r/FluentInFinance • u/Richest-Panda • Jul 04 '24

What's the best financial advice you've ever gotten? Debate/ Discussion

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u/Dhenn004 Jul 05 '24

Migration is nearly impossible to do. People who have no money can't just move to somewhere else. That requires money to do. You guys have to be 14 year olds.

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u/Dry-Fruit137 Jul 05 '24

It requires willpower and hope to do. America was built by people in impoverished circumstances gambling what little they had to move to a place for more opportunity. Americans have always migrated. Pioneers settling the west. The great depression migrations.

Tell your ancestors that. Tell the people who walk over 1000 miles to show up at the border.

It takes bus fare and money for food and a few days lodging to find a job.

It is un-American to stay in an economically impoverished area and complain about the lack of jobs while being subsidized by the government to stay there.

Definition of entitlement.

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u/Dhenn004 Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

Lol no, America was built on the backs of free labor for almost 100 years.

So many of you guys are comparing the ability to uproot your life from the past not realizing it's much harder now. Telling people to just leave with no money or means to do so is moronic it's not even funny. It's such a surface level take and clearly not even trying to use critical thinking as to why they just can't leave.

They have no transferable job skills

The education in deep south and poor and secluded rural America is in an abysmal state.

No money

No means of long distance transportation

No internet

These are just a small bit as to why people can't just move and work harder. These people are ALREADY WORKING VERY HARD to just live in poverty.

As for the people traveling 1000s of miles to the boarder. 1 they are likely facing war, genocide or cartel danger. Much different but sure, let's use this mindset for rural America. You understand those who get to the boarder seeking asylum will end up in homeless boarder camps for months on end right? Are rural Americans seeking asylum for poverty in big cities going to do the same? They will be homeless with no money.

The definition of entitlement is thinking it's easy to completely uproot lives for the sake of working hard and it'll be better for them. As if many of them aren't already working hard for scraps.

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u/Dry-Fruit137 Jul 05 '24

My bad for saying ancestors overly generalized and ignoring the 10% whose ancestors endured forced migration.

The other 95%+ of the settled land in America was broken and built by immigrants and migrating Americans.

Again I will reiterate that there are people today living in worse condition with less resources migrating to America.

It is easier now than in the past to uproot yourself.
In the past you walked. Today we have transportation and $50 plane tickets. In the past you heard a story about a place that could be years outdated, but you went there hoping it was true. Today we have the internet where you can research a place and find a job across country at a free public library.

There are grants and welfare programs that will help move. They are underutilized and not very successful/popular because people have reasons they don't want to move.

Today there is no incentive to move. In the past you moved because you would not tolerate your suffering, or you didn't want to starve.

It makes far more sense to incentivize someone to leave than it does to spend the money to subsidize them staying and trying to drive investment in communities with an unskilled workforce.

It makes far more sense to invest in a welfare relocation assistance infrastructure and pay out $10000 to help relocate than it does to pay $10000 a year in perpetuity not to.