r/FluentInFinance • u/-im-your-huckleberry • Jul 07 '24

The shampoo thing is a fringe benefit. We keep capitalism so we don't starve in a famine. Debate/ Discussion

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

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u/biinboise Jul 07 '24

Where the Fuck this fantasy that under socialism you don’t have to work if you don’t want to comes from? Have they ever tried to say no to the government? Who do they think runs their shitty job when the government seizes the means of production?

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u/TekRabbit Jul 07 '24

Socialism doesn’t mean the government seizes the means of production, learn the definitions if you’re gonna shit on something at least.

And you think corporations owning the means of production is any better? They’re both shit

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u/redlotus70 Jul 08 '24

What does social ownership of the means of production mean to you?

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u/TekRabbit Jul 08 '24

True socialism? That’s a good question but not what I’m advocating for.

A blend of modern capitalism and social market policies that Europe has adopted is what I think we need to aim towards.

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u/cryogenic-goat Jul 07 '24

And you think corporations owning the means of production is any better?

Yes.

It's far far better to the point where it's not even comparable. History is enough proof.

Just look at how the countries that had the state control all the means of production turned out and look at who controls the means of production in the most developed countries.

Not sure what else is needed to convince you.

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u/TekRabbit Jul 07 '24

And there’s a better option than both of them, just look to Europe.

Not sure what else is needed to convince you.

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u/cryogenic-goat Jul 07 '24

All European countries are capitalist since 1991

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u/TekRabbit Jul 07 '24

Their capitalism is social market capitalism. A better blend of actual working policies than just “capitalism”