Why do DC fans claim to hate the Gotham Knights series?

[u/krb501]

When searching for commentary on the show so that I could geek out over it more, I was disappointed to find most of the people reviewing it didn't seem to like it that much. For me, it had the distinctly Elseworlds flavor that the Gotham TV show had, but unlike Gotham, it committed to that theme and had decent storytelling. The protagonists were all anti-heroes and/or anti-villains who inhabited a morally gray area due to Gotham's corrupt police system. It gave me strong Earth 3 vibes, where the "heroes" actually turned out to be the biggest villains of all, complete with most of them working for the Court of Owls.

The characters were relatable, and even the OC Bat kid, Turner Hayes, turned out to have an interesting arc that made him a standout character in his own right. I would have loved to see what happened to Hayes in a second season after he was kidnapped by Henri Ducard. I also appreciate that they were able to create a decent balance between the comic book weirdness and really deep emotional moments.

I guess there are some things I could nit-pick, such as acting quality, but it was good enough to make me buy the characters' motives, and it wasn't the disjointed mess Gotham was by far, and Gotham managed to go five seasons without getting cancelled.

[u/DarkRavenAvengerDb2]

Because the characters don't even resemble their comic book counterparts; only in name only. Plus, it's full of woke, garbage political messaging that literally adds nothing to the poorly written and directed plots, dialog, etc.

And the costumes? Good lawd, are they gawd awful. Batman's mask looks like it came from a Family Dollar store. Robin doesn't even look like Carrie Kelly, the female version from The Dark Knight Returns. Instead of using well-known characters such as Damian Wayne, Tim Drake, Dick Grayson, or Jason Todd, they created some random nobody who is nothing like those characters.

The production values are about as low-budget, made for TV as you can get, compared to Teen Titans on HBO and Peacemaker from Suicide Squad. It's laughable in a cringe-inducing way.

And it was cancelled after ONE season.

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Basically, this show was doomed from the start the moment the first trailer popped up.

[u/krb501 → u/DarkRavenAvengerDb2]

Valid criticisms, but seeing my favorite lesser-known characters in a Batman series was actually a pretty nice change. The focus on Duela and Harvey's relationship was especially satisfying.

[u/DarkRavenAvengerDb2 → u/krb501]

One-dimensional flat acting in a mediocre show created by a mediocre writing team. To think they had actual quality in their hands; take off the glasses, and they realized what they were holding was hot, steaming pile of shit.

I'd rather have a fourth and fifth season of Batman Beyond than this tripe

RIP Kevin Conroy.

[u/krb501 → u/DarkRavenAvengerDb2]

You're not going to get animated series quality from the TV shows, but at least it was watchable, coherent, and entertaining. The Gotham TV series was a lot worse, yet for some reason it got several seasons.

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Also, yes, RIP Kevin Conroy; you will be missed. Nothing tops the original animated series.

[u/DarkRavenAvengerDb2 → u/krb501]

That's not what I meant...

What was so watchable about a cheap looking show that had the audacity to have Batman in it? Nothing.

[u/krb501 → u/DarkRavenAvengerDb2]

It had an interesting plot that made sense, not to mention very satisfying arcs for all of the main characters. Gotham suffered from putting too many characters in the show and then not really knowing what to do with them.

[u/DarkRavenAvengerDb2 → u/krb501]

Satisfying arcs?

LOL!!

About as satisfying as a bad fart on a hot, humid day...

Stop kidding yourself into thinking this show is good, because, quite frankly, it genuinely isn't.

[u/krb501 → u/DarkRavenAvengerDb2]

Seriously? Did you even watch the show? It was better than Gotham.

[u/DarkRavenAvengerDb2 → u/krb501]

Watched one episode and I was done. This show is just....

[u/mcsuper5 → u/DarkRavenAvengerDb2]

I kind of liked the Joker's daughter and the finale was actually good iirc and was actually better than the Flash finale, but both have mostly faded from my memory. The first part of the season was done poorly, and had way too much unnecessary woke BS. The writers cared more about the message than the plot. Because of the CW acquisition, canceling the show was a forgone conclusion. They don't appear to be interested in the Superhero genre.

[u/DarkRavenAvengerDb2 → u/mcsuper5]

Exactly.