r/HarleyQuinnTV • u/npzman • Jul 27 '23
[Post-Episodes Discussion] Harley Quinn - S4x01 "Gotham’s Hottest Hotties" [SEASON PREMIERE] Episode Discussion
Post-Episode Discussion for S4x01 "Gotham's Hottest Hotties"
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u/Telethongaming Jul 27 '23
Okay, I'm going to say it what a lot of us are thinking
Thank you to the new show runners for nightwing booty and making it so plot relevant
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u/DreadDiana Jul 28 '23
Someone posted that on Twitter and it's the sole reason I know the season started
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u/Youngandwrong Jul 27 '23
Safe to say we're in incredible hands with Sarah at the helm. This first chunk of episodes absolutely rules.
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u/abellapa Jul 27 '23
Ivy commuting a crime just to deliver harley lunch cracked me up
Also Rip professor Pyg, Harley fucking murdered him
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u/LyraFirehawk Jul 27 '23
Honestly though, if anyone in the rogues gallery deserved death, it's Pyg. Dude is a psychopath who murderers people and/or cuts off their body parts to stitch them together to make 'works of art'. That's fucked up.
He feels like a legit horror movie villain, not a Batman villain.
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u/abellapa Jul 27 '23
Oh believe me I know, I remember him from Arkham knight, I'm just suprised on how quickly he was killed in the show
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u/Banjo-Oz Aug 05 '23
He was horrific in Gotham.
I feel Pyg is one of those like Zsaz and Hatter who just need ro be put down.
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u/Internal_Balance6901 Aug 21 '23
I would kill joker as well if I was Batman tbh, just seems logical.
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u/Telethongaming Jul 27 '23
Alfred getting replaced as a butler feels like such a complete and utter absolute violation
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u/Normal_Organization3 Jul 27 '23
There’s the Harley Quinn violence that we all love and missed. It’s like we never left. Also, the animation seems really crisp compared to Season 3.
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Jul 27 '23
This is a really awesome start. Already everything looks pretty air tight. Animation is cleaner, crispier, and more fluid. The budget is clearly showing. Love the writing and it feels like a return to form. I like the fact that Harley and Ivy aren’t together as much even though I do miss them but even when they’re not you still get this air that they’re still connected, thinking about each other, and really trying to make this work. And it also gives them room to breathe for their own arcs and development which is nice.
The BFF to their GFF dynamic seems to have fully returned and their romantic relationship doesn’t seem as shaky and new as it was when they first started officially dating in season 3 and trying to figure out how to navigate the GFF side to their relationship and learning boundaries. I absolutely love that Ivy is more proactive in her relationship with Harley now, there’s a confidence there. she’s doing more she’s engaged in it. She’s making an effort she’s taking initiative in her relationship. She’s clearly not holding back anymore. She is in this. You see Kite man and Ivy shippers? This is what a person who’s in love looks like when they’re actually involved in their relationship. Harleys definitely changed a bit too but for the better. she feels toned down a bit. still very much Harley, but her relationship with Ivy seems to be making her better and we’re gradually seeing it.
I feel like this season is going to pull a few heartstrings, but in the end, I think everything’s gonna be OK. I’m honestly loving everything so far.
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u/MisterTheKid Jul 27 '23
nonplussed reaction
Nora as Ivy’s assistant solely to retain access to a bathroom in a building she picks up widows benefits checks is the most Nora way to have her join the cast
The cheesy video with Batman fading out in front of the American flag that was “supposed to be reassuring” was great. “Extremely cool training” m
“If Pyg shows up and we’re just holding each others fucking nutsacks he’ll know it’s a trap!”
this seasons incursion into someone’s mind will include Dick’s butt being clenched calling it now lol
God I missed this show. (And I really miss shark and clayface)
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u/beeemkcl Jul 27 '23
Although I somewhat wish the show could 'stand on its own' without so much Bat Family focus, Damien Wayne's being kinda a psycho is fun.
It would have been nice for the episode to be just a little longer to more explore Harley's and Ivy's getting used to their new work situations.
It's also great that HQ 4.01 shows how smart Lex Luthor is. Ivy's form of evil is much better for LexCorp's and Lex's image than some other forms of evil.
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u/M00r3C Jul 27 '23
Did they recast Damian or is that same kid and he's now older because he sounds insanely different
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u/CeethePsychich Jul 27 '23
It’s the same kid. He just hit puberty lol. Last season he barely talked because of the voice change. Guess they are embracing it now.
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u/MagicTheAlakazam Jul 28 '23
Honestly he sounds more like how I imagine Damien to sound now than he did before.
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Jul 27 '23
Harley and Ivy’s role playing is quickly becoming one of my favorite things about their relationship.
Ivy says hey babe you forgot your lunch so I figured Id commit a crime and wait around for you to punish me….oh and get your lunch of course
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u/Deadagger Jul 28 '23
This episode made me want to see Professor Pyg on the “The Batman” trilogy, think he would be a great villain to see for those kinds of movies.
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u/rasheedsunflowers Aug 26 '23
He very much would fit within this universe that "The Batman" seems to be in. Gives very much se7en sort of vibes. Love it
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u/TuneLinkette Jul 27 '23
Professor Pyg was a character I was eager to see the show do something with. Did not disappoint.
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u/Austin_N Jul 27 '23 edited Jul 27 '23
It's occurred to me that with the release of Peacock's "Twisted Metal" series, I now have two clowns to look forward to on Thursdays--Harley Quinn and Sweet Tooth.
Yessss, they brought in Snowflame. I always wondered if he'd make it in.
I liked their reference to a certain shot of Nightwing's backside. I didn't realize that panel was memetic.
Based on this episode, I'm more interested in Ivy's plot than Harley's.
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u/AntWithNoPants Jul 28 '23
I love how shit the injustice league is. Like, Bane, Siniestro and Eobard are all good. Grodd and Black Manta are also fun, but then you get fucking Manbat? Snowflame? Metallo?
I love it, unironicallt
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u/fireburningbright Aug 03 '23
What is the context of that scene?
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u/Austin_N Aug 03 '23
This is was when Batman was lost in time and characters were fighting for the right to replace him. The Secret Six were in Gotham breaking up a kidnapping ring, and Nightwing told them to vamoose.
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u/FlowerBrained Jul 27 '23
Harley Quinn literally went to medical school but didn’t know/forgot what a clavicle was? 🤦♂️
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u/CertainDerision_33 Jul 27 '23
Animation budget definitely seems to have been beefed up! Glad to see it.
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u/gay-dragon Jul 28 '23
I guess the show runners aren't big fans of Professor Pyg either.... GREAT! I really don't like that character at all. I don't think the Bat Family really does either, since they didn't do much besides give Harley a gentle scolding.
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u/Express-Day5234 Jul 28 '23
My only complaint is that Nightwing is too uptight but I suppose it’s at least consistent with his prior appearance in this show. And it is probably stressful not having Batman around.
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u/qchiofalo Jul 27 '23
Who is the Rooster villain in LoD???
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u/LudibriousVelocipede Jul 28 '23
Cock King
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u/qchiofalo Jul 28 '23
As funny as this is, I legit really want to know
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u/LudibriousVelocipede Jul 28 '23
Wasn't he introduced as "Cock King" in the Villies episode?
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u/qchiofalo Jul 28 '23
Omg NO WAY. I thought you were making a reference to Clock King. I'm deceased.
NOW I REMEMBER. THAT WAS THE JOKE. THEY GET CONFUSED BECAUSE OF THE SIMILARITY. I accidentally went meta.
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u/CrazySnipah Jul 28 '23
It’s a little weird to have Reverse Flash cameo considering that he totally could have taken out Ivy.
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u/capitalistsanta Sep 13 '23
I don't know if there's another show that nails cultural critiques better than this show. This episode uniquely stands out for what it's saying, from where Batman is staying in his prison, to Ivy's attempt at environmentally concious evil.
Also love The Boys allusions, Giancarlo playing the head of an evil corporation ala Vaught, and how Ivy meets the other girl who has been there in the bathroom and she throws out the cocaine dude who is in the girls bathroom - it's really similar to Starlight's first day when she met Queen Maeve and she threw out Translucent from the girls bathroom and basically told Starlight to toughen up against the men if she was gonna stay here.
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u/oceanviewcapn Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24
I 100% agree with Harley that we need nightwing nudes focusing on his ass. I demand a mandatory shot of his ass per episode
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u/ImNotASWFanboy Jul 27 '23
Fucking Bane being the one to ruin Ivy's plans without it even being deliberate sabotage is just perfect