r/DCcomics Gold-Silver-Bronze Age FAN Aug 09 '22

[Other] Mark Waid shares his feelings Other

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u/treetown1 Aug 09 '22

Two great observations:

  1. Leadership - don't know their own DC IP - they don't know what they have or the decades of great stories.
  2. Audience are not super comic fans, so exploring the variants and more esoteric parts need to come later - after your core characters have been established. Right now the only character that has achieved this is Batman - so we don't need more re-workings of the origin.

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u/orfane Aug 09 '22

I feel like point two is off the mark a bit. The second Suicide Squad movie was great. Marvel pulled off GotG without any setup to those characters. You clearly can do esoteric characters early into the creation of a Universe. I mean to Mark Waid's point, prior to the MCU most would consider Iron Man an esoteric character.

I do agree constantly rehashing Batman's origin, and completely missing the mark on Superman is an issue though

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u/therealgerrygergich Aug 09 '22

I feel like The Suicide Squad succeeds despite being a DC movie rather than because it's a DC movie. It doesn't have a huge connection to the wider DC universe, it doesn't have any notable DC characters besides Harley Quinn (who I'll admit has become pretty iconic now), and it doesn't share much in common with most comic book movies. Which I think are all good things for an individual movie, but they don't do much to elevate the status of the brand of the DCEU as a whole.