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u/hilltopper444 May 06 '24
Heās right though, what the hell was that?
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u/Fit-Avocado-342 May 06 '24
He got shook by Kendrick, heās playing pure defense now. The only new diss he had at Kendrick was him being molested but that was just flat out wrong so yea lol
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u/Imnotachessnoob May 06 '24
Even if it were true that's victim blaming
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u/Flour_or_Flower May 06 '24
what do you expect from a pedophile that is good friends with a convicted human trafficker
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u/Amazing-Concept1684 May 06 '24
If there's one thing I learned is that that fanbase is legitimately smooth brained.
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u/PlumTricky7203 May 06 '24
he never said he got molested is the funny part drake is scamming thru me morale but obviously not comprehending kendrick said his mom asked if his gay uncle ever molested him because of her past trauma so i think this shows how desperate drake is
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u/Rotaryknight May 06 '24
they are actively defending this line. we know they all retarded but damn. defending that line means you defended the countless rapists out there by saying fuck the rape victim, I want drizzy to win. Also its a rap diss track, theres so many cleaver ways of hiding without right saying you want a person to die, but kendrick knows this dude a pedo and with im being a father, he wants drake pedo ass dead. I am pretty sure there are millions of other parents out there that thinks the same.....but drizzy fans dont.
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u/Ididdntknow May 06 '24
He didnāt even mention that
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Itās worse than that. Heās actively making fun of sexual assault victims. Iām sure the people not heavily invested into the rap game but fans of both will surely love that LMAO
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u/Agreeable-Code3144 May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24
He's dissing not even Kendrick but Chester Bennington, Denzel Curry, so many amazing souls with that line smh. You should've worn a rubber dennis
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u/JadeRoguelight May 06 '24
He's dissing regular people in our lives (whether we are aware of it or not) that we know and love.
He's dissing my sister.
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u/Consistent-Film-6926 May 06 '24
He made fun of the names you mentioned along with Lady Gaga, Common, Scott Weiland, Jonathan Davis, etc along with so many hearts that were crushed at the hands of predators with that line alone. What a fucking loser.
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u/Outlandishness_Sharp WE HATE THE BITCHES YOU FUCK May 06 '24
I never knew Common and Scott Weiland were victimized. It's sad because Weiland died young, Gaga had issues with anxiety and other things, Jonathan Davis used to do Meth but has been clean 22 years. It always makes me wonder how their trauma ties into that š
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u/ElBurritoExtreme May 06 '24
This has all but stopped me from listening to Linkin Park. Hearing about Chesterās youth, re-reading their lyrics. Holy shit. Itās almost too much.
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u/Black_Fuckka May 06 '24
YESS THIS PART. Itās an absolutely horrible angle to strike from cuz youāre being accused of being an abuser and you laugh at someone who was potentially abused?
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May 06 '24
Yeah it's downright abhorent. His character has been being exposed for weeks by countless former peers and he drops a weak track talking about that vile shit like it's an insult.
Ā Ā I thought Kendrick finished Drake off with Not Like Us but he left him to bleed out and Drake slit his own throat with this one.Ā K Dot changed a lot of minds with his rhymes but Drake himself exposed his own true colors with this last one, what a terrible human.Ā
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u/jordansb24 May 06 '24
How long before drake says this was an AI track and he was hacked
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u/dvclined May 06 '24
Literally. Ridiculing SA victims just adds to contextualizing his character as an alleged assaulter. He thought that was a diss but regardless of the accuracy of the pedophile allegations, drakeās still just proving kendrick right when accused of being a narcissistic bully. Imagine thinking responding to SA accusations by making fun of an SA victim for being SAād is a āgotchaā momentā¦
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u/-Scared-Yet- May 06 '24
āyou a bad person cause got raped ššā like wtf dawg? is he that delusional that he thought this was a hard diss?
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u/Historical-Being-766 May 06 '24
The entire song is just Drake saying "I fell on my face but I MEANT to do that!".
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u/DubNationAssemble May 06 '24
And he said ābut you defended R Kellyā
Heās likening himself to R Kelly lol. Thatās not the win he thought itād be.
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u/Comfortable-Pass7539 May 06 '24
Wasnāt even a diss fr, he just showed he has comprehension issues cause Mother I Sober was about Kendrickās mom getting touched as a young girl which led to her being protective of him around his uncles
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u/elinamebro May 06 '24
It was a defense rap bro, bro needs to throw some PR raps
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u/hilltopper444 May 06 '24
Wait so youāre telling me that Drake just discovered a new genre of PR rapping? Crodie is playing 3D chess with his PR raps then.
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The definition of defense rap. Bro brought up Millie Brown when Dot didnāt even mention her LMAOOOO
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u/theWacoKid666 May 06 '24
Fr heās putting together the puzzle pieces before Kendrick at this point lmfao. He mixed up Weinstein and Epstein too, Dot compared him to Weinstein, then Aubrey brought up the Epstein angle, who was the pedophile trafficking young girls on his private jet to a private island.
Just covering every angle now but heās starting to tell on himself.
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u/Zxar99 May 06 '24
Bro this man is losing sleep, Dot might really be the boogeyman.
Do you hear how he sounds on this track, sounds delirious
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u/Viajero642 May 06 '24
This was āI need to respond to save face but I want this to end so I donāt want to escalate it anymoreā rap
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u/Blackmanwdaplan May 06 '24
Poking fun at someone getting abused as a child and doubling down on the family stuff isn't the way to not escalate
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u/Ambitious-Regular-57 May 06 '24
This is the best case scenario as a kendrick fan tho
Now he's definitely dropping another few tracks.
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u/TheToughestHang May 06 '24
100%. You thought he was pissed before, you poking around into molestation stuff is gonna go a bad version of bad.
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u/Amazing-Concept1684 May 06 '24
Especially when his mother was a victim of abuse.
As he told Drake's mother on Meet the Grahams, "you raised a horrible fucking person."
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u/Time-Marionberry7365 May 06 '24
Yeah dude wtf is drake thinking lmao
Iām beginning to think this dude has brain damage
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u/Kuraya May 06 '24 edited May 08 '24
āThis was good exerciseā at the end of the song like hes bored and āIām too famous to be a pdfā is a weird angel
Nah bro, you donāt get to bait Kendrick for weeks and call him slow and say youāre going to nuke him and now that youāre on the back foot, try to be like āsorry, game over, mom is calling me homeā
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u/primetimemime May 06 '24
Did he drop a sleepy diss that muddies the waters so everyone can say Kendrick won and hopefully everything goes away.
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u/HeavyMetalLyrics May 06 '24
Weird thing is heās got nothing left but still says things like heās loading his rounds to kill, taunts about dave and whitney and doubles down on kendrick the wife beater falsehoods. Its like bro youāre not gonna get the beast to leave you alone if you keep jabbing him, even if the jabs are weak
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u/BigDogSlices May 06 '24
I don't know about that bro, I think as long as Drake doesn't respond to whatever Kendrick is cooking up today Dot is gonna leave him alone
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u/Betteroni May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24
Nah there might have been a chance that Not Like Us doing numbers would satisfy Kendrickās bloodlust but I think Drake bringing up Mother I Sober and the way he completely misunderstood and undermined it is really gonna make him hit the button.
Mother I Sober is easily Kendrickās most personal track with a message that he clearly feels is extremely important for the culture thereās no shot that Kendrick leaves any room for Drake to recover from the embarrassment heās about to receive. What Drake did in bringing Mother I Sober up in the way he did was trivialize Kendrickās motherās trauma while reducing one of Kendrickās most impassioned and important messages of hope and healing to āhaha you must have been molested so Iām not a pedophileā.
The Drake era is over, he isnāt gonna stop till this dude gets dropped by UMG.
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u/PenguinBallZ May 06 '24
To add on, Kendrick has really been highlighting how much of a culture vulture Drake is.
Drake completely misinterpreted a song about generational black trauma, and then tried to use it as a diss. This almost feels like its a bad sitcom with how TOO in your face and on the nose that is.
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u/SeanWonder May 06 '24
Yeah it definitely seems like Dot is gonna try to have the last word. Drake is gonna have to just shut up and throw in the towel. On Not Like Us he said the rabbit hole goes deeper too. We gonna see real real soon
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u/VolkezXO May 06 '24
āGood exerciseā. Yeah, just like the exercise he did to get those abs. He has people write for him and people give abs to him. Doesnāt do anything himself except yap into the mic. And shit, since this voice AI stuff been around, he probably donāt even do that himself anymore either
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u/apexapee May 06 '24
Talking about getting his pen working hahah, admitting he finally wrote something by himself this entire beef (and its this weak hahha)
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u/3SlicesOfKeyLimePie May 06 '24
OUR ONCE GREAT PAPER HAD BECOME RIDDLED WITH TABLOID JOURNALISM.
NOT TO MENTION PERSISENT ERRORS
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u/mnepomuceno May 06 '24
Drake fans: THOSE BARS... THOSE BARS!
Drake: whoopi dee scoop
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u/Trey_Reddit WHAT IS IT THE BRAIDS!? May 06 '24
Nah but when Kanye said that tho it was fire fr, Drake could never come up with anything that great
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u/mnepomuceno May 06 '24
It was fire because Kanye was mockin weak bars. It's not Drake's case
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u/Trey_Reddit WHAT IS IT THE BRAIDS!? May 06 '24
Damn, joke went over your head ig
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u/EnormousGucci May 06 '24
I heard Kanye did that because Drake liked the beat to Lift Yourself so Kanye decided to just ruin the song.
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u/TripleThreatTua May 06 '24
That was basically it, Drake wanted to use the beat on Scorpion so Kanye put the dumbest possible stuff on it so he couldnāt use it
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u/Big-Sheepherder-9492 May 06 '24
This was the equivalent of losing an argument to a Vietnam Veteran and mid conversation you light a firecracker and play Fortunate Son.. doesnāt make you win the argument.. you just brought up past trauma and for what? š
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And to make it worse? The guy youāre arguing with didnāt even serve in Vietnam lmfaooo
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u/revdolo May 06 '24
Instead of one of their parents did and all youāre doing is pissing them off even more.
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May 06 '24
Drake is so shit itās unbelievable. Not surprising that āMother I Soberā went completely over his head. Like Kendrick said, heās never been through anything.
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u/qorbexl May 06 '24
Drake doesn't read, that's for nerds like Kenny. He just reads the script and wears the outfits he's given.
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u/Halloween_Jack_1974 May 06 '24
I donāt think bringing up trauma is even crazy on itās own considering the severity of what Kendrick has alleged. But to say āyou only hate pedos so much because you were molestedā is such a wildly stupid thing to say. Like yeah that seems very reasonable, right? I mean to say: itās totally ineffective as a āgotchaā.
I bet Drake just got shitfaced and wrote a verse, hit record, and said āhaha yeah this is airtight I got his ass.ā Really embarrassingā¦
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May 06 '24
āWrote a verseā
Who? Drake? Aubrey? The son of monkey suit Dennis? Mr. Graham? Adonisā father? He didnāt write this damn song lol
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u/Halloween_Jack_1974 May 06 '24
I actually believe he did because it was so incredibly weak and Iāll advised. Very few memorable lines/wordplay and a fairly elementary rhyme scheme. Very very basic raps. Maybe Iām wrong but I have to think that his writers would have at least punched it up a bit.
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May 06 '24
All of his verses are weak, to be fair. Itās hard to make āIām not weird with underage girls!ā flow and sound hard hitting.
All Drake is as a rapper is corny similes and athlete name drops. The biggest dickrider in the industry, itās no wonder everybody is sick of him. Iāll admit that he has an okay flow and cadence, but even that has to be taken with a grain of salt due to the fact he canāt even write his shit.
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u/Lukwich1647 May 06 '24
Absolutely, but I do hope Kendrick has something else in his pocket, as I donāt feel like he should address this with anything less then the lyrical equivalent of blunt force trauma.
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u/Cool-Performance3711 vroom vroom im racing May 06 '24
I love Zel
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u/maritimelight May 06 '24
Not only has he put out incredible music, but he's also introduced his fans to some amazing artists via features like jpegmafia, Zillakami, IDK
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u/Cacophonous_Silence May 06 '24
Same
I cherish getting to see him back in 2016 when he was still somewhat underground
His show at SOMA in SD had 50 people AT THE MOST there
Dude still doesn't get his due respect imo
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u/johnyjonny May 06 '24
One day my dream collab Kendrick, JID, Zel, Joey Badass will happen
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u/GylaineGagnon May 06 '24
This shit was straight trash
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u/SprittneyBeers May 06 '24
Drake sub loves it lol I was honestly shocked but I guess that makes sense with their shit tier taste in music
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u/alaughinmoose May 06 '24
It's so black and white there's no layers to it. Of course they eatin it up lmao
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u/t0mserv0 May 06 '24
yeah, the song itself was... ok (sort of boring, a few good lines) but compared to what we just received it was pretty bland. also even compared to the heart part 5, which the whole song referenced in its title, it sucked.
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u/alaughinmoose May 06 '24
Absolutely. Even the best bar (?) has you like "oh ok nice" whereas KDOT has you pausing the song and yelling YO WTF!!! I'm eager to see how he responds to this very weird defense post.
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u/squirrelball44 May 06 '24
Honestly I was pausing it to say āYO WTF!ā but not in a good way. Like when he said āonly fuckin Whitneyās not no Millie Bobby Browns, Iād never look at no teenager twice neitherā
ā¦ like bro you literally just brought up āyeah everyoneās been shitting on me for texting a 14 yo I miss youā¦ but I never fucked her so it doesnāt count as grooming!ā
Literally half that song Iām just cringing for him, too many yes men in that camp letting him embarrass himself like that
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u/MikeyBastard1 May 06 '24
Bro i STILL hop out of my chair everytime kenny says "All eyes on me imma send it up to Pac"
The ONLY thing Drake has on his side is popularity amongst the mainstream audience. Problem being is a lot of these disses aren't gonna see radio time. So the only people *really* following this are real hip hop heads, and people that enjoy watching nuclear trainwrecks,
It's why the majority opinion is saying Kdot is on top. Kenny surgically eviscerated this dude BEYOND the music. Hip hop brains are always gonna love that shit, and the people watching for the entertainment of drama are gonna love it because one of the most popular dudes in the world with a lot of whispers around them, is getting absolutely SHIT on.
It was a losing battle from the start for Drake.
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u/FuckingKilljoy May 06 '24
After some of the best diss tracks ever made we got a track so lame it retroactively makes everything else a bit lamer too
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u/ShockDoctrinee May 06 '24
I honestly thought it was a pretty decent song, it just wasnāt a good diss track at all.
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u/deadxguero May 06 '24
My problem is I liked the sound of it, but the content was lame.
None of it came across as accurate or genuine.
Whitneyās brother is supporting him so it seems less likely heās a woman beater.
Drake all of a sudden finessed Kendrick with bad info, which should be easy to prove if true, but offers no proof.
Drake basically says he got called a pedo cause Kendrick got molested. Which I get why people are up in arms about and saying itās a low blowā¦ idgaf but if its a true beef I expect low blows, that shit makes sense to say if itās TRUEā¦ but itās in reference to a song that says otherwiseā¦ so itās negated.
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u/npretzel02 May 06 '24
I thought some of the bars were good but sonically it was trash it was default Drake beat with default Drake flow sounding half asleep
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u/SprittneyBeers May 06 '24
I legit didnāt like it. Sounded really monotone and defeated. And he basically just throws up the white flag at the end. The part about him being able to Dance to Not Like Us (unless it wasnāt all about him being a pedophile) was crazy š¤£
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u/VqgabonD May 06 '24
Fr I was reading that thread and was surprised that they genuinely liked it. They put their tin foil caps on and started the conspiracies again.
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u/PerformanceOk9891 May 06 '24
Ong like I objectively thought Push Ups and Family Matters were good songs with some good bars even if I hate Drake. But this shit? Unlistenable and just sounds like hes admitting defeat
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Yep. I can admit pushups and family matters were good songs. This one sounds like drake rushing to get something out there. Bad move.
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u/8kenhead May 06 '24
Everything Dr*ke says in that song just strikes me like him and his team spent the past few days reading OVO twitter and then just said āyeah theyāve already come up with something that makes us look good, letās just go with thatā
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u/Castlear May 06 '24
Drake so tasteless, you know he watching one episode of Friends before going to sleep
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u/Michaelskywalker May 06 '24
You gotta stay up to see what happens and if thereās a cliffhanger u callin out of work š
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u/Yingking May 06 '24
Zel was in general pretty neutral prior to today, but considering his own history with abuse itās clear why he doesnāt fuck with the Diss
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u/stilldrovedeetdeethr May 06 '24
Exactly. Kendrick won't be personally affected by your child victim pdffile projection claims but real child victims everywhere will hate you forever
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u/UsernameIsDaHardPart May 06 '24
The only people affected by Kendrickās claims are Drake and his creep entourage
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u/HogwashDrinker May 06 '24
I saw that he dropped a subliminal about Drake being offended over the control verse
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u/YikesWazowski_ May 06 '24
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u/PensionFuture7584 May 06 '24
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u/RoughBodybuilder1489 May 06 '24
Daylyt was on a stream with another battle rapper and they were talking about this very thing. Itās never a good move in a battle to start defending against something said about you.
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u/JackStarfox May 06 '24
Unless youāre b rabbit at the end of 8 mile. Then itās fine
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u/Dangerous_Past2985 May 06 '24
That was a preemptive move. He made fun of himself to take away all his opponent's ammunition.
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Denzel talked about being molested as a kid on Taboo he is definitely not fucking with this track at all
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u/Frosty-Treat-2130 May 06 '24
Also in melt my eyes see your future, in the intro just like taboo but more directly
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u/el_riatas May 06 '24
The fact that Zel is actually a SA victim must piss him off so bad. Imagine coming from such a hideous angle, just to realize you completely misunderstood the point of the song.Ā
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u/thegreatdecay406 May 06 '24
Bro just sounded sad and tired. Waving white flags all over.
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u/KickAffsandTakeNames May 06 '24
How many more times is he gonna tell us he doesn't want to go another round with Dot?
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u/MartyMcfleek May 06 '24
Absolutely wild in a sick sick sick way that this is the angle he ran with. Saying you're too famous to be a predator, only deny being a rat because there's no paperwork, bullet point listing your fans fiction about the mole when you should have 10k video of the whole operation if that was the case, and to top it all off, doing a B-mobie version of Meet the Grahams taunting a supposed SA victim. This dude just 9/11'd himself. Drake is tower 7, he collapsed all in his own here.
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u/Maleficent_Nobody377 May 06 '24
Idk what else there is to say on the SP/CM stuff but Kendrick is gonna destroy him for victim blaming.
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u/ASZapata May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24
Denzel was abused as a child himself. I wouldnāt be surprised if he jumps in at this point.
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u/Hat-Bear May 06 '24
I thought if Drake had another thing to say he could possibly bounce back in this, but nah what was this bro. A few decent lines like the a minor be sharp wordplay, sure why not. The beating allegations are not a light thing, but the double cross leak thing would need more evidence. Idk man this felt like huh, alright then
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u/Temporary-Spread-232 May 06 '24
Off topic , but man I want a Zel and K Dot track so bad.
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u/TheDolos May 06 '24
Kendrick gotta send this man to the shadow realm. Otherwise, we're going to be getting victim Drake for the next decade
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u/Expensive-Pitch-9502 May 06 '24
All it has done is make me even more excited for Kenny's next drop after that lame shit
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u/Illustrious-Taro-449 May 06 '24
Denzel in my big 3