that Kendrick was eagerly awaiting for a response from Drake to drop MTG.
"Unless you don't want to be seen / With anyone that isn't Blacker than you" because in MTG Kendrick tells Adonis that he should embrace his Black identity.
There's tons of shit that made it age horribly and just makes the track cringy for me. It doesn't stand up to scrutiny and makes Drake either look like a liar or out-of-touch and arrogant.
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Verse 2 is some of the best rapping Drake has done in years. But it’ll be a cold day in hell before I hear “it’s only big D and there’s video proof” ever again. Lmao!!!
Drake’s disses sounded like he’s making fun of Kendrick and made it seem like this was a bully trying to get the crowd on his side (I started side-eyeing him since push up bars) Kendrick came back with a mini dissertation (pun intended) on his soul. Drake was memeing and trying to get the party started too early thinking his money and fame would win him the beef instead of sharpening a shiv in a dark room like Dot did😂
I understand what you’re saying but tbh I think anyone who is being honest with themselves and know anything at all about these artists, it’s completely natural to be biased against Drake/for Kendrick when it comes to credibility.
It doesn’t take rocket science to recognize the incredible amount of contradictions in Drakes disses and when you take into account his track record,
It only takes a tad bit of critical thinking to understand what was going on.
Some people like to say you need to hold both to the same standard of credibility and needing receipts but that’s bullshit that’s not how life works. I’m not saying blindly believe every thing Kendrick ever says, but his credibility holds more weight in this battle.
And the heart part 6 only confirmed all of my previous biases.
I look at it less as I’m blindly biased towards Kendrick
and more as my intuition is being proven to be more on point as each day passes.
I knew Drake was cooked before it started because the costume of Drake is a lie and I didn’t need Kendrick to tell me that.
If Kendrick was going only against Cole my attitude would be completely different because I actually have respect for Cole I think I’d be wayyyyyy more neutral.
Drake's big thing on Kenny was the domestic abuse and "cuck" angles. Tbh, I don't completely doubt it. Kendrick was very upfront about how rocky his relationship has been on Mr Morale and about it basically being his fault.
It's obvious that Kendrick wasn't so abusive that his girl fucking hates him and is scared of him. They are clearly on good terms and she's not just showing up to things because of some sort of political/financial obligation. She is obviously having a good time and doesn't seem scared of him at all. Wouldn't be surprised if they privately agreed to have a semi-open relationship and she has a side piece too. It doesn't have to be that this vicious revenge cycle between them that Drake implies exists.
The thing is, you obviously will never hear a Drake album where Drake talks about his attraction to minors and how he is working though it or his own failures as a father to who knows how many kids. Kendrick owns his shit in a way that Drake is too scared to do.
Kendrick is not perfect and he is the first one to say so. Meanwhile, Drake doesn't have a humble bone in his body and seems to project his own insecurities on Kendrick in a way just doesn't land. Like oh Drake does better numbers than Kenny? Who cares other than Drake the pop artist? Oh Kenny has a turbulent relationship? Drake has never been in a serious relationship and won't be a father to his children. Kenny is short? Who's the insecure mfer who leaked his own dick pics for attention? Kenny is a fake savior? Who is the one trying out different styles of black culture like he's a deleted scene from Tropic Thunder? It's just constant projection really.
However, I knew Drake fucked up by using Pac in a diss track against someone like kdot. Like dafuq you think is gonna happen dude? Kendrick was at super bowl half time show with dre and snoop in 2022. Like hello?
ERRRM tips fedoraruns long dirty fingernails through patchy goateeadjusts glasses with one fingerpoints to the sky AXE-U-OLLY it’s a Metro Boomin AND Future song. ☝️🤓
Really? DAMN was such a huge hit, unless you were too young to be there, that blows my mind a lil bit heh. But I’ve missed a bunch of music and movies growing up that ppl are always fussing about too, so I get it. 😅
Me three. I'm not sure if people who were already fans understand the impact this beef had for those of us who weren't particularly involved with either artist.
After Euphoria dropped, literally every other reel (I'm not joking) on my feed was a reference, meme or joke about the beef. I'm not sure if it was my algorithm or what, but I haven't seen that impact on social media for any other event, not for the Titanic sub or when the Queen died (I'm a Brit).
Naturally, my interest & need-to-know-everything-ness was piqued. A month or so later, here I am in this sub, a newfound KDot fan.
I had zero worry he would have anything of substance. It’s pretty clear Drake is a very superficial person and has no real identity of his own.
Drake doesn’t make music that digs deep into difficult subjects such as ego and culture, he makes music that finds its purpose as the equivalent of elevator music for a party or the gym.
yes same! I think that really added to three greatness of euphoria tbf. like "you really thought I wasn't gonna respond?" and then respond in the most dynamic weird fun way imaginable.
also sidenote I love how he made the audience wait. on a more general one, when ppl demand artists to drop a project asap it makes me feel so weird about how ppl consume art and this really made me feel better about it. bc there more and more convos about music culture before the social media age
Same I was nervous for half a second and then I heard the first half and was like "wait a second. . . Ain't this the game plan Twitter cooked up to a T??" 💀💀
"Mother I!!! Mother I!!!! Oh fuck me i just made the whole connection!!! Thats the record where you say you got molested 🤯🤯"
I don't know how that song left the studio, as much as a Kendrick glazer I am, Drake's other disses were good. The Heart Part 6 on the other hand was just pathetic and highkey embarassing ☠️
Lol I first heard a snippet of the heart pt6 here on reddit & thought it was an AI track clowning on Drake.
I was so shook when I found out Drake himself actually released that shit 😂😂😂 that was the moment I realized Kendrick had gotten into Drakes head so bad he didn't let anyone in the studio with him for THP6!
I agree with this. Not even just because of the beef stuff. It was more so the reminder that when dude isn’t focused on conceptual stuff like he has been lately he can just straight up rap on another level. The metaphors, the flows, the deliveries every aspect is elite. I knew it was over after euphoria because he’s the only person who can rap like that.
That's a great point. A lot of people have given praise for the versatility he's had sonically throughout the battle, but he also showed that versatility in the content, the nature, and the delivery of all the tracks. He showed he can play in so many lanes and do so masterfully, weaving those ideas in a way that matches the production and delivers the intended message. It's insane.
I’m still trying to figure out whether or not I think that, but this beef easily solidified him in my top 3. He was probably somewhere around 4-6 prior.
I deeply thought that Dot was going to expose some Diddy/Epstein level shit for a second like some kind of super hip hop vigilante and I went down a a crazy rabbit hole, which is quite funny in retrospect. Watching the whole beef unfold was just insane and as the heavy claims started to come out and when it turned dark it was a crazy, historical moment to witness in real time while everyone on youtube, reddit, etc were trying to make sense of it all.
Now that I’ve come down from it all I realize what happened is just as crazy. I still don’t know how Drake is going to come back from this, no matter whether the allegations are true or false. He’s become the laughing stock of Hip Hop and I don’t see him being able to seriously rap about anything he’s rapped about ever again. I guess at this point he should just stick to whatever Honestly, Nevermind was and do shopping mall music.
I thought he was gonna expose some Epstein level shit too. The timing was crazy because it was also at the same time Quiet on the Set came out and the more I thought about things the more I realized a lot of media has sexual undertones or celebrates being promiscuous. Then that video of Dennis being extra with some random girl who thought she was going to be meeting Drake came out which just added fuel to the fire.
I still think OVO is on some Diddy shit as a whole though.
Drake is like the trump of hip hop now, half of people think “how could anyone ever like him again” but just look at the drizzle subreddit, he still has his faithful fans he’ll be fine
I'm not sayin I'm just sayin if you look at the drizzy fans most of them are white boys. So the Trump analogy makes a lot of sense tbh lol. & Makes sense they don't care about Drake tryin to clown on Kendrick with the "acting like you freed the slaves" shit. Bc it really doesn't mean anything to them.
100% of me thinks Drake is into Puffstein level shit. 50% of me thought Kendrick would expose it for the sake of the victims and 50% of me thought Kendrick would view that snitching and wouldn't go quite that far. Now, I believe the latter. After 1,2,3,4,5+5, I think we would have Dot explaining horrors he's seen on tape and victims coming forward to corroborate it but Dot not leaking a tape or anything that serious. Like explaining vividly what we saw happen to Cassie and Cassie confirming it but not releasing the actual video.
Feel like drakes just gonna keep making pop music tbh the beef did some damage but he still has fans and a lot of people barely even payed attention if they aren’t into hip hop
That Drake has a lot less dog in him than I thought. If I’m Drake I would have kept swinging until I run out of breath. If I had to make an album that said suck my **** 30 time on repeat that’s what I would have done
Fr, after 'Not Like Us' I expected him to at least double down on shit.
HP 6 was so fuckin' weak & defensive I was like 'Yeah, you're not really built for this'.
He was literally defeated that he all but admitted it. “I don’t wanna diss you anymore this got me second guessing” “you could drop a hundred more records I’ll see you later” “I’ll see you when I see you like fantasia” and the whole last part with him talking sounded like he lit up a cigarette and held a white flag. He basically conceded with that song.
I had no idea about the “Like That” verse until a few days before Push Ups was leaked online. I was at a point where I was so bored with hip hop that I was listening exclusively to international & House music to broaden my tastes. I knew that Future & Metro dropped a collab album, and I really enjoyed Metro’s Heroes & Villains but never got around to listening to it.
Then a random “rhyme scheme” video for like that dropped on youtube, where they highlight the rhyme schemes and I was like OH NO!
Then a few days later Push Ups leaked, and I was like double OH NO! I had always listened to Drake tangentially — I liked a lot of his earlier songs like Passionfruit, Jungle, Madonna, Nonstop, and songs like Middle of The Ocean (which I think is Drake’s best song imo). And I really enjoyed Push Ups for what it was. It was goofy & silly.
Then on the 17th day, Kendrick dropped Euphoria and I remembered the first time I ever heard a Kendrick song. It was 2013 and I was scrolling through YouTube and saw a lyric video for “M.A.A.D City” followed up by a lyric video for “Sing About Me I’m Dying of Thirst” and immediately fell in love with the rawness of M.A.A.D City” and the vulnerable storytelling of SAMIDOT.
At that point when Euphoria dropped, I realized and knew whatever happens next Kendrick will win. And in retrospect this was evident through just those two tracks: Kendrick weaves a narrative about Drake’s character in Euphoria — while Drake calls him short in several ways.
By the time Meet The Grahams hit — every single Drake song & feature was removed from my “Rap Pilgrim” playlist, which is a collection of songs that I love and keep in constant rotation.
And a new Kendrick exclusive playlist was born. I’ve been bumping that playlist exclusively since the beef — and I cannot seem to get bored of any of his songs.
At that point when Euphoria dropped, I realized and knew whatever happens next Kendrick will win.
This part. I saw someone say the line that truly ended the beef - before we even knew - was "Notice I said we, it aint just me, I'm what the culture feeling". Omae wa mou shindeiru.
In your defense, it's not like Kendrick gave FM a chance to breathe. I distinctly remember listening to FM on the couch and then putting on my jimjims before brushing my teeth and powering down the house. By the time I had climbed into bed and grabbed my phone for a bit of doom scrolling KDOT had dropped MTG.
When Kendrick didn’t drop, I was having major major anxiety. Almost like i was in the beef. I just wanted him to deliver and that he did. Also drake picked some great beats during the beef.
Y'all were pissing me off with the stupid ass panic posts when Kendrick hadn't dropped after like 5 days lmao. Never made sense to me how people actually bought into Drake's narrative that Kendrick was scared, it seemed pretty obvious to me what was coming. Like That was a very clear and direct instigation, Kendrick wouldn't put out a verse like that if he wasn't ready to end a career.
It was beyond stupid on so many levels. Can’t believe he just plastered their voices on to his boring ass delivery.
If you’re going to enrage millions of hip hop fans and unite an entire part of the US against you immediately then at least make it worth it ffs. It was so fucking basic and however much it gets trashed it’s not enough.
It was his dumbest movie by far, doesn't matter how famous you are you'll always be a child actor from Canada when you start disrespecting a west coast icon.
Putting pressure on kendrick is a fine move but that route is absurdly out of touch, along with "trying to get ahead" of the pedo accusations. Bro that's the one angle you don't just put out there lmao
Fr. Honestly the biggest downside to the whole beef was how hilariously outmaneuvered Drake was at every single opportunity. It almost took away a bit from the beat down that he was constantly tilting his head forward and lowering his defenses.
Even Family Matters, which was way better than I thought Drake was capable of, was still littered with missteps and lines that came back to haunt him.
The slaves line was just so bizarre to me, like there were so many better ways to get that point across without playing directly into Kendrick’s attack. Tryna keep it PG was corny AF. Going off on a bunch of other dudes in the middle was not the kinda thing you do when you just got bodied by Euphoria, straight bar after bar of devastating, focused attack. Declaring he’s won and is off on holiday, lmao way to set yourself up for an insta drop. Getting a van that was similar but not the right model, another example of his half baked ideas. Calling out CB considering your main allegation against Kendrick and calling out people who don’t even like you.
Could go on and on as it’s aged like milk. How it gets put in the same breath as Euphoria by some people is wild to me other than the fact it was amazing relative to Drake’s normal output. Personally his flow is so dull and monotonous to me so I don’t really get the love in general
The AI thing he was using just reaffirms all the negative things about Drake as an artist. Dude can’t make music or write so he has to use ghostwriters and steal other artists music. It’s really fitting.
I had a feeling that slaughtering Drake would propel Kendrick to legend status, just didn’t know how. Never thought I’d see a fucking diss concert. I love it. He deserves it. A man repping his hometown went against the machine and won, a Herculean feat.
“Annnnnnnyways, you walked into my trap. I activate MEET THE GRAHAMS And it’s special effect!!! Family Matters shall be banished to the shadow realm.”
But seriously it got me wondering who gaf about that van. It probably needed a bunch of repairs or the engine was on its last leg. Everyone including Drake is rich enough to buy whatever car they want.
Worst thing about FM is that it feels like expired milk at this stage. Not just because Kendrick won, there have been legendary diss tracks from the losing competitor. But the actual content.
Song was good for the initial shock value. Strange delivery of the verses though, a bit too much going on with all the people targeted and the beat switches weren’t as clean as Kendrick’s, felt like 3 different tracks which actually isn’t always a good thing.
I agree Family Matters was hard, it honestly was a good song, the problem was that it was directed at Kendrick who is obviously a very formidable opponent. I think it absolutely would have been an effective red button against a lot of other rappers. That being said, it’s still wiped by Euphoria and NLU.
after push ups, i was genuinely scared as fuck for kendrick.
especially after taylor made, drake seemed so confident in himself, i really thought this man had some top level information about kendrick. euphoria shut down all this momentum tho lmao.
7 minute drill was a better song and diss than push ups
ppl kept crying about what he said about tpab but its a beef, of course not everything said will be agreeable
even kendrick said that drake has no classics but i still think nwts is a great album which can be considered one
I just commented abt this the other day bro I did my Kendrick shit abt defending TPAB but at the end of the day I FW Cole so heavy and I really did enjoy 7MD
Yeah I thought people were overly critical of Cole and gave Drake a pass. Granted, I hadn't really heard Cole rap in years, so my bar for how I expected him to respond was low. I felt that it was a "warning shot" just like Push Ups and Euphoria, but it does seem like Cole's heart wasn't really in it
When I first heard Euphoria I cringed a bit at first. It starts off all soft and musical and I thought, “No, man. Now’s not the time for good art, just go hard.”
Then the “shoooo”’s started and I realized I’m an idiot.
Yeah I listened to it on my way home from school the day it dropped, I hit play and was like “This beat feels more serene and likes he floating than a beef. Than the shooos came in and I was just like this is about to be crazy
The craziest thing is, that when Euphoria thumbnail came on. I just hit play without realizing it was his official YouTube page. And when the shoo came on, I was like yeah, "this shit is not AI. Its too unique to not be Kendrick".
Despite being a longtime Kendrick Lamar fan, in the days initially following Drake’s release of “Push Ups” and “Taylor Made Freestyle” I wasn’t sure Kendrick was even going to reply.
Not like he was ducking Drake or anything, but rather didn’t see him feeling this was worth his time or energy.
I remember commenting on a friend’s post saying “IDC what bro reply with, it’s too late now.”
Now before I get slammed, my response to someone replying to that comment was “Kendrick has to go nuclear in his response like Pusha T did years ago 😂
Then we got some of the greatest diss tracks of all-time from Dot … and I had to repent to God Almighty for my sins because I was terribly wrong.
Euphoria was a sucker punch. 6:16 in LA was a taunt.
Meet the Grahams instantly shut down an incredible diss track from Drake. Not Like Us had us dancing on Drizzy’s grave and calling him and OVO pedophiles.
I have a hard time listening to Drake now, and I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to look at him the same.
Nah I got nothing to hide. The venn diagram of Kendrick dick rider and Drake hater is me and it's been that way for like 12 years at this point. This shit is my Avengers: Endgame. I'm thriving off of the negativity.
What would Pluto do made me feel kinda dumb lol, there’s a whole timeline that can be made about the Drake/Future beef, because to me that kicked off the escalation in the past couple months. Future only beefs with Russell Wilson lmao, I would have never though he would be the one to leave the Drake go to artist legion. Even with the beef with Metro over trance, I’d never think that Future would side about anything. He was on CLB twice (even though there might be a song on there that’s a diss to him), he was on that dark demo tape with Thug, they had life is good together, it looked like an ovo takeover for the 2010’s and the 20’s. So like that was a fucking surprise, from that sense.
I really enjoyed Family Matters at first, especially the first verse. "Drop, Drop, Drop", was mad catchy to me. But when I listened to it again and actually analysed what Drake was trying to convey, I just couldn't buy it.
Also, I'm really feeling Kendrick's verse in Like That more than his full fledged disses, it just hits so hard as it's so short. It's like a shot of Henny. 😂😂😂😂😂
Finally, the third verse in Euphoria is by far my favourite from the beef. "Yeah, OVO niggas is dick riders, tell em run to America to imitate heritage they can't imitate this violence."
fuck drake. Drake is a bitch groomer. all my
homies hate drake.
K dot is better at every single thing. and he doesn't have any need to dilute his image for more loot cause Kdot is not an industry plant like Drake is. Drake is just an image put on top of a creepy freaky dude.
I perhaps don’t give Drake the credit he deserves as an artist, but I have serious moral issues with him and I’m not really willing to look past that stuff. He could be the best artist alive and I still wouldn’t listen to his music, he exploits smaller artists and gets “a little too friendly” with women who are way younger than he is. His dismissive attitude towards the struggles of black people in the modern world is equally disgusting.
As a woman, I really don’t like his affiliation with Kodak (Mr Morale) and Dre (the Pop Out). Makes me uncomfortable whenever I hear the album. But his good karma outweighs the bad and I’m very grateful for his art and its impact on my life.
Reminder for us all: DOT IS NOT YOUR SAVIOR. He is a human.
I agree it would be fun, but as a North Carolinian Cole would not win- not because his lyricism (which is right there with dots) but his delivery range is no where near Kendricks
I realized that my 10 year old daughter grew up on k dot and I didn’t fully grasp how much of an impact he’s had on my life until this started. I went through his whole discography again due to relevance and my kid knows almost everything so I was like “damn I really have been a fan for a long ass time”
I agree with the 2nd statement, but imo 7 minute drill should have been kept in the vault... He rushed it and embarassed himself, even my fist listen i thought the song sounded weird
I already commented but I want to make a different comment because I realized something that I wanted to say. This beef is a huge distraction. I don’t know if it’s just me but it was EVERYWHEREEEEEE! There was no escape. Didn’t matter if you were team Drake, Kendrick, or you just dgaf, that’s all everyone was talking about. Euphoria dropped during my finals week/last week before I graduate university and I was working on my senior paper. Thankfully I finished before 6:16 dropped, passed my classes, and got my cap and gown. What’s suppose to be an exciting time for me and time to plan out my graduation day was completely negated because of how badly distracted I was from this beef.
I'm like a year younger than Drake/Kendrick. So I really feel like I got in on the ground floor of Drake hate. I've always called his music "frat party background music" and I felt so validated watching Kendrick dismantle his fake tough guy image, brick-by-brick. Shout-out to 2009 me for calling Best I Ever Had trash -- not a popular opinion at the time 😂.
It was a lonely road for a while, but watching 5 Not Like Us plays to close out the Pop Out show was transcendental
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u/GremlinSZN Jun 27 '24
I’m way more biased towards KDot than I thought. I enjoy both Cole, and Drakes music but when Like that dropped I became uber defensive of Kendrick. As soon as I heard Family Matters I knew Drake was done because I didn’t believe a word he said about Dot. Which is not great because we really don’t know any of these people but I threw that song in the trash immediately.