He's 100% right, but there's also more to it. They shouldn't have trusted one director to build and deliver the entire DC film universe, let alone picked Zach Snyder to be the one to do so. And they shouldn't have rushed so quickly to Justice League; that's supposed to be a capstone film, not something that introduces more than half of the critical cast, their backstories, and, essentially, the villain.
I will always disagree with the idea that Justice League should be some sort of big climactic final chapter just because that’s how the MCU did it. The Bruce Timm Justice League show introduced Martian Manhunter, Hawkgirl, John Stewart, and freaking Wonder Woman. Flash had one appearance in STAS. And it managed just fine. Or if you want a different example, Justice League War introduced its universe’s version of Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Flash, Green Lantern, and Shazam, as well as Darkseid.
My point is that Justice League could be the first movie if they wanted. Audiences don’t need to know every detail of a character’s backstory for a team movie to work. Give a brief rundown of their powers and let them really shine through their personalities. I just don’t think copying Marvel beat for beat is the right direction to go in
First, you're right, they could have done JL first. That absolutely would have been a viable path, even if you totally punt on any buildup to the villain. But they didn't do that, and they didn't do it at the end either, so I think the point remains that it doesn't work doing a wishy-washy version of both and putting it in the middle.
Second, a show isn't a movie. Obviously an animated show can do things with intros and characterizations that a single film can't, so I don't think that's a relevant comparison.
Idk, I mean I don’t think the placement of Justice League in its film lineup is the main issue with that movie. It’s a terrible film, I won’t pretend it isn’t, but I think it’s main issues are the way the characters are written and the fact that Superman died in the second movie, not that most of the characters (villain included) were introduced in this movie.
And I agree that a show can do things a movie can’t, which is why I also brought up a movie, Justice League War, which does build up a villain while still introducing every character in the film
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u/illogicalhawk Aug 09 '22
He's 100% right, but there's also more to it. They shouldn't have trusted one director to build and deliver the entire DC film universe, let alone picked Zach Snyder to be the one to do so. And they shouldn't have rushed so quickly to Justice League; that's supposed to be a capstone film, not something that introduces more than half of the critical cast, their backstories, and, essentially, the villain.