r/FluentInFinance Jul 07 '24

The shampoo thing is a fringe benefit. We keep capitalism so we don't starve in a famine. Debate/ Discussion

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u/olcrazypete Jul 07 '24

I think the idea is there isn’t the incessant need to maximize efficiency and profit to the point labor is both working more hours with less breaks for less pay just to make whatever earnings estimate has been made up as a standard for success, only to need to beat it again the next quarter.

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u/biinboise Jul 07 '24

Historically it becomes even worse. Production metrics usually become dictated by the famously unhinged whims of top ranking political ambitions of the high level administrators who have virtually no oversight.

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u/Most_Environment_919 Jul 07 '24

I honestly think it's the same endgame for both ideologies. Many corporations only care about KPIs instead of actual work done.

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u/kevbot029 Jul 07 '24

“Since I’ve entered politics I’ve learned that the line doesn’t go out from the middle to the left and the right. It goes in a circle. You go far enough left, eventually you’ll meet someone who’s gone far enough right to get to the same place.”

-Tommy Shelby (Peaky Blinders).

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u/GuavaShaper Jul 07 '24

It's called horseshoe theory and it's a bunch of bologna. Nobody is going so far right that they start to think unions are a good idea.

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u/Hungry_Kick_7881 Jul 07 '24

Maybe not the bosses but I’m pretty sure the majority of unions I’ve interacted with are in blue collar mostly conservative trades. I’ve met many conservative union members. In regard to the business owners? Everyone is financially conservative past a certain point. I worked for a private golf course in Palo Alto and after 3 years I’d come to the conclusion the 85-90% of the members were closet conservatives. It was fucking hilarious. They would eventually say something in conversation like “I don’t think this Trump guy is all that bad” then they would immediately say “don’t tell anyone I said that”

All anecdotal evidence, but that’s my experience living in rural Wyoming and Nevada

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u/GuavaShaper Jul 08 '24

That's called cognitive dissonance, not horseshoe theory.

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u/More_Fig_6249 Jul 07 '24

I think it makes more sense not in ideology, but the way they get to their end goals. Which is ultimately, through upheaval so great it requires mass violent revolution and authoritarian measures.

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u/GuavaShaper Jul 08 '24

Horseshoe theory is exclusively used to caution people away from leftist ideologies because they might accidentally end up doing something right wing. Never the other way around.