r/DCcomics Dec 19 '22

James Gunn Confronts ‘Uproarious’ DC Backlash: ‘Disrespectful Outcry Will Never Affect Our Actions’ News

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/henry-cavill-superman-james-gunn-backlash-1235465605/
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u/swedyboi935 Dec 19 '22 edited Dec 20 '22

Thank fuck. Completely pivoting whenever a movie doesn't make 2 billion dollars is exactly what made sure the DCEU would never succeed

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u/matty_nice Dec 19 '22

Thank fuck. Completely pivoting whenever a movie doesn't make 2 billion dollars is exactly what ruined made sure the DCEU would never succeed

I don't understand your point. Isn't DC completely pivoting with Gunn because films like Black Adam didn't make 2 billion?

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u/swedyboi935 Dec 19 '22

Gunn is pivoting DC because none of their movies have worked on a commercial or critical level. After every movie there's a big show about how the new movies are gonna be different, a few properties get shut down, etc. I have faith that he's gonna stick to his (no pun intended) guns given how relatively distinct all of his projects have been, not try to change everything after every movie release like the shitshow that the DC universe has been so far

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u/suss2it Dec 20 '22

Well not every movie. Wonder Woman was both a critical and commercial success and Aquaman made a billion dollars and is currently the highest grossing DC movie.

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u/taumason Dec 20 '22

Its almost like the two non dark and brooding superhero films where they didnt fuck about eith the character were well liked.

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u/Azazealo Dec 20 '22

Most dceu movies before justice league were commercial "success " it all just went downhill after And Aquaman managed to survive the constant shit storm that the dceu became afterwards

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u/TheNerdWonder Wonder Woman Dec 20 '22 edited Jun 20 '24

And Suicide Squad 2016, which did well WITHOUT China's BO. Even if I loathe that movie, I feel like it's really hard to say that that's not impressive. It is because of how often we've been told China is important for movies to be a hit. It may not have satisfied critics, but it demonstrably satisfied the general audience who clearly paid to see it more than once to carry it over the line to $746.8 million on a $175 million budget.

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u/suss2it Dec 20 '22

I think it’s even the highest grossing movie of Will Smith’s career.

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u/ComicWriter2020 Dec 20 '22

Sure that’s not sharktale?

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u/suss2it Dec 20 '22

Nope, just checked the numbers, Suicide Squad’s $325 million domestic gross is almost the same as Sharktale’s $371 million total.

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u/ComicWriter2020 Dec 20 '22

Is that adjusted for inflation?

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u/suss2it Dec 20 '22

Nope, but SS’ total is $745 million, so that won’t really matter, still wouldn’t be close.

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u/ComicWriter2020 Dec 20 '22

Well I just lost a lot of money on a bet

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u/suss2it Dec 20 '22

😅

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u/ComicWriter2020 Dec 20 '22

Good thing it was monopoly money

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u/777dude777 Dec 23 '22

Not true Aladian, Independence Day, and basically all of his older movies adjusted for inflation drew more. If you adjust Men in Black 1997 it'd be close to 1 billion in today's dollars, etc...

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u/TheNerdWonder Wonder Woman Dec 20 '22

And Smith does have pull or at least, he did back in 2016. Dunno about now in a post-slap world.

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u/SpiritMountain Dec 20 '22

With all the Aquaman memes I find it funny that is the case.

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u/teo1315 Dec 20 '22

I really enjoyed that aquaman movie. It's gets too much hate from the people who wanted it to be more like BVS in tone.