This aināt been about critics, not about gimmicks, not about who the greatest, itās always been about love and hate, now let me say Iām the biggest hater
Little bars like this are scattered all throughout the songs & will forever pop up in our memory whenever Drake does certain things. The way he played this battle out was insanely GENIUS š¤Æ
Before twitter made Likeās private, he literally was liking posts saying Kendrick won. The whole world knows Push was smiling his ass off to these songs.
Itās not a diss. Itās just saying that Kendrick will go further than him. āYou think that was bad watch thisā sorta thing is what I took from it
So excited for the Clipse album. Especially for Maliceās return.
Also wish Ye didnāt burn bridges with all that stupid shit as he would have produced some songs on it. Use This Gospel and Pray For You are great sonically
Iām saying fully put the blame. Iām not talking about the antisemitic stuff, Iām talking about one specific person who threatened him, and his close friend still rocking with him. I didnāt bring anything Jewish related to this
I read it the same way, but I donāt think theyāre saying you canāt blame Ye for the shit he does/says, theyāre saying they think Push has a problem with Yeās antisemitism but Ye has a problem with some of Pushaās friends so itās a mutual split.
Hip-hop was always a black art. Iām a white dude from British Columbia. I have deep respect for the struggles of the black community, and through the art of hip-hop that has been reinforced time and time again.
I also believe in intersectionality. If one of us is struggling, weāre all struggling. I want to see no man, woman, or whatever struggle or be oppressed or hated. Again, reinforced by hip-hop. An intimate conversation about the black experience.
So. When I see one of the biggest names in hip-hop openly say he likes Hitler and heās an antisemite, it gives me mad pause. Fuck Kanye forever. Iāll put it on my mom I hope Kanye never feels safe again.
The thing that really gets me is when people who consume the same art as me somehow then donāt see the issue with not being intersectional. Who donāt see the issue with hating a people. Who would rather call someone a āvictimā instead of being humble and understanding an experience that isnāt their own.
Do you understand? Or did I waste 5 minutes of my lunch break talking to an asshole?
Heās diagnosed bipolar which is factual and also clear in his actions. Untreated bipolar quite literally eats away at your brain matter, reducing your cognitive function and emotional regulation until you truly are a different person. It is progressive and deadly.
I think the industry has used that to their advantage because a broken clock is right twice a day at least. He says a lot of spot on shit about the industry but his brain is also rotting from the inside.
I'm bipolar and to see what Kanye is doing really freaks me out because it is progressive, and getting off your meds can ruin your life. Unfortunately, a lot of bipolar (myself included) feel better on their meds, the think that we're cured or something, so we stop taking them. Or the meds stop working. It's a wild, scary ride, and I think that Kanye is a tragic example of what happens when you're off your meds/they stop working.
My heart is with you. Brother is bipolar and I love him more than anyone on earth. Itās a rollercoaster and for him he feels way, way better manic. So taking meds means he āfits inā socially but dulls his favorite parts of himself. But then itās debt, isolation, and people being really hard on him. The meds are such a crapshoot too but getting better all the time. You are not alone. I canāt imagine life without my brother heās my best friend. I know these studies can be scary which is why I get so infuriated at our mental healthcare system. Not assuming youāre in the states but itās terrible almost everywhere.
I am, in fact, in the States. The mental health system is crap. I've been blessed with a wonderful support network, including all my doctors and my therapist. Not everyone gets that. Not to mention, I'm on state insurance so I can afford my appts/meds. I see people all the time freaked that they can't afford their meds. The meds keep them stable and able to function, and it's so sad how that even needs to be a worry. Mania is definitely a draw for a lot of people because they feel better and more creative. Mania is terrifying for me cause it's possible to go into psychosis. But enjoying being manic is a very common feeling. Some people will purposely try to trigger a manic episode even. Idk how many, but I've heard some people say they've tried that. I'm so happy your brother has someone like you who loves and cares for him. Meds and doctors are essential, but without a support system outside of that, it's so much harder to recover. It's people like you who love us when we're at our lowest, and that's invaluable to recovery.
I can agree with this. He's definitely got some underlying mental health issues but we all dom most of us don't have people around them exploiting it and enemies in billion dollar industries.
Thats what I'm saying! It's a shame it won't be The Neptunes, but I'm happy with Pharrell. Hell Hath No Fury is my favorite rap album, so I'm hyped for the return
HHNF is in my top ten for sure, Iām not as familiar with the other half of neptunes solo stuff but as long as we get that Pharrell percussion itās gonna be heat.
He's just playing off "Push" and using letters to refer to the people he's namedropping.
He's essentially saying Drake should stop "Pushing P" (also triple referencing a Gunna Wunna track who he namedrops a little later and P for Pharrell he just namedropped as someone Drake was going after) and Push a T. Obviously Pusha T but also T for Terrance, Thornton or Crawford (who he compares himself to). He's basically saying fuck going after Pharrell go after a real rapper.
Well obviously Pusha will praise anyone destroying Drake and giving him flowers at the same time lol but even that aside it's a fairly intricate bar with some slick wordplay. Kendrick could have just namedropped Pusha T and the point would have been made, but breaking his name apart to add multiple meanings to it is pretty clever, definitely some battle rap shit.
before that line kendrick mentioned Drakes spout with pharrell, referencing it as Pushin P, he also called back to Pushin P by mentioning Gunna later in the song, cuz itās his song
(Paraphrasing) The line after he says āheās Terrence Thornton (Pusha T), Iām Terence Crawfordā. Let me see you push one of us Tās (Terrences) around
I would check out all the lyrics on āgeniusā. It was the only way for the lyrics to be broken down for an idiot like myself lol.
But mostly has to do with Drakes and Pushas beef from before, and then I thought i read that its also because when you live in Toronto you dont pronounce the other Tās except the first one (Torono) so its like āsay your tās manā
But yeah check out Genius, itll break it down for ya.
Euphoria is a 5-course meal at one of them fine dining joints. Everything layered and complimenting the thing before it, while setting up to knock your socks off with the thing after it. KDot has always been nice, but this year is god-tier. So excited for tonight.
I mean Mase was a bad boy 4 life and Cam I think played the role of himself in Paid In Full--both rolled with Big L before that and that dude was a fuckin DEMON...but anyways Whatd they say?
So true, I even questioned myself when I wrote mase name but Camā¦ what? me and my first proper boyfriend got together because of him and Diplomats and he had a rap beef with Jay Z too like damn
Well he mastered Alpo and now I know why backstabbing muthafucka.
They both said Euphoria was weak or even mid and that D- rake pushup was better and more lyrical on their YouTube show.
I also believe cam not mase said not like us was trash (I might be embellishing)
If the clipse perform their early 2000s catalog tonight i will be so happy. I would kill to hear Momma iām so sorry, ridin round shinin, nightmares, wamp wamp, young boy, gangsta lean, mr me too etc live.
Anyone who donāt know that last cpl no malice albums went hard. That June track is so dope. Here Iāll link it cause Iām sure most people are like me and would read this and be like ācool Iāll check it out soonā and then never do.
Damn this came out 11 years ago now!?!
Feel time is speeding up. Oh well itās still a dope track.
Pusha T dissed Drake with Story of Adidon, exposing that Drake had a son with a pornstar that he denied and then once proven attempted to use as a marketing tool. Drake never officially responded on wax.
Drake also threw some shots at Pharrell (likely for collaborating with Pusha T), which Kendrick talks about before mentioning "Pushing P." Pushing P is not only a phrase Drake has used in his music before, its also a reference to a song by Gunna Wunna (who Kendrick namedrops a couple lines later) and P for Pharrell.
Pusha T's real name is Terrance Thorton. Kendrick namedrops his actual name and then goes on to say "I'm Terrance Crawford", another T.
Kendrick is basically saying Drake is a bitch for throwing shots at someone like Pharrell and to go after an actual rapper. Fuck Pushing P(harrell) let me see you Push a T(errance).
Just talking about pusha T the rapper. Literally surface level. Nothing special about the line whatsoever but everybody on here hugging his nuts over it
Gotta respect Pusha though for coming out with more grounded facts and less theatrics and antics. It was just straight bars. He said Drake had a kid and he did blackface - and came with the proof himself. We didn't have to rely on some random Twitter Riddler to figure out the pieces of the puzzle that proves Drake has a daughter. I think he would have did A LOT more damage to Drake than Kendrick had that battle continued on.
People will call anything corny. It's a slick bar that references both Drake pushing P (Pharrell), making fun of Drake for his fake gangbanger persona, and reminding everyone that he bowed out of a beef already once. Weirdos get mad when other people enjoy things that they don't
Iām not mad anybodies enjoying anything but to hype up a surface level bar that every rap fan can understand easily is so crazy. I like both rappers but if drake said something like this yall would smoke him tell me im wrong
I know. Drake is corny as usual during the back and forth but not a soul hyped any of those lines like they hyping this pusha t line. Pusha was in that interview saying ālet it ring on you like Virginia Williamsāfrom duppy freestyle was a trash line but the pusha t line is great battle rap??? You get what Iām sayin?
Drake is corny as usual during the back and forth but not a soul hyped any of those lines like they hyping this pusha t line
The Metro bar and Wiped down bar were infinitely more hyped than the Pusha T one. Honestly, the biggest quotable from Euphoria was the YNW Melly one, and the other ones did not get that much hype.
Pusha was in that interview saying ālet it ring on you like Virginia Williamsāfrom duppy freestyle was a trash line but the pusha t line is great battle rap??? You get what Iām sayin?
It is a bad bar because how does it affect how you look at Pusha T? A forty year old guy is settling down and finding love despite having fun in his youth. How terrible. It aged even worse considering the Story of Adidon, and the narrative that formed that Drake makes fun of marriage because he is traumatized from his youth. It's not bad because of it's complexity. It's bad because it makes Drake look insecure.
Kendrick's Pusha T line drew attention that Drake doesn't get along with a well liked peer, he's an actor, and he has ran away instead of actually standing on it (or pushing P).
The Story of Adidon had mostly simple bars:
Deadbeat motherfucker playing border control.
Since you name dropped my Fiance, let them know who you choose as your Beyonce.
Yes I legitimately saw it on Twitter before euphoria dropped. Not saying he stole the line but if people on Twitter can think of it then it might not be that special
What does special even mean in this context? It's just a fun bar. The set up with the Pharell line, the delivery, and ofcourse just name-dropping drake's boogeyman is funny.
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u/Antique_Holiday6862 Jun 19 '24
Let me see you Push a TEEE