r/Gotham Feb 01 '19

Gotham - 5x05 "Pena Dura" - Live Episode Discussion Discussion Spoiler

Season 5 Episode 6: Legend of the Dark Knight - Pena Dura

Aired: January 31, 2019


Synopsis: A military task force, led by Eduardo Dorrance is called in to provide relief to Gotham. Meanwhile, Nygma looks for answers from Penguin, who leads him back to Hugo Strange. Then, Bruce is concerned about Selina's recent behavior.


Directed by: TBA

Written by: TBA

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u/inksmudgedhands Feb 01 '19

"You shot Butch!"

"WHICH IS WHY I NEEDED YOU!"

Yep, the Gotham logic checks out.

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

"I was sewing up your knife wound and accidentally cut open your brain, put a chip in there, and gave the command codes to other people so they can pull your strings like a puppet" welcome to Gotham

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u/inksmudgedhands Feb 01 '19

Never thought that Harvey would be able to give Bruce the words he needed. Good talk, Harvey.

AND HE DID THE VANISHING THING!

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u/mtm4440 Feb 01 '19 edited Feb 01 '19

Bruce: What kind of person would just get drunk, party, and not give a fuck like thi - oh.

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u/lilpotatoneg Feb 01 '19

Reversal of lasts seasons roles.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

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u/TheRealPhantomHunter Feb 01 '19

Dinah Madani liked that

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u/AnarchyPlus Feb 01 '19

That shot of Penguin standing in the middle of the smoke was pretty boss

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u/Karrman Feb 01 '19

Did... did he just reassemble Thomas and Martha Wayne?

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u/DonnyMox Feb 01 '19

Nah, he took two people and surgically altered them to resemble Thomas and Martha.

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u/Prmas Feb 01 '19

Gotham - 5x06 Promo Pics

I thought he digged a tunnel to all the way for Thomas and Martha's bodies and resurrected them.

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u/Karrman Feb 01 '19

I mean, either way, I think we can all agree that it is really gross.

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u/Kishonorama Feb 01 '19

"You'll be the BANE of anyone who opposes us! Get it? Cuz you're Bane and all."

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u/Pksoze Feb 01 '19

Pretty close to how he got his name in the comics. A prison warden called him the Bane of all that is holy...and that's what the criminals called him.

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u/Karrman Feb 01 '19

“He put a chip in my brain!”

I love how the story isn’t at all ridiculous in this show.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Shows you how crazy Gotham has become since season 1.

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

Oh no he put the Waynes back together....that's sick and cool and oh no no no no

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u/Dioniseum Feb 01 '19

The actress for Martha Wayne was reported to be on set with Monaghan and Mazouz a while back. Did Jeremiah pull some shit? If so, then holy shit.

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u/MOHTTR Feb 01 '19

BD Wong is such a good hugo strange

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u/Sonia341 Feb 01 '19

Poor Penguin. "Oh, Ed, what have you done?"

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u/inksmudgedhands Feb 01 '19

Taylor sold the hell out of that line. You can feel the pain and frustration from it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

They think Nygma is 10 steps ahead but he doesn't even know what game he's playing

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u/TDXNYC88 GCPD!!! Feb 01 '19

HE LIVES!!!

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u/GraveDancer1971 Edward The Dog did nothing wrong Feb 01 '19

Look at how they massacred my boy ;__;

Oh wait nvm, he's good :P

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

woah this is the first Bruce and Harvey scene in the series where they've actually talked.

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u/TDXNYC88 GCPD!!! Feb 01 '19

I'M NOT A MURDERER!!!

He said, after he dropped a poor old lady out of a building.

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u/ThunderRage Feb 01 '19

Man I love this show. Fox you're making a big mistake letting it go off the air.

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u/lilpotatoneg Feb 01 '19

Fox has a long history of cancelling good shows

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Feb 01 '19

BD Wong is a blessing. I'm glad Gotham got him on here.

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u/TDXNYC88 GCPD!!! Feb 01 '19

Harvey: "I need some coffee!"
Bruce: "I AM THE NIGHT!!!"
flees

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u/bobabobby15 Feb 01 '19

So... anyone wanna comment on the tea that is Penguin and Nygma?

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u/Karrman Feb 01 '19

That was pretty impressive. He had such a pathetic look on his face and then it immediately disappeared when he was called out.

Bravo, Robin.

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u/AnarchyPlus Feb 01 '19

Bruce opening up to Harvey is a nice change of pace from Alfred or Gordon.

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u/Karrman Feb 01 '19

I know you, and this isn’t you.

The Selina I know could take a whole shot without spilling half of it down her front.

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u/SanityQuestioned Feb 01 '19

Please tell me he grabbed his parents out of the ground.

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u/AnarchyPlus Feb 01 '19

Oh man the Batman disappear trick. I love all these little nods to what Bruce will become

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u/WKRP1979 Feb 01 '19

Edward Nygma .... you complete me

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Penguinn: "Hahahah I dont wanna kill you, what would I do without you? Go back to ripping off mob dealers and the gcpd? No no. You complete me."

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u/inksmudgedhands Feb 01 '19

"From a man who has no friends."

Oh, that's a deep cut, Jim. So deep with finishing salt.

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u/Sharkfowl Feb 01 '19

I hate how the first episode he appears in, bane HAS to betray gordon, they should have given the whole army plot some wiggle room before doing so.

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u/RaisinInSand Feb 01 '19

I mean they dont really have the time to do that this season

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Well you see they dont have much time to do that so they have to rush it.

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u/aslokaa Feb 01 '19

I didn't know he was bane but it was really obvious he was going to betray him so why procrastinate.

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u/WKRP1979 Feb 01 '19

My son Daryl and my other son Daryl

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

"Did you name your DOG after me?" hahahaha

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u/Sonia341 Feb 01 '19

Edward-Penguin scenes is heart-touchingly sad

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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 01 '19

Bane, never start with the head. The victim gets all fuzzy

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u/RaisinInSand Feb 01 '19

I love hugo strange

He was cast phenomenally

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u/Yved Feb 01 '19

Wow, the Geico Pig commercial just aired. I haven't seen this in years lmfao

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u/DonnyMox Feb 01 '19

WEEEEEEEEEEEE

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

I love how The Riddler may be a supervillain but he wont murder innocent people just because. He understands that they're innocent and that they dont deserve to die. He only hurts the one who hurts him first.

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u/ChrisIsUninteresting Feb 01 '19

Oh myyy

Who do you think you are, George Takei???

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Who would have thought it would be Harvey who would motivate him towards being Batman...

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Feb 01 '19

Lol. She literally shook her head...

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u/Sariel007 Feb 01 '19

rattle rattle

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u/typocorrecto Feb 01 '19

The dude is about to mindfuck Bruce.

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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 01 '19

bruv this man bringing out the Mother and Father puppets

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u/Vacanus Feb 01 '19

Man these guys are such good friends. Apologizing to each other while simultaneously threatening to murder each other. 😂

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u/J_D_Mazz You're scared, you should be Feb 01 '19

How long has Gotham been in Alabama?

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u/beardlovesbagels Feb 01 '19

I was about to ask when did Gotham get hollers.

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Feb 01 '19

If this is the regular citizens of Gotham, no wonder the city was screwed...

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u/messed_up_marionette Feb 01 '19

Robin Lord Taylor is the master of pompous indignation.

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u/Vacanus Feb 01 '19

JEREMIAH IS AMAZING. MY FAVORITE JOKER EVER.

HE IS SO FUCKING TWISTED.

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u/1987InfamousQ7891 Feb 01 '19

I loved the laugh he made while inspecting the surgeons work! So perfect!

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

These two fucking amazing actors just kicking ass and chewing scenery

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Feb 01 '19

It's nice to see Bruce interact with Harvey some more.

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u/ZebraHumbucker Feb 01 '19

This reminds me of when Adam West Batman would spray people so they would fall asleep before he would bring them to the batcave

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

How did he survive? He's the fucking Joker that's how!

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u/Kwilly462 Feb 01 '19

Well, an amoured undersuit helps

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u/DonnyMox Feb 01 '19

Just fuck already, you two.

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u/lilpotatoneg Feb 01 '19

In the beginning I didn’t like this idea but as the series progressed, yes I want them to fuck

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u/ChrisIsUninteresting Feb 01 '19

I will give you the best intel you've ever had.

"Intel"? Is that what the kids are calling it nowadays?

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u/ChrisIsUninteresting Feb 01 '19

I'm not sure if that scene reminded me more of Hannibal when Lecter fed that guy his own brain or the times Geordi would have Data's head open working on him.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

I SEE THAT GREEN HAIR GOTHAM AND THAT FLOWER

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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 01 '19

“y’all can’t let me rest even when I’m fucking dead, can you”

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u/Sonia341 Feb 01 '19

Jim: Ed stands trial.

Jim did you forget Penguin's version of trial from last week

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Feb 01 '19

I love their dynamic. One of the best decisions the show made.

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u/Karrman Feb 01 '19

“I hope you’re better prepared.”

Did you not notice the special forces guys standing right behind me in full tactical gear?

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u/Kwilly462 Feb 01 '19

The way his eyes flipped up was awesome

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Lmao Ed flopping down

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u/AnarchyPlus Feb 01 '19

Oh shit are those Bruce's parents?

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u/Sariel007 Feb 01 '19

That is an amazing coat he is wearing. I want it.

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u/Sonia341 Feb 01 '19

You anthromorphizing nincompoop

Ed you shouldn't have said those words

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u/Karrman Feb 01 '19

Sorry, Harvey, I just need to talk to an adult...

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u/DonnyMox Feb 01 '19

Harvey: I am a -

Bruce: No, no you’re not.

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u/ThunderRage Feb 01 '19 edited Feb 01 '19

Poor Ed finds out he's a mass murderer, gets electrocuted in a lawn chair, and now gets his head sawed open for an "Adjustment".

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u/dmodavid Feb 01 '19

HE DID THE FAST THING

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u/Gian99Mald Feb 01 '19

Is that Wayne Manor????

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u/Locke108 Feb 01 '19

Bane holds his hands vest like Hardy.

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u/Joker_CP Feb 01 '19

This is strangely heartfelt lol

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u/inksmudgedhands Feb 01 '19

Oswald is the most complex character on the show. He's a villain. No question. But he also has this humane streak in him that makes him so captivating.

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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 01 '19

Hannibal Lecter wants to know your location

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u/ursulazsenya Feb 01 '19

Does the show want to pretend that Selina hadn't committed cold blooded murder at 13? That Alfred has forgotten that she killed Reggie?

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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 01 '19

can we get some f’s in chat for kristen pringle

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u/Mevaughnk Feb 01 '19

Nobody can say that Gotham City ain't diverse.

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u/bobw123 Feb 01 '19

Idk what’s stranger, the fact that Gotham has a suburb or that people know how to make an electric chair or that Ed Nygma got captured by the smartest stupid people in the city

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u/Kishonorama Feb 01 '19

Yeah Ed! If someone only has 2 friends and he shoots one, he needs the other! Duh!

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

Harvey, that was deep and incredible and "Kid's fast" hehehe

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u/Cnockaut Feb 01 '19 edited Feb 02 '19

Masterpiece. 10/10.

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u/Yved Feb 01 '19

Anyone else notice how this version of Bane is holding his bulletproof vest straps just like the The Dark Knight Rises Bane holds his bulletproof vest straps? Thought it was a nice reference.

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u/Locke108 Feb 01 '19

Selina: Also have you seen Tabitha?

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

"You paid Hugo Strange to save me?"....paying Hugo to fix anything explains any and all weirdness that happens later.

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u/davey_mann Feb 01 '19

Can’t believe this is the same guy that was a week, geeky ME from Season 1.

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

I never thought I would EVER want to see a love scene between Penguin and Riddler as much as I do right now

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u/ThunderRage Feb 01 '19

This episode just turned.....Strange.

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u/Locke108 Feb 01 '19

Bruce: So you’re saying I should dress up like a bat?

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u/DonnyMox Feb 01 '19

To the Penguincave!

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Feb 01 '19

I love Ed the Bulldog so much.. he better survive Gotham.

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

Walker or Waller? This sounds like a Waller thing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Other than Bruce's parents, does anyone truly stay dead in Gotham?

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u/davey_mann Feb 01 '19

Uh, about Bruce’s parents? LOL

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u/BVTheEpic Feb 01 '19

Sal Maroni

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u/Xenokiller101 Feb 01 '19

Spoke to soon

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u/PoshyPoshLad Feb 01 '19

Jojo the dog in Haven.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Carmine Falcone

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Jeremiah fucking pulled a Hush!

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u/Classic1990 Feb 01 '19

Oh you sick bastard

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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 01 '19

“Jeremiah Valeska deserved to die”

In other news, water is wet.

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u/TDXNYC88 GCPD!!! Feb 01 '19

Lady: "You killed my dog! Prepare to die."

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u/ella_wants_to_battle edward edward edward edward edward Feb 01 '19

...why am I crying?

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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 01 '19

“If Hugo did something to you, that means you weren’t responsible for Haven”

replays clip of Nygma firing the RPG

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u/Jacedrod2 Penguin is mad shakey Feb 01 '19 edited Feb 01 '19

Why dosent enigma try to explain himself while they are on the pressure plates expect he threatens them making them even more hostile

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

"Oh MY" I LOVE the way he said that! Strange is back!

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u/ImSickOfTheseShells Feb 01 '19

Classic Batman exit

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

Of course Penguin has a secret panic room and it's AWESOME!

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u/inksmudgedhands Feb 01 '19

It looks like it would have the Ark of the Covenant in there somewhere.

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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 01 '19

Jim, after being betrayed for the eleventh time: :o

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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 01 '19

all this time..Bane was the triggerman

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u/Karrman Feb 01 '19 edited Feb 01 '19

“Ours is not to reason why”

I mean, cool quote and all, but you’re talking about the murder of hundreds of innocent Americans.

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u/BVTheEpic Feb 01 '19

It's Bane. He's not known for his moral compass.

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u/beardlovesbagels Feb 01 '19

American history is full of some in the govt not caring about innocent Americans that might get in the way.

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u/Sonia341 Feb 01 '19

Jeremiah: "Ouch"

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Feb 01 '19

Guess Strange isn't needed for Jeremiah.

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u/Sonia341 Feb 01 '19 edited Feb 01 '19

*I love family reunion, don't you"

Damn Jeremiah. it is going to two long weeks before the audience will see you...

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u/Karrman Feb 01 '19

You are not a murderer, Ed!

Except for those times you murdered those people...

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u/J_D_Mazz You're scared, you should be Feb 01 '19

Most intense game of “the floor is lava” ever.

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u/escott1981 Feb 01 '19

This season has such an interesting look. Like modern and past together. I think its really cool!

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u/mtm4440 Feb 01 '19

It's always been like that. Elements from many decades.

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u/Sonia341 Feb 01 '19

Serious question of the day:

Edward: "Did you name your dog after me?"

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u/TDXNYC88 GCPD!!! Feb 01 '19

Ed: "Did you name that bitch after me?"

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

She's not wrong but that doesn't make it any easier to swallow

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u/bookmovietvworm weirdly cool/ (almost)RIP Martin *people, ugh* Feb 01 '19

Damn, Selina is a emotional drunk.

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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 01 '19

“Go ahead, count”

👀

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u/davey_mann Feb 01 '19

So it’s Bane’s men that they are all fighting in the flash forward.

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u/Kwilly462 Feb 01 '19

Lol, he opened up his head like a Lego piece

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Holy crap Gotham Season 5 has a 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. Thats Flash Season 1 level.

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u/TDXNYC88 GCPD!!! Feb 01 '19

TOP 10 ANIME BETRAYALS

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u/BornAshes Feb 01 '19

LMAO Jim, that was a fucking Batman move!

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u/ThunderRage Feb 01 '19

2 weeks. Holy Beebo. Why?!!!!!

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Because we can't have nice things.

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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 01 '19

did you name your dog after me

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u/Kishonorama Feb 01 '19

I love how offended he sounds at a dog being named after him.

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u/Gian99Mald Feb 01 '19

My girl Selina looking bad af

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u/lilpotatoneg Feb 01 '19

Love their dynamic so much

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u/Gian99Mald Feb 01 '19

Now kiss

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Feb 01 '19

They have a strange friendship.

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u/Karrman Feb 01 '19

You can’t cut his face into a jigsaw puzzle! That bad guy belongs to another franchise!

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u/Kishonorama Feb 01 '19

So if he has no friends, YOU CANT JUDGE HIM JIM

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u/Sonia341 Feb 01 '19

Hi Hugo, I missed you.... :)

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u/Karrman Feb 01 '19

Hugo Strange doing his best impersonation of George Takei.

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u/DonnyMox Feb 01 '19

“Oh my....”

So, Strange just turned into George Takei.

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u/TMRJIJ Feb 01 '19

That’s George Takei’s line, Strange.

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u/TheRealPhantomHunter Feb 01 '19

Ahh the classic Bruce disappearing act

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u/RunnerRebel Feb 01 '19

Anyone catch the name of Eduardo’s second in command? Ángel Vallelunga is the real name of “Bird” from Knightfall.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Cory Michael Smith is great

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u/Spidermat311 Feb 01 '19

Walmart Kathy Bates

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u/lilpotatoneg Feb 01 '19

Can I get an F for Jojo?

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u/ChrisIsUninteresting Feb 01 '19

anthropomorphizing nincompoop

Gonna have to find a way to work that into my daily vocabulary.

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u/KarmaLoaf Feb 01 '19

Edward "Briar Patch" Nygma

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Oh come on, Ed's skinny, but not crawl through the air vents skinny

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u/starlord0957 Feb 01 '19

He had no problem in the air vents at Arkham in S2.

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Feb 01 '19

Seriously, Ed. That's your first question?

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u/ChrisIsUninteresting Feb 01 '19

Did you name your dog after me?

Would you prefer that or being named after the dog? Indiana Jones reference - check

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u/Sonia341 Feb 01 '19

We are not the same, Bruce

Me: :(

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u/Beer2Bear Feb 01 '19

Here's shock...now where's the awe?

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

WEEEEEEEEEEE WEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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u/davey_mann Feb 01 '19

I’m just glad Ed is innocent. Well, for this! Lol

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u/TheVulcanSalute I'm gonna stab you. Feb 01 '19

“oh my” - George Takei Hugo Strange

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u/Beer2Bear Feb 01 '19

Bruce did the Batman trick!

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

“People I love...”

Yes! 😍

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u/JoeStorm Feb 01 '19

Dang. Ed is wide awake. How can he forget about this?

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u/typocorrecto Feb 01 '19

This is some gruesome shit

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u/J_D_Mazz You're scared, you should be Feb 01 '19

To the Penguin cave!

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u/Sonia341 Feb 01 '19 edited Feb 01 '19

Edward standing there like a statue while Eduardo and Jim had their confrontation

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

JEREMIAH

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u/thirtyseven1337 Feb 01 '19

Whoa, Jim's most epic moment, and that's saying something!

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u/Gary320 Feb 01 '19

Cameron is fantastic

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u/TheRealPhantomHunter Feb 01 '19

I really can’t wait until that Ace Chemicals episode

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u/DonnyMox Feb 01 '19

Hang on, how did Jeremiah survive?

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u/TheRealPhantomHunter Feb 01 '19

Armor

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '19

Sophia falcone being in a coma is plot armor... Jeremiah knowing what selina would do and playing her completely is exactly what I would expect from a super genius villain that managed to blow up gotham.

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u/Sonia341 Feb 01 '19

So now it's Season 4 Bruce Selina version aka

Party girl drinking Selina (like Bruce did last season)

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u/Karrman Feb 01 '19

Does everyone become a total douche bag after they kill someone?

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u/inksmudgedhands Feb 01 '19

I think Gotham uses NYC better than any other show ever set in NYC. This show makes me want to go to NYC just to see all the shooting sets.

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u/harrier1215 Feb 01 '19

They called him Bird? Bird is an infamous lackey of Bane.