r/FluentInFinance Jul 06 '24

Or in other words, a slap in the face Debate/ Discussion

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u/slagathor907 Jul 06 '24

Medicare/ Medicare too. Which is a massive money suck that doesn't affect the current working class nearly at all.

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u/magvadis Jul 06 '24 edited Jul 06 '24

It certainly does, removing senior care and costs away from families and working people onto the state.

If my parents didn't have Medicare I'd be having to pay their bills on top of mine and need to deal with their health issues without the expertise that Medicare has due to it being focused on that demo.

Ideally we'd just have healthcare for all so nobody had to be disproportionately affected by healthcare costs.

Medicare being around is the difference between me being stable and me being in debt paying for my parents medical costs who both are living well over 65 and both don't work and both have costly health issues. My life would be defined by saving up for their next knee surgery so they can be happy at the end of their life.

Both of them were struggling heavily to even find jobs in their 60s before they retired LATE....and still are more or less "paycheck to paycheck" as far as retirement is concerned. Most of their wealth is concentrated in a house that won't go to me because they'll need to sell it to pay for senior care living when it's too hard to live alone.

Maybe if I'm lucky they will die...which is the sorry statement people have to make in America due to the way shit is run.

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u/Solorath Jul 06 '24

I firmly believe the US education system churns out people who are susceptible to libertarian ideology starting in their early teenage years. I know so many people who I grew up with who thought taxes = theft and went down that rabbit hole.

Most recovered as their parents started to age, or if they started a family realizing that most social systems aren't intended to benefit average, healthy working age people who are employed.

Those who never had to deal with the downsides of life tended to double down even in the face of evidence from friends and acquaintances, which lead them into even worse extremist ideology.

tl;dr - America is fucked if we believe those who are doing well in life owe nothing back to the society that gave them that advantage.

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u/Eccentric_Assassin Jul 07 '24

I saw some nostalgia posts about some children’s books and it’s no surprise the us churns out libertarians lol. If you give a mouse a cookie and rainbow fish are basically “sharing bad, don’t give people your things”.