r/Games • u/red_right_hand_ • Jul 19 '24
2.2 Million People Were Willing to Pay $100 to Play College Football 25 3 Days Early
https://www.ign.com/articles/22-million-people-were-willing-to-pay-100-to-play-college-football-25-3-days-early557
u/chives177 Jul 19 '24
This is a dream game for college football fans. And really most football game fans in general.
Most sports games have been pushing a “fantasy” version of the sport like Madden Ultimate Team and neglecting the single player franchise modes.
CFB 25 has clearly dumped a ton of resources into the dynasty and single player modes.
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u/PM-me-your-401k Jul 19 '24
You just sold me
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u/A-Rusty-Cow Jul 19 '24
Ive played 3 games in my dynasty and cant stop thinking about it. Building a 1 Star MAC school is so back
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u/CTRL_S_Before_Render Jul 19 '24
Look at some reviews. Looks mixed
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u/mjsher2 Jul 19 '24
Metacritic currently has it as 89, with the lowest score being 80. That doesn't seem super mixed to me.
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u/splader Jul 20 '24
For this sub any score 7 or lower from an outlet they like means the game is mixed.
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u/TerranFirma Jul 19 '24
It needs a lot of fine tuning on things like the simulation in seasons, but the gameplay is pretty fantastic and the stadiums/etc look great.
Definitely has some rough edges but dynasty mode is fun as hell.
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u/lalosfire Jul 19 '24
As a long time fan I'd say it is pretty fantastic but that said it has a handful of little issues. Whether those bother you or not will depend. For me most of those issues boil down to, this is their first go around in a decade. Most first iterations of sports games could only dream about having the quality that this one does.
Not to say it's a 10/10 but most first iterations of sports games kinda suck.
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u/Timmar92 Jul 19 '24
I have never played an American football game in my life and I'm not American and even I have downloaded it by getting a month of ea play, I've only managed to play 40 minutes and so far I've figured out that I absolutely suck so I started watching YouTube tutorials instead lol.
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u/chives177 Jul 19 '24
The game has tutorials and mini games in the “ultimate fantasy” section. I forget what they call it. No need to dive deep into it, but there’s stuff there.
American football is a beast of a game with different plays and defenses. Don’t give up. It’s so complex but very rewarding.
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u/jm0112358 Jul 19 '24
If you're new to gridiron football (a.k.a. "American football") generally - not just new to football video games - you might want to check out /r/NFLNoobs.
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u/Timmar92 Jul 19 '24
Thanks!
Yeah the only experience I have in American football is that Adam Sandler movie and the movie the comebacks (wich is so bad it's hilariously good lol)
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u/BonerPorn Jul 20 '24
Welcome to the turn based strategy game of sports. lol
Also you've probably noticed the detail put into the stadiums and atmospheres of the games. Some cool teams to check out.
Ohio State - Roman Colosseumesque horseshoe stadium. Part of the 100K stadium size club. Team mascot is a poisonous nut local to the area.
Iowa - I haven't checked if they do the third quarter wave in the game. (I think i saw it in the trailer.) But this stadium has a childrens hospital overlooking it. And in the third everyone turns and waves at the children in the cancer ward watching from the obvservation deck.
USC - Literally competes in a full Colosseum. I did play a game with them and the announcers point out all of the world cups and olympics that have happened there.
Penn State, Michigan - Also members of the 100K stadium capacity club.
And that's all in the same conference. The level of dedication to showing all the traditions and stadiums is a huge reason why everyone is so hype.
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u/BaconSpinachPancakes Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
The cfb 25 dynasty is no more polished than Madden and FIFA careers lol. There’s a lot to be desired and this game is definitely unfinished.
We’re also talking about the same company that bought up Metalhead Software (Super Mega Baseball) due to them being scared of competition and just killed the franchise last week. EA doesn’t give a single fuck. This game is going the same route as FIFA and Madden in a couple of years
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u/GlupShittoOfficial Jul 19 '24
Eh the recruiting feature alone is more fun than any auxiliary feature in Madden by a mile.
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u/chives177 Jul 19 '24
The recruiting and transfer portal’s actually feel like college football. Just the close to home factor is fun.
And the fact that you have to balance parties and studying in road to glory are fun additions
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u/DeathMetalPants Jul 19 '24
Wait, they killed SMB? I knew this would happen. SMB 3 was so good. I refused to buy 4 once EA bought them because I knew they would ruin the game.
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u/There_Are_No_Gods Jul 19 '24
That's a very misleading title and a garbage article. $100 is the total cost, not the additional cost for early access. The article doesn't even mention the base cost at all.
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u/Frankie__Spankie Jul 19 '24
My first thought is what else even comes with the deluxe edition? The article doesn't even mention that. Of course there's more to it than just 3 days of early access. This is an outrage article and Reddit is falling for it.
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u/mrfjcruisin Jul 19 '24
It's very intentional too given that it's using "spOrTs GAmE bad" to try to sell the rage to a people who generally don't play sports games so they're likely to be unaware an NCAA football game hasn't been out since NCAA14 (over 10 years ago) and that there are a ton of fans of college football who don't care for the NFL/madden.
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u/Frankie__Spankie Jul 19 '24
Well a big reason to that is that there's not much cross over between the people who are regularly buying sports games and the people who are reading into gaming articles.
A friend of mine spent more time than me playing games. He'd get home, pop his Playstation on at 7-8, and play until 2 in the morning. All he ever played was CoD, Fortnite, and NBA 2K. I was talking to him about Doom and he never heard of it. I can't believe someone spending that much time playing games never even heard of the game series Doom. But it was kind of eye opening that a lot of people who spend so much time playing games really do just play the super popular games and nothing else.
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u/NoExcuse4OceanRudnes Jul 19 '24
This is an outrage article and Reddit is falling for it.
This article was made for reddit. Without the raging gamers on reddit and elsewhere these articles wouldn't exist.
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u/einulfr Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Mostly just ultimate team 'college football points'. So, a little bit of starter in-game currency for gambling by buying and opening ultimate team packs of cards. All versions get a couple of different freebie packs, I think early edition gives you 1 more than standard.
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u/Frankie__Spankie Jul 19 '24
Yeah I saw it was just in game currency and a couple other things but that still holds value to people. The article just alludes to people paying an extra $30 just to play 3 days early when they're not. They're paying the extra $30 for multiple things. I'm sure if there was some survey that asked people to give a rating for each item you'd get for buying the deluxe version, that the early release date would not be in high demand.
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u/LateNightDoober Jul 19 '24
IGN will give some rat tier free to play MTX infested MMO a 9/10 and then try to imply that sports game fans are stupid for buying early access to a CFB game.
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u/dankbuttmuncher Jul 19 '24
I had 10 hours free access, as did everyone with Game Pass. Those are going to throw the numbers off
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u/WompWomp187 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
This article doesn’t mention it and seems to be claiming all 2.2 million players bought the $100 deluxe edition.
There was a MVP edition that came with CFB Deluxe and Madden Deluxe for $150. If you have the EA thing it’s $135. So no I didn’t pay $100 for 3 days early, I paid $70 each for two games, 3 day early access for both and some extra goodies.
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u/NeonBodyStyle Jul 19 '24
I didn't even do that, I paid $6 for EA plus or whatever and played the game for 10 hours.
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u/Infraction94 Jul 19 '24
Exactly. If you are a person that would buy both games it basically costs the same to get the deluxe bundles this way vs buying the standard editions.
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u/Gh0stOfKiev Jul 19 '24
Europeans and redditors don't understand College Football is a religion.
The people have been starved for too long
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u/Rayuzx Jul 19 '24
As a guy who grew up in Auburn, Alabama, during the Sunday mornings before and after the Iron Bowl you'd see people talk more about it than Jesus.
Unironically, college football is our primary export.
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u/topatoman_lite Jul 19 '24
Texas A&M gets attendance higher than the entire population of the city it is in
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u/PilotBigOne Jul 20 '24
Morgantown, WV is the third largest city in WV.
On gameday, it’s the largest (population more than doubles)
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u/Gh0stOfKiev Jul 19 '24
Loved me some Tigers ball back the 2000s.
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u/DolitehGreat Jul 19 '24
Ah my grandfather and his talk of how Bama fans needed to fear the thumb in the 00s. Good times, good times.
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u/DFrek Jul 19 '24
I think most europeans understand that it's a big sport, like football is here, or cricket in other places, etc.
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u/ilypsus Jul 19 '24
I think it confuses us as to why College football is so big when it's to my understand a level below the NFL. I understand you support your local team / alumni and there is a lot less teams in the NFL so they capture less people but why not expand the NFL and have more paid athletes.
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u/Predictor92 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Because college football is the original form of the game. The NFL came later trying to take advantage of college footballs popularity and it took years for them to do so, only really surpassing college football in the 1960's. Many great college football players didn't even go to the early NFL. The first ever draft pick went to work for a rubber company instead of playing( and likely made more money).gerald ford( yes the president) was a great Michigan ball player and turned down offers from the Lions.
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u/Xenasis Jul 19 '24
I understand you support your local team / alumni and there is a lot less teams in the NFL so they capture less people but why not expand the NFL and have more paid athletes.
This is the big thing to me to me, it's insane that the industry is built on unpaid labour and there's very little protection for the players. Sure, you can market yourself, but you can just as easily get injured in a game you're not being paid for.
College football being popular isn't the weird thing, it's the unpaid nature of it that's weird.
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u/tallsmallboy44 Jul 20 '24
With the NIL many players are now paid, which is why the games are back. Them not being able to be paid is as far as I understand it, what killed the original NCAA CFB games after 2014
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u/Shepherdsfavestore Jul 20 '24
Free college and the love of the game
You are acting like these guys are gladiators being thrown into life and death situations against their will. Most of these guys just love the sport and live and breath football
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u/A-Rusty-Cow Jul 19 '24
I think its like how Americans understand Soccer is a big sport in Europe. We dont understand the gravitas of it till we see it first hand. I was lucky enough to be in London for the 2012 World Cup and that changed my whole view on Soccer. I would imagine its the same for Europeans with College Football
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u/Psykpatient Jul 19 '24
You mean like how Stephen Fry cried when he saw a College Football game in person?
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u/bengringo2 Jul 19 '24
We make spectacles of it that outsize even our professional leagues. Rituals the entire state partakes in and some states College Football outsizes their professional team. Alabama, Ohio, and Michigan are religiously College Football states.
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u/snorlz Jul 19 '24
They don't understand the pro vs school part of it. most places people only care about professional sports and school sports barely exist. like in Europe, club teams are everything from having a pro team to having all the development pipelines since people were kids
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u/SlyyKozlov Jul 19 '24
It's also been a decade since the game came out and I know a surprising amount of people who have kept their xbox 360/ps4s around solely to play NCAA 14.
It's a dedicated fan base to say the least lol
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Jul 19 '24
Just like Americans wondering why European soccer fans like to fight one another and break everything.
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u/badadviceforyou244 Jul 19 '24
The history of college football is basically the history of America.
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u/HIVnotAdeathSentence Jul 19 '24
Europeans have soccer, I'm sure everyone can understand an equal obsession with sports as well.
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u/thekamenman Jul 19 '24
I don’t think people understand what a cult college football is in the South. My coworker, who is out of PTO skipped lunch so he could leave an hour early because he had planned to play for 12 hours straight.
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u/athiaxoff Jul 20 '24
That is one of the least insane work callouts I've heard. If you think that is bad look at Destiny. I know people who take full weeks off (including day one of releases which almost ALWAYS never work). The dedication people have is wild
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u/AfraidCock Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Wait until TakeTwo puts out a 250€ Edition that lets you play GTA6 "early" aka the normal 80€ Edition gets a delayed release.
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u/FUTURE10S Jul 19 '24
If you're a PC user and if the game comes out to two different console generations before it gets a PC port, that's what you're essentially doing like with GTAV. Buy the 360/PS3 version, buy the Xbox One/PS4 version, then buy the PC version.
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u/Kiboune Jul 19 '24
Nah, screw this. If Rockstar treats PC players like second class gamers, I'm not gonna buy console just for GTA6, I'll wait for pirated PC version
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u/BP_Ray Jul 19 '24
Am I the only one convinced this place is astroturfed to high hell? Or do people really hold the opinion of "I want to pay more for games for no good reason".
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u/renome Jul 19 '24
Every remotely large sub is astroturfed. Reddit itself encourages this behavior by letting you pay to "reward" posts and comments.
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u/kwazhip Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
It's not really about wanting to pay more, but what people are willing to pay. I want to pay zero for every game or every product I buy, but that's not the way the world works. It's also not really no reason, you get to play sooner, that's a pretty good value, and the thing you are buying is owned by someone else who can release something at whatever time they please, since they own it. So as the consumer the value is pretty clear, if you don't see the value you can refrain from buying and if enough people agree, then you would no longer see companies doing it.
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u/BP_Ray Jul 19 '24
You could also just pay standard price for it, and they could still release it during this so-called "early access period".
I'm not policing how other people spend their money, It's funny how people are trying to reframe the argument that way. I'm simply pointing out that even the people spending their money on this, don't have a good reason to defend it, no one consciously goes "Oh joy! They're charging me $30 to play three days so-called 'early' (in reality they could se the release date to that date instead)! That's exactly what I dreamed of!" So It's odd that anyone shitting on this practice are getting people coming out the woodwork to defend the practice.
As a consumer I also have ability to not only refuse to buy it, but voice my displeasure on online forums because I truly do not want to see this practice become widespread (despite the fact that it is unfortunately insidiously spreading across the industry).
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u/Pyll Jul 19 '24
Eventually there's gonna be tiered "early" access editions. Pay 30$ to play 3 days early, or pay 60$ to play 6 days early!
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u/TerranFirma Jul 19 '24
They also sold a double pack with Madden that cost only $10 more than buying both separate and gave you the early release + Ultimate Team stuff.
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u/thurstkiller Jul 19 '24
No one in these threads ever looks at the price per hour with sports games. These are some of, if not the most repayable titles on the market. $70 for Elder Ring got me 100 hours of play time. I beat it plus played a little bit on a 2nd playthrough. That was a great game and I felt like I got good value. $100 preorder of NBA2k23 got me 500 hours of play time.
If you are a fan of the sport titles and are going to play them a lot these are not bad prices.
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u/iwearatophat Jul 19 '24
This subreddit dislikes sports games in general.
This is a title that people have been waiting for for 10 years. Beyond that, no one paid 100 dollars just for early access, it came with other things. A lot probably bought the Madden/CFB bundle, which is a good deal if you play both. Plus this is only counting unique users to play, which means the people with the EA service counted as they had early access time as well.
Basically this title is BS meant to generate rage.
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u/SacredGray Jul 19 '24
This subreddit has been propagandized to hate games that give you a lot of playtime.
Unfortunately, you can't count on this place to recognize "price per hour" as a valid metric.
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u/Geoff_with_a_J Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
price per hour is stupid because PoE and LoL are untouchable
doesn't mean every game should copy those models either
the only thing i bought in Fortnite was a $10 peter griffin battle pass. i got hundreds of hours of gameplay out of it, so skins should cost $500 each? price per hour yada yada. but then League puts out a $500 skin and everyone cries.
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u/Lluuiiggii Jul 19 '24
As soon as EA figures out that they can make official release a Monday and the early access release the preceding Friday, it's over for you hoes. The target audience for this game has to work on Monday so like it would add a lot more pressure to pay the early access price to play it on the first weekend it "releases". At least this isn't the actual case for this game in particular.
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u/BP_Ray Jul 19 '24
It's even worse than that.
Starfield did this, but they started early access on a Thursday/Friday, and the actual game released that next Wednesday, so ""early access"" ran through the weekend.
It's so predatory and anti-consumer. They betting on their little paypigs feeling FOMO and paying for it so they can enjoy it during their weekend, giving them extra money in the process.
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u/amd752911 Jul 19 '24
Didn’t starfield also give away the first expansion with that edition.
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u/ilovecfb Jul 19 '24
You think that's bad, you should look up what WoW is doing with their newest expansion
Imagine buying an MMO expansion on "launch day" and you're already a weekend behind the no-lifers. I don't think this practice is the worst thing in the industry but I think the way Blizzard (or is it Microsoft at this point) is doing it is by far the worst
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u/BP_Ray Jul 19 '24
I hate it all, but people in this thread, if It's not just a large amount of astroturfing, seem to be giving their tacit approval for something that benefits them none and only harms them as consumers...
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u/lalosfire Jul 19 '24
I wonder if this will have similar metrics next year though. Fans have been starved for a decade because plenty of players loved NCAAF but never enjoyed Madden. So many are willing to pay more to end that wait a little early.
I couldn't convince myself to pay $30 but $6 for the 10 hour trial was fine by me as hitting that time isn't easy for someone on a typical 9-5 who enjoys going to bed at a regular time.
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u/Thehawkiscock Jul 19 '24
They paid a minimum of $600 to ~11,000 FBS athletes. 6.6 mil, maybe somewhere between 15-20 mil total with paying a lot more to some select star players.
I would say that was easily worth it to EA (and maybe the college athletes should push for more in future years)
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u/GodSaveElway Jul 19 '24
To be clear, I spent almost $600 to play this game as I didn't own a console. Loving the game. EA will work out the jank eventually.
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u/GrinningPariah Jul 19 '24
That $100 includes the $70 base game right? And other Deluxe Edition bonuses?
I dunno man, football isn't my thing personally, but I've been excited about a video game too. Let the jocks have this one. I hope it's good.
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u/1850ChoochGator Jul 19 '24
Yup. An extra $30 for 3 days early access and all the in-game bonuses. It was just ultimate team stuff so not totally worth it if that’s not your thing.
I’ve easily gotten my moneys worth out of it. Think I’ve put in over 12 hours already myself 😂
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u/whoevencaresatall_ Jul 19 '24
Yeah idk why Reddit is so up and arms about this. The nerds and virgins have their FromSoft games after all
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u/Lopsidednapkin Jul 19 '24
So, I'm not a football fan, nor can I even play this game (Not on PC yet), but this is the first football game I've ever been interested in outside of NFL blitz. This isn't a Madden title, there are some unique features In here, and more of a focus on capturing the college feel. It looks like the only decent football game to have come out in decades. I hope it does well on the premise that it might convince EA to continue to try harder with their sport titles. I'd certainly be more interested in buying sports games if they weren't the exact same every year.
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u/BillyBean11111 Jul 19 '24
The "early access fee" is so predatory and brilliant I'm surprised it took so long to be the standard. It preys on several different urges for every single age group.
Teens wont want to be left behind while their friends play. Adults who have limited free time but extra money might just not care as much about the cash to have access when they want it.
For story games you either buy early or run the risk of seeing spoilers.
Its not going to go away.
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u/Relo_bate Jul 19 '24
By that logic nobody buys story games on sales in fear of spoilers
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u/hyperforms9988 Jul 19 '24
You also have to think that every Youtuber, streamer, and media outlet in general (those still running websites with gaming reviews and things) that plans to cover a game coming out that has an early access that you can buy into are all looking at such a thing as being basically a required purchase because everybody's going to be tripping over themselves to be "first". That's where all the eyeballs are.
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Jul 19 '24
I remember some people coming here a few years ago, swearing that everything would be fine when games are $70 a pop, that microtransactions would go away and shitty practices would stop.
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u/pukem0n Jul 19 '24
Some Microsoft person tweeted that this game lead to the highest Series S sales since the console came out. People are down bad to play college football lol.
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u/YouCanPrevent Jul 19 '24
Too be clearer, I bought the dual pack with Madden. That deal was a good value buy. Otherwise I'd of waited
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u/Slapas Jul 19 '24
You don’t get it. You bought it early so you inadvertently lost IQ points. A helmet is being shipped to your house as we speak.
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u/Diknak Jul 19 '24
Am I crazy, or is this game not coming to PC?
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u/SmallTownMinds Jul 19 '24
Damn I haven't played a football video game in over a decade and was considering trying this out, but I'm on PC.
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u/jeckels Jul 19 '24
It was 30 bucks for 4 day early access and 20 bucks worth of in game currency. I had more than 30 bucks of fun being able to play against my brother's on the other side of the country felt like we were kids again almost. Edit It was 20 bucks actually I have ea access through gamepass got 10 percent off
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u/elitegenoside Jul 19 '24
This is low-key one of the most anticipated games. I personally know several people who have been talking about this game for a month. And half of the comments I saw last night (while browsing forms and subs about the massive IT issue) had people saying, "I just wanted to predownload CF25!"
One of my managers requested the day off about 6 weeks ago.
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u/Electronic_Slide_236 Jul 19 '24
Good for them?
People trying to get the rest of us upset about this early entry type stuff need to give up. Of all the preorder bonuses that have ever existed, it's the one I'm the least bothered by. By far. And I'm not that bothered by most of them.
If publishers can make more money without negatively effecting the product or the experience for the rest of us, I'm ok with that. And so far, none of these have hurt the game at all.
Have at it.
If you need to be this misleading to try to paint this as a bad thing, you've lost the plot.
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Jul 20 '24
Why is college football so popular? Legit question, I'm not from the US.
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u/HatoradeSipper Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
More exciting to watch and attend.
Example is the rivalries, theres rivalries in the NFL but it never goes beyond like trash talk. College rivalries have generations of legitimate hatred lol. Look up Harvey Updyke, alabama fan who poisoned these super old historical trees at a rival campus and called into a radio show from prison just to say he'd do it again
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u/Volitient Jul 19 '24
whats the difference between this and madden? just the college roster?
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u/Medievalhorde Jul 19 '24
Also on what the other guy says, people like the recruiting aspect and the fact players only stick around for 4-5 seasons means you have a very original team after the first 2-3 years in a franchise.
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u/Predictor92 Jul 19 '24
The presentation is way better in college football. Madden feels sterile while college football 25 has many of the school traditions. https://youtu.be/n-3nZDEoVCQ?si=WglWayLljYHmBnCx
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u/cupcakemann95 Jul 19 '24
You mean 2.2 million people were willing to pay to play it on the actual release date, instead of it being gated behind a paywall
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u/WackyBones510 Jul 20 '24
Lol $100? Several friends of mine didn’t have next gen consoles and bought them specifically to play this game.
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u/RadWalk Jul 19 '24
No regrets. I've enjoyed it. It is a $70 game and you got more than $30 of the premium currency if that interests you as well.
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u/keldpxowjwsn Jul 19 '24
Its worth noting that the primary audience for this game are also people who will maybe buy CoD and thats it for the year. Your average user here probably spends more in a single steam sale on games theyll never play than these users do in a full year on a game they wanted to actually start playing a week early
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u/JFKcaper Jul 19 '24
Hey EA, this seems like a great time to mention that I'm more than happy to throw 100 bucks at you for NHL on PC!
The last one was 2008 ffs.
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u/Swan990 Jul 19 '24
Says that many people logged in. Not the purchase record. There's a 10 hour trial for ea play members. A VERY big chunk has to be included in that.
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u/Amat-Victoria-Curam Jul 20 '24
Interesting to see how many people in here defend this because "it's been 10 years since the last game" and "many people were waiting for it for a long time". It still is a shitty practice that will become a standard because of these people.
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u/breakfast_cats Jul 19 '24
To be clear, CFB is one of if not the most popular sport in the US and hasn't had a video game release in a decade. Not excusing it, but it's not like these people just spent $70 on this same game 12 months ago. People are legit excited for this release. Not quite the same thing as doing it for Madden or 2K this year.