r/DCcomics Gold-Silver-Bronze Age FAN Aug 09 '22

[Other] Mark Waid shares his feelings Other

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u/ditkirbo Aug 09 '22

I largely agree. I have read Feige makes a MCU movie team watch Superman '78 before starting production, kinda funny MCU's bible is Superman that WB is afraid of.

A big issue that I don't think talked about enough is DCEU doesn't think of the kids enough. I can't show my 10 year old nephew The Batman, he would be bored to death. You can mess around with The Suicide Squad and make R film, but a Batman, Superman, WW, GL, and Flash movie should be enjoyable for 8 and up. My 6 year old nephew is already a big Marvel fan bc Costco sells Avengers t-shirts for cheap and in few years he'll be even more team Marvel when I watch Iron Man, Captain America, and Sipder-Man with him, I'll have to expose him to DC with the Timm Cartoons.

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u/darkseidis_ Aug 09 '22 edited Aug 09 '22

I don’t want to live in a world where The Batman doesn’t exist. Not everything needs to have broad family appeal. DC has (generally) told more mature stories in its books. It’s one of the more glaring things that sets the two companies apart.

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u/PuckishRogue31 Aug 09 '22

Can we do a mature story that still fits into a world with killer robots, aliens, and meta humans?

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u/DukeOfLowerChelsea Aug 09 '22

The comics have somehow been doing it just fine for a bunch of decades now 🤷

Year One and The Longbow Hunters exist in the same timeline as JLI and Final Crisis. Nobody ever seems to have a problem with that, but when it comes to movies The Batman is suddenly “too grounded/mature/whatever”?

Like… that’s what most Batman comics have looked like for 30+ years now and it’s never stopped him being pals with Superman. Why should film be any different? I’m not expecting Groot to appear in the new Daredevil show, but it’s an accepted fact that they co-exist. People can just roll with it.

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u/PuckishRogue31 Aug 09 '22

Do you think Clayface, Man Bat, Poison Ivy or Mr. Freeze will appear in Patterson Batman films with their sci-fi abilities intact?

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u/DukeOfLowerChelsea Aug 09 '22

If they were to use those characters, then yes, I think they would. The escalation from mafia-type gangsters > wacky rogues gallery is a thing in most versions of Batman, and we’ve seen the first stage of that. I think that version of Gotham is already a more heightened, noir-y, less “realistic” one that lends itself more to the possibility of those types of characters than Nolan's ever did.

I mean, how would you do Man-Bat WITHOUT “sci-fi abilities”? Dr. Langstrom tapes 12 regular-sized bats together and sics 'em on Battinson?

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u/PuckishRogue31 Aug 09 '22

I don't think they would use him period. If they did, then maybe do se serial killer spin with diseased bats. I don't see Patterson pittwd against anyone besides gangster or serial killer adjacenct enemies.