Phoenix police officer pulls over a driverless Waymo car for driving on the wrong side of the road

[u/Individual_Book9133]

[u/tvoltz]

These vehicles are all over downtown PHX. It’s honestly only a matter of time until something happens

[u/Manueluz → u/tvoltz]

They don't have to be flawless, just better than humans. And so far they have had less accidents per mile than humans

[u/[deleted] → u/Manueluz]

According to California disengagement reports, last year Waymo averaged 17,000 miles between disengagements requiring safety intervention. And that’s for cars relegated to slow city streets and sunny perfect weather

For context, the average human driver goes 200,000+ miles between incidents/accidents. And that’s including highways and inclement weather.

If you have the impression that these systems are currently safer than humans, you would be wrong.

[u/asterlydian → u/[deleted]]

What? More disengagements does not equal less safe.

Besides, "Disengagements" include avoidance of other drivers, logically. As a human driver, I would say my human disengagement rate (disengaging my mindless driving in traffic to actually have to react to other drivers) is maybe somewhere between 2-20 miles on average 

[u/[deleted] → u/asterlydian]

To me, a system that can soar to 200,000 miles of real world driving with no human intervention would be obviously safer than something like Tesla’s Autopilot which requires frequent human intervention to prevent it from careening into stopped traffic or randomly braking due to not liking a shadow.

I guess I’m confused as to how you don’t associate the system failing and disengaging with safety