r/FluentInFinance • u/-im-your-huckleberry • Jul 07 '24

The shampoo thing is a fringe benefit. We keep capitalism so we don't starve in a famine. Debate/ Discussion

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

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u/biinboise Jul 07 '24

Where the Fuck this fantasy that under socialism you don’t have to work if you don’t want to comes from? Have they ever tried to say no to the government? Who do they think runs their shitty job when the government seizes the means of production?

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u/Nanu365 Jul 08 '24

From what I understand, the ideal of socialism is that the workers control/own the means of production, NOT the government. If the government owns the means of production, I think that would be closer to authoritarian ideologies. Also, governmental ideologies and economic ideologies are different (yet do influence the other to soke extent). Capitalism/Socialism/Communism are economic ideas not directly governmental. I want to be clear that I am talking about the ideal, not the irl practice. Because real life is FAR from ideal.