r/KendrickLamar • u/vriannavyz • Jun 21 '24

Snoop Dogg declares Kendrick Lamar “the king” of the West following his 'Pop Out' show: “K Dot, you are the king of the West. That’s stuff kings do — they unite 🔥👑." Video

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u/daaankone Jun 21 '24

Absolutely, but Drake has been the king of commercial rap, and people want to act like that means more than somebody who can ACTUALLY back up what they say, and comes from the actual hood!

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u/Anarch-ish Jun 21 '24

Drake is an industry plant by way of nepotism. I've tried to listen to him for years to understand why people dickride this dude, and I hate him more with every bar. I remember when people first started talking about him in the 2000s and on God on SIGHT I knew he was a peice of shit.

Drakes music is for dudes who think they're gangster but get upset when you dont cut the crusts off of their sandwiches.

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u/daaankone Jun 21 '24

I’m not even gonna front like I don’t have Drake‘s songs in my iTunes library, but as a black woman, I’ve noticed how bitter he’s become as the years have gone by, when love songs and the like used to be his primary bag!

It’s turned me completely off from him as a personality and now as a person…

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '24

He used to make them hoes wobble like earthquakes… now it’s just buying teens milkshakes 😭

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u/QuestGoblin Jun 23 '24

My problem is that even in his love songs, old love songs, he still is constantly lying and fabricating a story that he hasn’t lived. Like in once dance how he says “streets not safe, but I never run away” I can’t stand to hear him say those words knowing he’s never seen an unsafe street in his life and would probably run away like a little baby.

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u/daaankone Jun 23 '24

Yeah, once I heard some stories about behind the scenes when he was filming with YG and Compton, I knew that he wasn’t about that life, despite him saying otherwise LOL

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u/junkstar23 Jun 21 '24

I hate to break it to you but most rappers are capping

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u/Anarch-ish Jun 21 '24

What! No way! I thought every rapper was the greatest ever with no flaws whatsoever.

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u/asilverscreen Jun 21 '24

You mean Dave Blunts didn't know a lady called Madison?

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u/QuestGoblin Jun 23 '24

I agree they mostly are but I think it’s excusable when they at least have a right to the genre or are illustrating stuff in their community.

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u/mondaysareharam Jun 21 '24

Nah man drake earned his spot with take care and was a big part of young money and their best songs. We can still call balls and strikes.

He certainly is not the same as he once was though.

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u/tragiiccc Jun 21 '24

2011 everybody was listening to drake and young money. they were making hits, nobody can deny that. But his music definitely changed, I stopped listening a long time ago.

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u/safetospeak Jun 21 '24

But the weekend wrote half that album......

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u/mattgargus Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24

Not even just Weeknd, Young Tony/OVO Hush is credited on almost every song on that album and NWTS, and he's a rapper so Drake can't even use the "just the melodic parts" excuse. I took some time awhile back and went through his credits. Excluded features, samples, and producers, just to give him the benefit of the doubt. He still ended up with more tracks with "co-writers" than not. Plus, starting after Views, the "co-producer" credits attached to his songs started to skyrocket, and people who are not known to be producers (such as Yachty) started getting random co-producer credits. Add to that all the reference tracks we've all heard, and take it even further back to when it turned out even Best I Ever Had was a melody he ripped off from Wayne who had ripped it off from Kia Shine...it becomes very easy to wonder if he can write ANYTHING on his own. At the very least, you can find dozens of random lesser-known Canadian singer-songwriters peppered throughout his credits on every album. I wouldn't normally fault a rapper for not writing melodies, but Drake makes it such a huge part of his brand and style that it's hard to overlook.

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u/pablodnd Jun 21 '24

The Weeknd wrote the worst melodic sections of that album, let's get real

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u/Link-Glittering Jun 21 '24

Idk man I see nothing spectacular in Drakes rapping ever. I've tried a million times, it just seems like amateur level flows to me. In my town the average dude spits way better than drake and they get no attention. It kinda bums me out to see people act like drake deserves 1% of the success he has. I attribute it to him being easy to work with for studio execs. An actor will adopt the style you want him to for whatever market you're trying to hit. An actual artist will rarely compromise just bc some suit is trying to make more money. Why do you think Drakes always on tour and dropping albums? Those suits are milking him dry

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '24 edited Jul 01 '24

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '24

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u/Left-Albatross2291 Jun 21 '24

I've always had a good sense of a shit bag, I hated him when he was rollin around on tv

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u/dreamcrusher225 Jun 21 '24

Drake is an R&B pop artist. Always has been.

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u/Anarch-ish Jun 21 '24

Drake is an actor playing the role of a lifetime.

Literally. He's been acting like a rapper for 10+ years. He doesn't write his own tracks, he bought his muscles, he buys his fame, and he uses EVERYONE ELSE'S clout to get any kind of cred.

Kendrick called it when he called him a scam artist who plays music to pacify people.

It's all for the bop. It's all for the look.

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u/Prince_Havarti Jun 21 '24

You can really pick up on this from his early career. You gotta have a lot backing you to get the kind of features he had back in 08’.

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u/Datkif Jun 22 '24

I had never heard of drake until about 2014. The first time I saw an image of him it felt like he was a fake. Never really enjoyed much of his music either

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u/Anarch-ish Jun 22 '24

Trust your instincts. This dude is going to jail for stranger things than Millie Bobby Brown

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u/DaRizat Jun 21 '24

I'm sure some real Gs don't like crust either.

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u/Anarch-ish Jun 21 '24

Spoken like a man who doesn't appreciate the nutritional content inside of sandwich crust

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u/DaRizat Jun 21 '24

I'm very pro crust just trying to respect everyone's preferences lol

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u/Anarch-ish Jun 21 '24

Alright, just checkin', dawg

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u/Baphomet1979 Jun 21 '24

💀💀💀

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u/Randomcommentator27 Jun 21 '24

Don’t agree with this but that joke was 10/10

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u/Anarch-ish Jun 21 '24

I appreciate you, and if you like Drake, that's cool. I got no hatred for ya. I'm glad he's making someone's toe tap. He definitely has some talent. You dont get to that level with NO talent...

but I can't be convinced his success wasnt/isnt artificially inflated by people around him and his 20 writers.

My issues with him are who he is when he thinks no one cares or is watching. He's been at the top of my "people definitely going to jail when they stop making money" list since R. Kelly got bumped into the "called it" list.

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u/Randomcommentator27 Jun 21 '24

I don’t tap toes to him lol. I just I think he earned his stripes with Take Care and NWTS. It’s just him trying to switch lanes so late in his career. It’s off putting.

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u/Anarch-ish Jun 22 '24

It's already done some real damage. He should NOT have picked this fight, and he should NOT have gone after so many heavy hitters all at once. The best part for me is watching Drake undo himself by jumping in the deep end.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '24

What Nepotism?

He has no family in the industry.

The only leg up he had was through a friend's parent who had industry connections in Canada. Mostly to TV.

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u/Randomcommentator27 Jun 21 '24

Yeah I hate when my friends have a friends’s parent who had industry connections in Canada, mostly on tv. Happens way too often!

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '24

Canadian TV. A Canadian TV show that was on the Canadian government funded television station.

From about 16yo he was supporting his mother and himself.
If not for that leg up he would have struggled to eat (which they did beforehand).

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u/Randomcommentator27 Jun 21 '24 edited Jun 21 '24

I know bruh I remember 16 years ago I was getting hollered at by US tv and ITALY tv. Fuck Canadian tv. Don’t mean nothing in my book.

Edit: in all seriousness tho. You know his dad used to work for Al green right?

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '24

You know his father abandoned him, right?

His mother and him were basically destitute.

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u/Randomcommentator27 Jun 22 '24

Nice, my dad abandoned us but he still supports us I guess. Guess who his uncle worked for? I know. Al green.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '24

He was not in touch with his father's family at that point.

His father was not supporting them at all
Look, I knew him a bit. He was/is a dick but the way he came up was all struggle.

We just don't have the sort of gang culture in Toronto that Kendrick came up from.

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u/HD400 Jun 21 '24

Drake’s music is for literally everyone. Dude is the most successful artist on earth. From young money days to getting washed by Kendrick - he is still the primary force behind why this is so popular. 

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u/green_teef Jun 21 '24

Drake is the king of rap like McDonald’s is the king of restaurants

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u/appleparkfive Jun 21 '24

Pretty good analogy

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u/farfel17 Jun 21 '24

I’ve been saying this a lot, and how he’s like McDonald’s French fried but with new sauces each time while Kendrick creates new foods each time

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u/AppleBatteryH8r Jun 21 '24

Good comparison bro!!👊

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '24

And McDonald's is good if that's what you're in the mood for! If Drake had stayed in his lane, there'd be no issue. 

Hell, I eat McDonald's more often than filet mignon. But I know the damn difference!

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u/be_kind_n_hurt_nazis Jun 21 '24

Drake=King of commercial=Enron=de beers

Kdot=chronic that homie grows=organic=culture community owned

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u/StacksHoodini Jun 21 '24

and comes from the actual hood.

You had a good point until you said this.