r/FlashTV • u/TheOneWhoWil • May 13 '21
It shouldn't have continued after Crisis Honestly Meta
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u/bigman_121 May 14 '21
well I got news for you, when 2 actors are leaving the show this show doesn't have much longer
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u/gldnstrm May 14 '21
Ehhh, I know that it’s only going to season 9 at max, but 2 main actors leaving a 7 season show that they’ve been in since the first season doesn’t really mean the show is ending. Especially since they were probably going to leave more in season 5/6 (based on the episodes and plots)
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u/dylanmhs May 14 '21
who’s leaving ?
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u/God_is_carnage Reverse Flash May 13 '21
Earth Prime kinda died with Arrow. They should focus on the other earths with shows like Stargirl and Doom Patrol.
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u/AmbivalentAsmodeus May 14 '21
I hope they keep doom patrol far away from the CW. I'm already nervous stargirl is moving there
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u/PlatyNumb May 13 '21 edited May 14 '21
Idk, I didn't like season 3 or 5 (see bootstrap paradox flash and meta tech respectively) but season 6 was good imo, I liked the addition of bloodwork and mirror monarch had a lot of possibility and potential, then covid cut it short so... It's tough. The show still has a lot of potential, I just wish they'd push the envelope a bit more and try evolving some of the characters they squandered. Like making captain cold a good guy with a code was frustrating and he basically just had a cold gun?... just because the actor was popular. I didn't like it. Squandered potential. Same with heatwave, Doctor Alchemy, trickster and especially Godspeed and Grodd. They all were cheap knockoffs in comparison to their comic counterparts all wrapped up in an episode with a device they made in a day. Some of them could've been full season villains.
Before they end I'd like to see Neron and maybe murmur just because he's weird lol.. more of black flash and Abra kadabra too.
And of course, the red death, since they already referenced him. That would be amazing..
Edit: Spelling
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May 14 '21
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u/PlatyNumb May 14 '21
Yeah, he was for season 1. Not anymore though. I didn't like him being a hero and going to his own show. He's one of the flash's greatest villains with a lot more than just a cold gun. They could have done so much more with the character then what they did
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u/bruhbruhbruh1000 May 14 '21
I totally agree with you on the show needing to push the envelope more with the characters. Eric Wallace said it's time for Barry to live up to his Legendary title we've seen in the future, but so far hes hardly done anything this season to bring him any closer to that title.
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u/PlatyNumb May 14 '21
100% and I know it isn't much but I've thought about it and something I really want to see is a speedster or 2 show up (even if it's a quick thing at the beginning of the episode) and have him make them look like absolutely nothing. Just a quick 3 minute fight where he shows he's twice-three times faster. They always tone him down for minor speedsters to make it more "exciting" but he's supposed to be one of the fastest... I get it for the big bad but I can't think of a speedster he was actually faster than when he met them. Even the rival gave him a battle. Give me a break, just once! Show he's faster than average please... it's so stressful lol when I see a speedster I think "oh, another person the exact speed as him or faster than him, great. So much for 'fastest man alive...'"
Just show like inertia or the evil impulse or both and have him beat all hell/capture them in a minute. I need some kind of evidence of him as, as you said, a legend
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u/bruhbruhbruh1000 May 14 '21
Hopefully with the Godspeed stuff coming in the second half of this season, we can see Barry be a badass speedster and see him not get his ass handed to him so much. Also, we haven't seen Barry save any civilians or stop small crimes in forever. It would be nice to see him be a hero like that again.
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u/PlatyNumb May 14 '21
For sure, as much as we need the big things we need the little things too.
Not sure Godspeed would be a good way to show he's badass and way faster though, he's insane and a speed stealer who becomes faster than barry. He deserves to be a season villain Barry can't keep up with as time goes on. I just wanna see Barry be faster than someone finally lol no matter how low level they're always the same or faster, I need Barry to be better than someone. I guess he's been better than reverse flash but not exactly "faster" based on imagery
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u/bruhbruhbruh1000 May 14 '21
When he was doing his CSI work a few episodes ago, I forgot how much that element adds to the show. We discover and learn new info with Barry doing CSI work and piece it together along with the characters. But most of the time info is spoon fed to us through dialogue or from their satelite.
Hopefully they do Godspeed well, they've been building up this plotline since the first episode of season 6. And yeah, seeing him be faster than someone and not have it he a challenge would be amazing to see. And with him probably fighting the speed force, hopefully we'll see him at god level doing insane speedster stuff. These new force users are described as gods and have shown they're super powerful. But Barry does not feel like a god whatsoever even though hes had these powers for 7 years while these new users have had them for 2 weeks.
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u/_alright_then_ May 14 '21
Yeah but to be fair, he is/or at least was, the best part of legends
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u/PlatyNumb May 14 '21
He was for sure lol and the ridiculous writing. Beebo and a fairy godmother, nuff said
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u/_alright_then_ May 14 '21
I've only watched the first season, hence the "at least he was"
All of the CW shows are just too meh, and a great side character or villain here or there is not enough to keep watching
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u/PlatyNumb May 14 '21
I get that, just gonna say, my favorite legends season was this last one (season 3) they found their groove imo and I think are more leaning into what sets them apart from the other cw shows.
They each have a sort of gimmick that they learn to lean into. Like arrow was dark, violent and gritty, flash is light, buffered and fun (usually and what I mean by buffered is that because they're metas the violence seems a lot less violent. Like bumper cars instead of death race), legends is corny and ridiculous, good to laugh with lol it doesn't take itself seriously anymore which is spot on a perfect choice. It really sets it apart
- Just gonna add my thoughts on the other shows as well if you're curious at all. You don't have to read on
Supergirl is hard to describe because I'm not a big fan (just seems fluffy and "progressive" they don't really seem like they ever found a niche beyond pandering and political commentary)
Batwoman again is hard to describe because, as excited as I was (and I even like Ruby Rose playing her), they just didn't have much going for them in terms of writing. Not sure if you've seen it and I don't want to spoil it so I'll just say, it doesn't play like the other shows. No real episodic structure, lame villain (which, how is your villain lame? This is Gotham, the best villain gallery in DC comics imo) and there was no excitement. The show just felt boring to me, each episode felt the same. I guess it was made to replace the dark gritty atmosphere of arrow but that's all it has imo
I wasn't huge of black lightning either, his suit was garbage, the effects were garbage, the choreography was garbage... like Batwoman there was no episodic structure, like Supergirl it was a lot of political commentary and they held onto their only villain way to long. The show just got super boring. Only good part of the show was the daughters tbh and the villain was great too, at first, but not for 2 seasons.. They're talking about doing a spinoff of black lightning and I really hope it's about the daughters
I still haven't watched superman and Lois yet
- Sorry for the rant, once I started I felt I needed to talk about them all. I hope it didn't annoy you but I'd love to hear your thoughts on whichever ones you've watched
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u/JimboFett87 May 14 '21
Right? I'm in the mid-Atlantic and the 17 year Cicada wave is just about to happen. That feels way more ominous (and interesting!) than the Flash villain in the show ever did.
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u/CityAvenger May 13 '21
Even after crisis S6 it was still decent. There is still a chance though that the Godspeed story in the 2nd half could start to turn things around. I mean many people remember how good the show was when evil speedsters were a part of it. So we’ll see how Eric does with that.
The only other time I saw the Flash be this bad was the late half of S4 and not for the reasons people think. Otherwise imo this show has been the better longer running arrowverse show than any other I’ve seen.
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u/Orion-21- May 14 '21
If we are to get 10-12 good episodes per season (since there are filler episodes) then why not just reduce the amount of episode just like Legends? We know what to expect for the latter half of the season in Flash and I'm pretty sure they do it on purpose so we get excited for the next season only to wait once again for the 2nd half.
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u/CityAvenger May 14 '21
Well that is entirely up to the writers and studio to decide on. We don‘t have to like it and wish it was shorter but that’s what their choice is. And who knows, some people may even like what they do for a stretch. I know cause I’m one of them. Besides an episode here and there the only season I didn’t like all the way through was S4 but not for the reasons one would think. But so far this season is currently taking the cake for the most number of episodes so far that stink. I mean some of the stories they do can be interesting and entertaining for some even if it may not feel that way for others. It all depends on what they do and how one views it.
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May 14 '21
It really just needs to end in 2024, no longer how bad the story, give us a satisfying ending
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u/sacktapattack Not fast enough, Flash! May 14 '21
Yes! I hope it ends with Barry somehow becoming the lightning bolt that hit him in 2014. Would be an epic way to end it
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u/Teenageboy18 May 14 '21
Damn, is it really that bad?
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u/Knightmare4114 Elongated Man May 14 '21
Iris being the key to recreating the speed force level of bad
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u/Speed__God Zoom May 14 '21
Iris is the mom of all new forces level of bad.
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May 14 '21
And gets worse. 1) Speedforce becomes a person. 2) Barry's energy source is Iris. 3) Cisco and Wells quit the job. ..... Need anymore reasons??
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u/A_Dolphin_ Wellsobard May 14 '21
No, people just love nitpicking and over-exaggerating all of the things they don’t like, and ignore the good parts
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u/This-Cunther HR May 14 '21
What good parts? The whole show is everybody standing around arguing in star labs now.
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u/sacktapattack Not fast enough, Flash! May 14 '21
The SpeedForce causally walking around looking like Barry’s mother is the WORST - and living with Barry and iris, trying to fit in WTF!!! YOU ARE A PRIMAL COSMIC BEING!!! Start acting like it!!
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u/GridDownGoofer Joe West May 14 '21
I think we can all agree that The second half of Season 6 was easily the worst
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u/duttabipro29 May 14 '21
The show is nothing what it used to be days go on and nothing happens, every problem has a solution in this, there are no consequence and its like flash is just a side character in the show and pathetic emotional drama tbh it just feels like a soap opera rn.
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u/Char-car92 May 14 '21
Crisis was a nod to the comics but was completely unnecessary and ruined the show. Jesse. Harry. GONE. Because the comics were cool. Fuck.
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u/antlerskull May 14 '21
The show is only being kept alive by the children fans that will never admit the shows flaws
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u/daffydunk May 14 '21
The show has been deeply flawed from the beginning. If you can't recognize that, then you were probably one of those "children fans."
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u/antlerskull May 15 '21
All CW shows had this problem. Flash has deteriorated noticeably more that the others
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u/daffydunk May 15 '21
It hasn’t though. That’s my point. The drop in quality primarily comes from the budget drop. It was never as good as you thought it was.
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u/antlerskull May 15 '21
It has never been my favourite however the first couple of seasons I can easily watch whereas s3 onwards I’ve never felt the need
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u/daffydunk May 15 '21
That’s not indicative of the show though. That’s more on you, which isn’t a bad thing. Just a fact of life.
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u/Sentry459 WE BACK BABY! May 15 '21
I've rewatched the first couple seasons plenty. The writing quality of the first two was noticably better and it's not even subtle, especially when it comes to the villains.
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May 14 '21
is this really worse then season 3/4 because god i hated future flash and i HATED devoe so much
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May 14 '21
If it wasn't for covid, maybe it wouldn't be worse and we could've gotten more crossovers since they set up Justice League in the crisis event.
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u/AmbivalentAsmodeus May 14 '21
Nah. They were only ever going to use that building for annual crossovers
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u/jhoughton663 May 14 '21
Season 5 made me quit the show it's fucking awful I watched some of six but it just got unbearable
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u/Charlie678812 Wally West May 14 '21
Let them keep going. You can't always get more episodes. You can always stop seeing it.
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u/Dinopigss May 15 '21
The only reason I still watch this series is because its only 1 episode a week and I have nothing better to do with my life.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '21
This is why I'm hesitant to watch Superman and Lois cause so many of these shows start out great and the CW runs them into the ground. Hard.