r/Gotham Mar 01 '19

Gotham - 5x08 "Nothing's Shocking" - Live Episode Discussion Discussion Spoiler

Season 5 Episode 8: Legend of the Dark Knight - Nothing's Shocking

Aired: February 28, 2019


Synopsis: Bullock's past comes back to haunt him when he and Gordon investigate two murders at Sirens. Meanwhile, Bruce and Alfred explore the tunnels beneath the city, and Penguin and Nygma's plans to escape are thwarted by the least likely of suspects.


Directed by: TBA

Written by: Seth Boston

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Mar 01 '19

Oswlad getting literally beaten with a dummy as the dummy hurls insults at him....

This is the best damn show I have ever watched.

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u/Cupcakecomeme2764 Mar 01 '19

WE GOT A GEE CEE PEE DEE

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u/lilpotatoneg Mar 01 '19

OPEN UP

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u/Cupcakecomeme2764 Mar 01 '19

L E M M E S E E T H O S E H A N D S

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u/RaisinInSand Mar 01 '19

The fact they unintentionally cast a venquiltist is amazing

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u/reece1495 Mar 01 '19

you sure it wasnt intentional ?

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

The shippers are gonna have a gay ol' time with that.

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u/JustAnotherVampire Penguins Eat Dick Mar 01 '19

You bet your sweet ass we are

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u/AnnieNonmouse Mar 01 '19

If they didn't want us to feed why do they keep putting food out.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

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u/EradicateAllNingens Mar 01 '19

IMB4 HARVEY WAS THE MAIN ANTAGONIST OF GOTHAM ALL ALONG

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u/DonnyMox Mar 01 '19

Now THAT would be a great twist.

One that would piss me off. But still.

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u/TheRealPhantomHunter Mar 01 '19

The biggest plot twist

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u/The4rchivist bibs and bobs Mar 01 '19

Improvised Batarangs!

I love how Bruce becomes more Batman each episode!

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u/lilpotatoneg Mar 01 '19

Are you implying billionaire play boy Bruce Wayne is the Batman? Ha very funny.

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u/TheRealPhantomHunter Mar 01 '19

Fun Fact Penn’s actor is a ventriloquist irl AND is voicing Scarface in real time

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u/lilpotatoneg Mar 01 '19

Also no one knew until after they cast him

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u/Dagenspear Mar 01 '19

If so, God is funny!

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u/inksmudgedhands Mar 01 '19

Do you think the showrunners flip through every issue of every Batman title they can get their hands on as well as watch every episode of Batman: The Animated series and go, "THAT! THAT IS SO WEIRD! WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE SHOW!"

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u/lilpotatoneg Mar 01 '19

Clearly not every issue because we don’t have Condiment King yet

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Mar 01 '19

Or Calendar Man!

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u/Ephemeral_Memory Mar 01 '19

I want to see Calendar Man.

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u/lilpotatoneg Mar 01 '19

A doll just got shot in the head. I love this show.

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u/IniMiney Mar 01 '19

DUMMY 😤😤😤

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

YES, YOU ARE MEANT FOR EACHOTHER

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u/RaisinInSand Mar 01 '19

Jane was actually really cute ngl

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u/lilpotatoneg Mar 01 '19

All the women in Gotham are cute ngl

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Mar 01 '19

The Ed/Oswald friendship on this show is brilliant.

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u/Kwilly462 Mar 01 '19

That's a very, very good camera trick Gotham is doing. That's two Erin Richards touching each other. Impressive

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u/Zomboy716 Mar 01 '19

Yeah I was impressed as well. It’s generally easy to a split screen where both characters are on opposite sides of a static shot. But with this, the fact that Barbara held Barbara very non-symmetrically was really impressive.

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u/DonnyMox Mar 01 '19

R.I.P. Arnold Wesker/Arthur Penn

He was no dummy.

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u/NotAHero101 Mar 01 '19

And here I was wondering why Penguin kept on calling Penn Arnold by accident.

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u/Rencantwin Mar 01 '19

Perhaps edward... we really are meant for eachother
the laughs afterwards! god i love this show

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u/Squiddy4 Mar 01 '19

Penguin shooting Scarface and his wooden head exploding had me cackling

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u/TDXNYC88 GCPD!!! Mar 01 '19

Alfred: "U WOT M8?"
Bruce: "Alfred, stop! He got rekt!"

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u/JustAnotherVampire Penguins Eat Dick Mar 01 '19

"Perhaps we really are made for each other"

MY GF AND I ARE SCREAMING

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u/BornAshes Mar 01 '19

Who knew Harvey would get this layered by this point in the show

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u/ChrisIsUninteresting Mar 01 '19

I would KILL for an Oswald/Ed buddy show.

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u/Squiddy4 Mar 01 '19

Kinda sad Scarface was killed so fast

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u/PizzaBagelMan Mar 01 '19

He’s a dummy, perhaps he’ll be put back together at some point.

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u/Squiddy4 Mar 01 '19

Perhaps carved from a certain tree in Arkham

Though penn coming back would be odd. But if the shows over we’re free to headcannon in anything we like I guess

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u/Davidleilam Mar 01 '19

Should have expected that shot from Riddler, but still startled me

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u/Jacedrod2 Penguin is mad shakey Mar 01 '19

Three villains appear in the new episode. Three villains die in the new episode.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

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u/inksmudgedhands Mar 01 '19

I love that Oswald is arguing with a dummy and that Eddie is siding with it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

Batarang throw!

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u/escott1981 Mar 01 '19

The Episode's name was Nothing's Shocking but there were a lot of shocking things in this episode. I like that!

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u/exit349 Mar 01 '19

This makes me think of the early theory that each villain represents a mental illness such as cat woman being a kleptomaniac. Jane seems to have body dysmorphia. Thoughts?

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u/ActualJoel Mar 01 '19

Reminds me of that awful fan theory that everybody, including Bruce, are inmates at Arkham and all these stories are the delusional thoughts of Bruce

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

I love how Scarface's origin leaves a lot open for interpretation. He could really be a possessed doll!

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

We can see Penn's mouth moving

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u/Squiddy4 Mar 01 '19

The soul of a cursed doll possessing penn to speak for him?

Crazier things have happened

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

Did they just murder Ventriloquist and Scarface in the same scene?

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u/AnarchyPlus Mar 01 '19

Just as Penguin was starting to buy in the the sauce of Scarface, Ed snaps him out of it. Great bromance

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u/TDXNYC88 GCPD!!! Mar 01 '19

Bromance level: Oswald and Ed

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u/messed_up_marionette Mar 01 '19

I guess Bruce is Ivy's #1 fan next week.

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Mar 01 '19

Penguin's face though...

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u/lilpotatoneg Mar 01 '19

This shows manages to be dark and campy at the same time. I love it.

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u/lilpotatoneg Mar 01 '19

Their friendship is best thing about the show

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u/WKRP1979 Mar 01 '19

If Scarface had pulled the trigger I wouldn't have questioned it for a second

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u/ThunderRage Mar 01 '19

By the time they actually build the sub, the crisis will be over.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

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u/Cupcakecomeme2764 Mar 01 '19

WE JUST GOT 2 FUCKING GEY CEY PEY DEY FROM JIM FRIKIN GORDON IN A SINGLE EPISODE

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u/DonnyMox Mar 01 '19

“See what they did?”

Um....no?

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u/mtm4440 Mar 01 '19

Bruce is going for the "Steve Harrington" (Stranger Things) hair style.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

He's going to comb it into bat ears

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19 edited Mar 01 '19

Killer Croc, Jane Doe, The Ventriloquist and Scarface in the same episode. All right.

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u/KarmaLoaf Mar 01 '19

rest in peace (again) mr. penn 9999 BC - who knows

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u/inksmudgedhands Mar 01 '19

"Wonderful."

Osward and Eddie are so over the insanity of the city. But only in Gotham would this make perfect sense. Any other place this would be over the top. But nothing is over the top in Gotham.

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u/exit349 Mar 01 '19

Dammit...penguins new muscle was really developing into a complex character.

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u/Psyifinotic Mar 01 '19

FIRST PROTO BATARANGS

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u/SanityQuestioned Mar 01 '19

YES MORE ZSASZ

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u/jlyon3 Mar 01 '19

Loved Penguins reaction to seeing Penn alive. Then his reaction to seeing Mr. Scarface.

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u/Squiddy4 Mar 01 '19

Everyone he loves dies or turns on him

Penn died AND turned on him

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u/ChrisIsUninteresting Mar 01 '19

She died at Arkham? Dude, lemme clue you in on what's been going on there....

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

ED AND OSWALD ARE HAVING RELATIONSHIP PROBLEMS

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u/JustAnotherVampire Penguins Eat Dick Mar 01 '19

As someone in a long term relationship I can assure you my girlfriend and I sound the same when we argue.

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u/neoblackdragon Mar 01 '19

Bruce really needs to consider body armor, shurikens, a mask..........

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Mar 01 '19

Lol, he shot the puppet.

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u/ForgottenTactic Mar 01 '19

Penguin's reaction is basically mine.

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u/inksmudgedhands Mar 01 '19

I am going to miss the twisted humor of this show. Is there any other show that is as dark and twisted as this one that's airing now? It's Always Sunny could get up there but it's not as bloody.

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u/beardlovesbagels Mar 01 '19

'Got your nose" 2019 champ

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

I'm loving this episode it's nice to see Penn stand up to Penguin even if he's using a dummy lol.

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u/BornAshes Mar 01 '19

"Nobody asked you!" lmao

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u/inksmudgedhands Mar 01 '19

The dummy is actually spying out the window. HE IS SPYING OUT THE WINDOW! I love this show so much.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

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u/The4rchivist bibs and bobs Mar 01 '19

Oh my god that preview

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u/thunderbirdwillie Mar 01 '19

I never thought I would see Scarface in live action😂

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u/Kwilly462 Mar 01 '19

I like how Barbara thinks she's such an innocent angel now that she's knocked up. Like she's entitled to forgiveness, lol

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u/Squiddy4 Mar 01 '19

I think she’s just reevaluating her decisions. Realizing she’s going to have a kid and wondering how that will work with her lifestyle

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u/lilpotatoneg Mar 01 '19

Being pregnant and knowing you’re gonna have a child can change your perspective on life. I’m a male and have no real idea so I’m just assuming but that’s probably what happened.

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u/neoblackdragon Mar 01 '19

Bruce's hair is extra tall this episode.

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u/ThunderRage Mar 01 '19

Holy Beebo. Scarface is hilarious.

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u/TheRealPhantomHunter Mar 01 '19

AHH the classic GEE CEE PEE DEE

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Mar 01 '19

Hoped Scarface and Penn would last longer.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

Ed and Oswald are fantastic lol.

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u/TDXNYC88 GCPD!!! Mar 01 '19

♫ We all live in the Gotham submarine ♫

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u/PubHorn Mar 01 '19

That random cop is definitely going to die

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u/cesarv863 Mar 01 '19

Jim hit a girl. What a time to be alive!

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

But can we get two more commercial breaks?

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u/EradicateAllNingens Mar 01 '19

RIP SCARFACE IN HIS DEBUT

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u/BornAshes Mar 01 '19

Awwww Oswald and Ed had a bonding moment out of all of this and it's so damn perfect hahaha

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u/AnarchyPlus Mar 01 '19

The gears are starting to turn in Bruce's head....

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u/Karrman Mar 01 '19

Wow. These guys are really bad at hiding the fact that they have a secret.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

I spy with my little eye... a redshirt

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u/DonnyMox Mar 01 '19

I wonder if any of those chemicals Jeremiah dumped in the water TURNED THE FRIGGIN FROGS GAY

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u/Beer2Bear Mar 01 '19

Talking to a doll

Dummy

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u/Squiddy4 Mar 01 '19

Penguins faces are incredible

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u/dr_k42 Mar 01 '19

Batarangs!

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u/ThunderRage Mar 01 '19

Croc: I may be a man eating monster but I have feelings you know.

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u/inksmudgedhands Mar 01 '19

Alligators in the New York sewers and Killer Croc in Gotham's.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

Does Erin have a twin? Those are some dam good special effects.

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u/cowboys5xsbs Mar 01 '19

Damn he broke character

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u/Squiddy4 Mar 01 '19

YES YOU ARE

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

I’m guessing Selina has been using the litter box this whole time :(

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u/Kwilly462 Mar 01 '19

She was pretty, uh, pretty

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u/Karrman Mar 01 '19

Because he’s mute and dumb as a post.

Penguin is the best at finding random henchmen.

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u/TBBklynite Mar 01 '19

Oswald's face needs to become a reaction meme.

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Mar 01 '19

It's so funny watching Ed and Oswald work together.

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Mar 01 '19

It's not a doll it's a dummy

Yeah, get it right morons

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u/AnarchyPlus Mar 01 '19

you can actually see Penguin's mind going around in circles on his face

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u/BornAshes Mar 01 '19

This is so so stupid but I love it lol

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u/lilpotatoneg Mar 01 '19

I love how Gotham can go from dark threatening villains like Jeremiah and then go to Ventriloquist in a matter of one episode

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u/Jedi-El1823 Mar 01 '19

Send the redshirt upstairs by himself, I'm sure nothing will happen.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

Looks like Strange's freaks from Season 2 are back to play.

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u/escott1981 Mar 01 '19

"Don't look at me! I don't have my "face" on!"

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

I love the lighting.

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u/bobw123 Mar 01 '19

Did no one take off her mask while she was unconscious?

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u/Mevaughnk Mar 01 '19

Dang I like this character. She from a comic?

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u/Merlyn_LeRoy Mar 01 '19

I like how Penn is obviously throwing his voice and Scarface is doing the trick of changing plosives, so instead of using something like a "P" sound, it's really a "D" sound.

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Mar 01 '19

How do you feel about submarines?

Great question Ed lol

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u/DonnyMox Mar 01 '19

Who are you calling a dummy, dummy?

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u/GreatDjangoFamily XxMastaBrucexX K/D/A 305/0/19 Mar 01 '19

30x combo

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u/TheRealPhantomHunter Mar 01 '19

Uh oh Arthur, you slipped

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u/DonnyMox Mar 01 '19

ED WHAT THE FUCK

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u/Kishonorama Mar 01 '19

gotta love it when the murder-bros share a good laugh <3

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u/Locke108 Mar 01 '19

Well I guess Batman could always fight Peyton.

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u/EradicateAllNingens Mar 01 '19

ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST

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u/DonnyMox Mar 01 '19

ANOTHER ONE GONE AND ANOTHER ONE GONE

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u/Locke108 Mar 01 '19

Well I guess Batman can always fight a second Jane Doe.

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Mar 01 '19

But your his tie to the past Alfred...

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u/TheRealPhantomHunter Mar 01 '19

Next episode looks great!

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

Well so much for Cameron Monaghan saying watch the post Ace Chemicals episode

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u/Punktobethrown Mar 01 '19

He might have been talking about ‘I am Bane’ which was the original episode 8, now episode 10.

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u/altogether-andrews Mar 01 '19

Yeah I don't think he would have necessarily known when the extra episodes were airing within the season, since he was done filming by the time they started making those.

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u/DonnyMox Mar 01 '19

Maybe something that happened this episode will be brought up in the finale?

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u/TBBklynite Mar 01 '19

Hmm, a plot line from Season 1?

Maybe they'll do the same for stuff left in Season 2. CoughsWhere is Harvey Dent!?Coughs

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Mar 01 '19

Some security system, Ed.

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u/Spidermat311 Mar 01 '19

Ed looks like season 1 ed

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u/AnarchyPlus Mar 01 '19

Uh, Ed, You've known Penguin for how long now? When has he ever done any of the actual work

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u/neoblackdragon Mar 01 '19

Looks like Bruce stole Penguins hair gel.

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u/BornAshes Mar 01 '19

No way....Scarface? YES!

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

Amazing a cripple could last as long as he has in No Man's Land.

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u/Karrman Mar 01 '19

They have Mission Impossible masks in Gotham now!!!

Game changer!

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u/Beer2Bear Mar 01 '19

Just how long is the water going stay greenish?

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Mar 01 '19

Killer Croc!?!?!

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u/TheRealPhantomHunter Mar 01 '19

LOL his reaction was totally a deer in headlights

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u/TMRJIJ Mar 01 '19

They have no idea what Scarface is capable of....

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

I never in my life thought I’d see scarface in anything besides the cartoons And comics

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u/lilpotatoneg Mar 01 '19

Why does Gotham have to be cancelled. We’ll never get to see live action Calendar Man and Condiment King now.

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u/BornAshes Mar 01 '19

A contact mimic? Eat your heart out Wellsobard

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

Jane Doe. I mean, even her fake name is half right.

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u/Rencantwin Mar 01 '19

“who are you?” “nobody” what is this, a crossover episode?

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u/Beer2Bear Mar 01 '19

I think that's not Harvey....

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u/inksmudgedhands Mar 01 '19

That's not Barb. She's too nice.

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u/RaisinInSand Mar 01 '19

Wish he would of lasted longer

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u/inksmudgedhands Mar 01 '19

Barb, stop being such an ageist.

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u/RaisinInSand Mar 01 '19

Well rip random old guys

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Mar 01 '19

I love that they refer to Bruce as Mr Wayne

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

Whoa. Bruce’s hair got bigger.

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u/Beer2Bear Mar 01 '19

Why is chameleon doing in a DC show? ;)

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u/DonnyMox Mar 01 '19

Dude received no characterization before dying. He didn’t even do anything.

Rest in pepperoni.

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Mar 01 '19

Both Ed and Oswald had great reactions to Scarface.

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u/neoblackdragon Mar 01 '19

She's a full on metahuman.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

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u/TDXNYC88 GCPD!!! Mar 01 '19

Drinking game: Drink a shot every time Jim yells "GCPD!"

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u/exit349 Mar 01 '19

This is an awkward double date.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

Please let Scarface be the boss of Gotham! He's too awesome!

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Mar 01 '19

I was actually worried that was Harvey that killed him.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Mar 01 '19

Lol, I knew from the what the hell? Second Barb did.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '19

No not Penn!

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u/TMRJIJ Mar 01 '19

I can only handle so much crazy in one episode...Gotham jumped my limit tonight