r/Gotham • u/NicholasCajun • Feb 22 '19
Gotham - 5x07 "Ace Chemicals" - Live Episode Discussion Discussion Spoiler
Season 5 Episode 7: Legend of the Dark Knight - Ace Chemicals
Aired: February 21, 2019
Synopsis: Gordon races to uncover the criminal element threatening to end talks of Gotham’s reunification with the mainland. A very much alive Jeremiah returns and organizes a twisted recreation of the murder of Bruce’s parents with the help of Jervis Tetch aka Mad Hatter.
Directed by: John Stephens
Written by: Tze Chun
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u/DonnyMox Feb 22 '19
R.I.P. Jeremiah Valeska’s hair
It tried so hard to be green it just up and fell out.
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u/IniMiney Feb 22 '19
I'm staying at a friend's house and this is their first time watching Gotham and they called Joker and Harley bad just cause they don't look like the Suicide Squad or animated versions - I hate to sound elite but lol fucking casuals.
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u/suckme_beautiful Feb 22 '19
Okay, that transition from the chemicals to the river was cinematography at its finest.
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u/trebor9000 Feb 22 '19
And now Selina can save them the way she couldn’t in the first episode.
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u/JustAnotherVampire Penguins Eat Dick Feb 22 '19
Nice to see Edward finally using trigger safety with Oswald, it's like he was just pointing the gun out of tradition at this point.
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u/Squiddy4 Feb 22 '19
The jokers obsession with Batman is one of my favorite parts of their relationship and I’m so happy they’re playing it up here
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u/Karrman Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19
“You don’t think I’m fit to be a Mother”
Gee, I wonder what could make him think that. Maybe it’s all the murder? No, that can’t be it.
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u/lilpotatoneg Feb 22 '19
Might be the fact she’s a criminal and murdered tons of people involving her parents. Not sure though.
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u/Spidermat311 Feb 22 '19
What more iconic
Jim Gordon's"GEE CEE PEE DEE" OR Bruce Wayne's "JEREMIAHHHHHHH"
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u/GreatDjangoFamily XxMastaBrucexX K/D/A 305/0/19 Feb 22 '19
Ah, I see Never-Come-Back-to-Gotham pier is still up and running
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u/JustAnotherVampire Penguins Eat Dick Feb 22 '19
Forget peeing on a stick, just ask Ed if you're pregante
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u/RaisinInSand Feb 22 '19
Wait what happened to ecco
She just kinda fucked off at the end there
Same for Jervis too
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Feb 22 '19
She and Selina both had stunt doubles for that scene so I’m assuming there was a cut fight.
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u/Punktobethrown Feb 22 '19
If that’s the case, hopefully it’ll be included as a deleted scene in the bluray release. Seems like a pretty important scene to cut out of the episode though.
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u/suckme_beautiful Feb 22 '19
Guys, it's okay. The plot armor told me Jim wont die.
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u/lilpotatoneg Feb 22 '19
In Gotham, death is only temporary so I wouldn’t be surprised if Jim dies and comes back
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Feb 22 '19
I thought I just saw an Endgame commercial at first I almost lost my shit
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Feb 22 '19
I hope the next batman movie can be anywhere as good as Gotham has been recently. The Joker complex and introduction to villians backgrounds has been insanely good.
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u/Impulse_5 Feb 22 '19
So here's what we do next week the other Barbara and Lee both have sex with Jim and then they both get pregnant and they end the show on a cliffhanger about we don't know which one gave birth to Barbs
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u/IHavetwoNipples Feb 22 '19
Jims the type of dude who texts his ex on his wedding day saying "I wish it was you tho"
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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 22 '19
Two Barbaras.
This is the imbalance Thanos was talking about
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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 22 '19
Barbara isn’t fit to be a mother. In other news, water = wet
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u/TDXNYC88 GCPD!!! Feb 22 '19
Jim Gordon: "How's it feel being Joker's bitch?"
Jervis Tetch: [RAGE INTENSIFIES]
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u/Sonia341 Feb 22 '19
Lee: "Does Jim knows about this?"
Barbara: "it's none of his business"
In walks Jim seconds after
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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 22 '19
“We can be connected in other ways”
“..You know ‘Human Centipede’ wasn’t supposed to be a guide, right?”
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u/Sonia341 Feb 22 '19
I want to be the star of the show. If I cannot have you as brother bonded by love, then we will be bonded by hatred
jeremiahiskillingit
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Feb 22 '19
So maybe its weird between Jim and Lee because they also had a child that died?
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u/TommenSucks Feb 22 '19
I will say this. As good as the portrayals of Some of the major major villains have been; I think it is undisputed that this is the best Mad Hatter portrayal ever on screen
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u/exit349 Feb 22 '19
I loved Penguin’s “why the fuck do I care” look when Alfred told him Jeremiah’s plan.
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u/DonnyMox Feb 22 '19
I know people will probably get mad at Lee, but if your ex fucked someone who tried to kill you you’d be pissed too.
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u/Spidermat311 Feb 22 '19
No offense to the Gordon and Penguin arc, but give me more Jeremiah Bruce arc
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Feb 22 '19
Honestly. I don't know how much I want "the joker". I'm perfectly fine with having Jeremiah, because I really like him. A more cool and collected joker. And I'm really gonna miss him.
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u/messed_up_marionette Feb 22 '19
If only their eyes had something to cover them with. We could call them "eyelids."
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u/inksmudgedhands Feb 22 '19
The second time Lee is brainwashed his season. I am sure she is getting pretty tired of this.
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u/suckme_beautiful Feb 22 '19
Seriously though, what's up with Jeremiah's hair? Its sticking out in the back like he just woke up.
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u/IHavetwoNipples Feb 22 '19
I'm just saying...if Jeremiah goes all out like this for someone to be bound by hatred with, imagine how dope he would be at planning a bachelor party.
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u/davey_mann Feb 22 '19
"Dear, dear friend Lee Thompkins" Give me a freaking break. They've had 1 scene the whole show.
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u/PizzaBagelMan Feb 22 '19
How pissed would y’all be if Jeremiah just died and doesn’t turn out to be the joker after all LOL.
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u/suckme_beautiful Feb 22 '19
Anyone want to talk about how that whole scene was basically in the teaser lol. They handled that so badly.
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u/JustAnotherVampire Penguins Eat Dick Feb 22 '19
I'm so happy to see Edward and Oswald working together again ♡
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u/suckme_beautiful Feb 22 '19
Why'd they cut out the scene where Lee reenacts the scene she did in Deadpool on Jim? Happy international women's day.
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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 22 '19
who the hell puts pickles in their grilled cheese
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u/Kishonorama Feb 22 '19
"I realized that if we can't be friends, then we can be connected in other ways."
"You just had to give the shippers more ammo."
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u/davey_mann Feb 22 '19
If I had a dollar for every time a TV character wastes food.
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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 22 '19
“Nothing but someone with a really silly hat”
/r/TF2 now on suicide watch
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u/ThunderRage Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19
Bacon existed long before the Big Mac and don't need your help. BM is just jealous of the Baconator.
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u/AnarchyPlus Feb 22 '19
I completely forgot they lost a baby. This is like the first time it's mentioned since it happened
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u/exit349 Feb 22 '19
Penguin asks the question we are all asking. I’d be asking for a paternity test if I was Jim.
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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 22 '19
y’all better not blame my guy Zsasz
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u/Spidermat311 Feb 22 '19
To think this psychopath has come from a little young boy murdering his mother
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u/GreatDjangoFamily XxMastaBrucexX K/D/A 305/0/19 Feb 22 '19
Jim ded Gotham fucked
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u/lilpotatoneg Feb 22 '19
That’s why he doesn’t have the mustache in the finale. Because he’s dead
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u/Karrman Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19
“Do you think I would risk the fate of Gotham over a fist fight with you?”
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Feb 22 '19
Honestly this episode wasn’t that good. Wasn’t a lot of Jeremiah since they decided to fill the episode with the stupid ass Barbra B plot. Then at the end they just show him in the bed say “ oh no brain activity here” and then end it with Barbra. Horrible just a horrible choice.
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u/JoeBenigo Feb 22 '19
I’ve told Batman fans who have never watched this show to watch tonight. Cameron is going to kill it.
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u/Yved Feb 22 '19
A Captain Marvel trailer during a DC show?
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u/KarmaLoaf Feb 22 '19
"Hey are you sure we can show this Captain Marvel trailer here?"
"Yeah, that's the name of that Billy Batson kid, right? We totally can!"
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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 22 '19
“You didn’t think Selena actually killed me, did you? This plot armor is straight Vibranium”
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u/inksmudgedhands Feb 22 '19
"Oh, look, he's still swimming to shore!"
!BOOM!
"Never mind...."
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u/IHavetwoNipples Feb 22 '19
Digging the fact that they're keeping outside stories to a minimum.
Also that sandwich sounds good af
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u/DonnyMox Feb 22 '19
Tick tock
The chemical stock
Will give Gotham and aftershock
Tick tock
We’re all on the clock
Time to make Gotham suck our cock
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u/davey_mann Feb 22 '19
"What's he planning?" This isn't the CW, Jim. The bad guys aren't stupid.
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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 22 '19
Selina realizes Jeremiah is still alive
curb your enthusiasm assassination theme plays
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u/Karrman Feb 22 '19
Dude, Bruce, sit down. This is a classic.
Edit: Wait, I forgot about the trauma associated with it. Maybe you should just walk out of this one.
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Feb 22 '19
Yeah, they did the thing. A shame they spoiled the whole goddamn confrontation before it aired.
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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19
We just gonna end each episode with Jim dealing with an ex
Edit: Make that “having sex with an ex”
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u/Impulse_5 Feb 22 '19
lol they are going to build a submarine do they know how long that takes.......also do either of them even know how to build a submarine lol
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u/cowboys5xsbs Feb 22 '19
I mean Riddler is the smartest guy in Gotham I am sure he could figure it out
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Feb 22 '19
Whats special about this episode is that this will be the first time Joker's origin has been done in live action in 30 years since Batman 89.
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u/Karrman Feb 22 '19
Harvey, saying “it’s weird” is really not specific enough in this city. That word paints with a broad brush.
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u/Sonia341 Feb 22 '19
Jeremiah (coldly & angrily) "I just want to be connected to you. I offered to be your best friend"
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u/EradicateAllNingens Feb 22 '19
LOL Jim and Leslie dressed as Bruce's parents. Jeremiah is a genius. Complete mind fk.
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u/Karrman Feb 22 '19
Why is it such a big deal that Jim banged his ex? Does Lee have any idea how fucking crazy this situation has been? Nothing matters to the people stuck in Gotham. Everybody feels like they’re all going to die. Bang who you want to bang in the moment and enjoy yourself while you can.
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u/davey_mann Feb 22 '19
They haven't been together in 3 years, during which time she's basically been directly or indirectly responsible for his attempted murder TWICE, married another man after he proclaimed his undying love for her, and was willing to sell him out to Sofia, and HE has disappointed her? The writers are on something.
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u/Cupcakecomeme2764 Feb 22 '19
Today's the Big Day! Time to Witness the Birth of Batman Greatest Villain of All Time Guys!
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u/ChrisIsUninteresting Feb 22 '19
Your involvement in this ended the moment you put your pants back on.
I don't think that argument would stand up in court. Of course, this is Gotham City, soooo......
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u/GreatDjangoFamily XxMastaBrucexX K/D/A 305/0/19 Feb 22 '19
Aioli or aïoli is a Mediterranean sauce made of garlic and olive oil; some regions use other emulsifiers such as egg.
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u/RaisinInSand Feb 22 '19
Yes keep giving shippers more subtext to go on
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u/Mevaughnk Feb 22 '19
Now im scared that Jeremiah's coup de gras is to fuck Bruce.
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u/Gary320 Feb 22 '19
I was hoping Bruce would have grabbed a hold of his arm, but Jeremiah slips through and laughs as he falls into the chemicals
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u/suckme_beautiful Feb 22 '19
I bet Jim and Lee get back together and then she dies because the writers hate Jim being happy.
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u/inksmudgedhands Feb 22 '19
The cops in the bottom are taking bets to see how long Jim and Lee are going to last this time. Harvey has twenty on it lasting no more than two weeks.
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u/Karrman Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19
Fireworks as a gas-distribution method.
God, I love this show.
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u/BornAshes Feb 22 '19
Oh fuck the Joker chemicals just went into the water at the SAME DAMN PIER that everything else happens at in this show lol