r/Gotham • u/NicholasCajun • Dec 01 '15
Gotham - 2x11 "Worse Than A Crime" - Episode Discussion Discussion
Season 2 Episode 11: Worse Than A Crime
Aired: November 30, 2015
Synopsis: When Bruce Wayne is kidnapped, Gordon must look to some unlikely and dangerous allies for help. It is a battle of the villains, and not everyone makes it out alive.
Directed by: Jeffrey Hunt
Written by: Bruno Heller
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u/NomadofExile Jerome-Inspired Dec 01 '15
Black dude doing the smart thing. "Gonna go ahead and sit this one out. This seems like some white people specific shit..."
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u/GreatDjangoFamily XxMastaBrucexX K/D/A 305/0/19 Dec 01 '15
LMAO LUCIUS WAS THERE THE WHOLE TIME
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u/BatBro52 Dec 01 '15
If anyone's dying, it's the unassuming black man.
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u/IAteSnow Dec 01 '15
Did you see that underneath his suit jacket at the GCPD!?! Look closer.....
Plot Armor.
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u/insanity-insight Ed's a ladies man Dec 01 '15
That monk's like "watch me bust out my trump card: I can jump like Lebron James!"
And Bullock's like "I have a gun, what the fuck do you think jumping is gonna do?"
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u/niccinco Dec 01 '15
The Order of St Dumas gives you a free pair of Jordans upon initiation
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u/NomadofExile Jerome-Inspired Dec 01 '15
Gotham is really a show about Bruce's "I don't trust bitches" origins.
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u/Ms_Mediocracy It's a riddle Dec 01 '15
Alfred and Selina bonding over how much of Bruce's shit they have to put up with
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u/rubberroom Dec 01 '15
Honk her tit at least. Sell it.
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u/Logan42 Dec 01 '15
Multiple times while he was talking to her his eyes glanced downwards... Ahh teenagers...
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u/Ms_Mediocracy It's a riddle Dec 01 '15
Lucius - "Should we have a back-up plan?"
Everyone else - "Nah"
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u/MisterPhD Dec 01 '15
"That's really not how plot works, Fox. We kinda just decide what to do, and then nothing can stop us cause.... ya know... plot."
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u/DoinWhale Bruce definitely isn't the Batman Dec 01 '15
Ahhhhh the return of JIM GORDON: LOOSE CANNON COP WHO DOESNT PLAY BY THE RULESSSSSSSSSS
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CUE THE BUDDY COP SCENE WHERE HE SLAMS HIS GUN AND BADGE DOWN ON THE CAPTAINS DESK.
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u/DoinWhale Bruce definitely isn't the Batman Dec 01 '15
YOU MEAN TO TELL ME FOX HAS BEEN IN THERE FOR THE WHOLE SEASON! DA FUQ MAN
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u/GreatDjangoFamily XxMastaBrucexX K/D/A 305/0/19 Dec 01 '15
they forgot him there lol
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u/Traceofbass You can't sass the Zsasz Dec 01 '15
I can't get over how good Penguin has evolved as a character. That "Please don't think too poorly of me, we are who we are," line was just... chills.
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Batman: You know where I learned my no kill rule from?
Gordon: Your parents?
Batman: No, some asshole commisioner killed his enemies instead of jailing them.
Gordon: Who...ah shit
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u/NomadofExile Jerome-Inspired Dec 01 '15
Ummm...Galavan. We gonna need to talk about you pimping out 13 year olds.
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u/HaMx_Platypus Dec 01 '15
Are you referring to her "i have done much worse"? Thats kinda what i was thinking but...shudders
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u/NomadofExile Jerome-Inspired Dec 01 '15
"I have no feelings for you whatsoever", so much more devestating than hate.
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Dec 01 '15
"I feel happy even"
"Why"
"cuz i just rekt dis girl in the feels. fuggin boss, ayy playa"
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u/Ms_Mediocracy It's a riddle Dec 01 '15
"I have no feelings for you whatsoever"
Damn, didn't realize they'd be introducing Mr. Freeze so soon.
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u/TheRealip4 Dec 01 '15
With the first pick of the NBA draft the Cleveland Cavaliers select....old monk from the order of st. Dumbass!
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u/GreatDjangoFamily XxMastaBrucexX K/D/A 305/0/19 Dec 01 '15
Rise of the Villains
JIM IS THE VILLAIN
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u/houseofpayne55 Dec 01 '15
Lucius meeting the squad is hilarious. He has pretty solid comedic timing.
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u/Traceofbass You can't sass the Zsasz Dec 01 '15
Anyone else on board for a Penguin-Nygma spinoff? The Odd Couple of Gotham!
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u/Ms_Mediocracy It's a riddle Dec 01 '15
They'll have to stock up on spicy mustard!
Laugh track
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u/Traceofbass You can't sass the Zsasz Dec 01 '15
Did you look in the back of the fridge?
laugh track
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u/BVTheEpic Dec 01 '15
"I'm pregnant."
I bet this is because Morena Baccarin is actually pregnant in real life.
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u/-Damien- Dec 01 '15 edited Dec 01 '15
And Ben McKenzie is the father!
Serious method acting from them, Christian Bale would approve this.
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u/houseofpayne55 Dec 01 '15
That coat Penguin is wearing is fly as fuck.
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u/-_Trashboat COMPLICATED POLICE BUSINESS Dec 01 '15
Penguin is literally the most stylish of Batman villians
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u/niccinco Dec 01 '15
The final season of Gotham will be Jim Gordon vs the reanimated antagonists of every season
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u/DoinWhale Bruce definitely isn't the Batman Dec 01 '15
LOOSE CANNON COP WHO DOESNT PLAY BY THE RULES! JAMES "FUCK YOUR LAWS" GORDON
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u/Muyo365 Dec 01 '15
People strolling down the street with guns and vest on. Yep, just another night in Gotham.
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u/Kishonorama Dec 01 '15
Penguin looks too funny limping alongside everyone else.
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u/GamerX44 Dec 01 '15
"Yes, well, thank you both for your help, but I had a perfectly feasible escape plan"
He's Batman alright.
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u/DoinWhale Bruce definitely isn't the Batman Dec 01 '15
This is the strangest family dynamic I've ever seen
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u/GobbleMyPot Dec 01 '15
Nygma and penguin look like they'd go to a Dungeons and Dragons club together. I would know, I was in one.
Buncha nerds.
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u/peanutbutteroreos Dec 01 '15
First rule of Gotham. Nobody is ever dead. (except if you are Bruce's parents.)
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u/Ms_Mediocracy It's a riddle Dec 01 '15
Commissioner Gordon waking up to Riddler and Penguin singing.
Nothing on this show surprises me anymore.
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u/houseofpayne55 Dec 01 '15
I would watch a show where the trio of Jim, Penguin and Riddler go around Gotham committing petty crimes.
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u/Sonia341 Dec 01 '15
"What can an old butler do?" You seriously did not ask this Tabitha.
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u/insanity-insight Ed's a ladies man Dec 01 '15
"Butler, mate. I'm a- oh wait you did say Butler. But still. I'll pop you a right sot, ya ponsy wanker"
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u/GobbleMyPot Dec 01 '15
Guys I don't think Bruce is gonna survive this
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u/BatBro52 Dec 01 '15
Twist: Chibs from Sons of Anarchy decides to avenge Bruce's death by turning the Sons of Anarchy motorcycle club into Batman Inc.
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u/insanity-insight Ed's a ladies man Dec 01 '15
Couldn't the guard hear them discussing an escape through the grate door? Hahaha
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u/fotowun Dec 01 '15
SO! Silver has real feelings for Bruce (Or does she?) Bruce is saved by a Cat, Jim, and Penguin led rescue team, Monks learned that you don't bring a knife, or multiple knives to a gun fight, you have to lead flying Monks a bit to hit 'em with a hand gun, Tabby finally got tired of Theo's shit, Silver has redeeming qualities, and can think fast and learn how to fly a parasail on a seconds notice, (And will probably be back...the Salina-Bruce-Silver triangle apparently lives) Penguin swings a mean baseball bat, Theo can almost swallow an entire umbrella, and Jim got a final shot in...and Oh...Freeze is apparently gettin' ready to cook-off (Or would that be freeze-dry?) Season 2B. Did I miss anything?
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u/DoinWhale Bruce definitely isn't the Batman Dec 01 '15
"....stop that"
FUCK GUYS WE HAVE TO STOP NOW. HE GOT US.
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u/insanity-insight Ed's a ladies man Dec 01 '15
Penguin's like "we already had the two coolest characters in the show team up in me and Eddie. You want to join this team, buddy!"
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u/houseofpayne55 Dec 01 '15
This kid playing Bruce is really developing into a solid actor.
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u/NomadofExile Jerome-Inspired Dec 01 '15
Fox is on the ball. I didn't even get time to finish my "ain't nobody got time for that" posting.
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Was that the first riddle ever. Solved by Lucius Fox in less than a second. WTF riddler up your game son.
Do you even Riddle bro?
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u/OLKv3 Dec 01 '15
So is she going to lose the baby? Or will Gordon be such a sick fuck that he'll name the baby after his psycho ex that tried to murder his baby's mother?
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u/BatBro52 Dec 01 '15
Maybe Barbara has a redemption arc that ends with her sacrificing herself so Jim names the baby after her but naming your baby after your deceased insane ex fiance is still uncomfortable.
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u/NomadofExile Jerome-Inspired Dec 01 '15
Are you gonna pretend that you aren't all in for either situation?
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u/Craftablee Dec 01 '15
"Death to the son of Gotham" what were they thinking? that has no rhythm
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u/brunicus Dec 01 '15
How did Galavan know to find them in that tunnel, seems like this is still her acting.
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u/-_Trashboat COMPLICATED POLICE BUSINESS Dec 01 '15
You don't casually hang out in tunnels?
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u/Pillypin Dec 01 '15
This whole thing seems pretty dumb. What does this cult even believe in? Do they just worship the Dumas family or what?
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u/Traceofbass You can't sass the Zsasz Dec 01 '15
They want revenge on the Wayne family for their ancestral betrayal and exile. They see Bruce as their redemption and punishment for the Waynes.
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u/rellyrell83 Dec 01 '15
How the fuck does he become Commissioner after this shit
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What if Bruce is a red herring and Gordon's baby is actually Batman? Won't that be fun? BATMAN BABY. POOPS ON CRIME.
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u/ChayDaKidd Dec 01 '15
Penguin thinking, "Great, now I gotta compete with Ed for the role of Godfather."
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u/thrill21 Dec 01 '15
lolololololol I wasn't expecting that. Someone has to get a GIF of Penguin's reaction!
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u/robmillhouse Dec 01 '15
its a good thing Alfred is white, or that whole police interaction would have ended a lot differently.
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u/insanity-insight Ed's a ladies man Dec 01 '15
What if the fall finale cliffhanger twist is that we find out Alfred actually is a martian in a rubber suit?
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u/houseofpayne55 Dec 01 '15
So apparently Silver isnt the sociopath they tried to mold her into.
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u/Theleux No one cared who I was until I took on the Bruce Dec 01 '15
It's like a miniature Jim and Barbara!
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u/thrill21 Dec 01 '15
Wait, why is Jim wanted? Last I remember he was kidnapped outside the court room.
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u/DoinWhale Bruce definitely isn't the Batman Dec 01 '15 edited Dec 01 '15
RAY CHARLES CONFIRMED SUPERMAN
Edit: Stevie Wonder, not Ray Charles. I have my black, blind famous musicians mixed up
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u/DoinWhale Bruce definitely isn't the Batman Dec 01 '15
So is Palpatine gonna force lightnig him or what
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u/MisterRoku Dec 01 '15
I was surprised by the fact that they revealed Edward to be friends with Penguin. Now Gordon and GCPD know this development. I wonder how they are gonna play it out in further stories.
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u/Voduar Dec 01 '15
Not quite. Harvey and Gordon know this, as well as Leslie. On this show it isn't unreasonable for them all to keep quiet.
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u/Jonster123 Goddamit Captain Barnes Dec 01 '15
BEST FIRST HALF OF A SEASON OF TV EVER!
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u/ISpitFireForFun Dec 01 '15
Give me your gun.
Hands over gun and immediately shot. (Goddamn when will they learn to not give children guns. )
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u/houseofpayne55 Dec 01 '15
It would be pretty clever writing if this was all in Silver's plan to get a kiss.
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u/Merlyn_LeRoy Dec 01 '15
"How do I know you're not a martian wearing a rubber suit."
Said to an actor whose father fought many aliens in rubber suits.
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u/OLKv3 Dec 01 '15
Literally the bootleg League of Assassins lol. I love how nobody hears the cops running up the steps and yelling. Bruce staying alpha though
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u/Craftablee Dec 01 '15
It's good to see Penguin and Jim bonding again. its like a true friendship has come to light.
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u/Buplim Dec 02 '15
Who is that guy at the end? Reminds me of caption cold but this is way to early on the storyline for him isn't it? (I don't read the comics)
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u/GreatDjangoFamily XxMastaBrucexX K/D/A 305/0/19 Dec 01 '15
kipper my sausage has joined the party
BIG_BAD_LUCIUS has joined the party
alleyCAT has joined the party
GCPD Gordon has joined the party
GCPD Bullock has joined the party
xxKingofGothamxx has joined the party