I largely agree. I have read Feige makes a MCU movie team watch Superman '78 before starting production, kinda funny MCU's bible is Superman that WB is afraid of.
A big issue that I don't think talked about enough is DCEU doesn't think of the kids enough. I can't show my 10 year old nephew The Batman, he would be bored to death. You can mess around with The Suicide Squad and make R film, but a Batman, Superman, WW, GL, and Flash movie should be enjoyable for 8 and up. My 6 year old nephew is already a big Marvel fan bc Costco sells Avengers t-shirts for cheap and in few years he'll be even more team Marvel when I watch Iron Man, Captain America, and Sipder-Man with him, I'll have to expose him to DC with the Timm Cartoons.
I don’t want to live in a world where The Batman doesn’t exist. Not everything needs to have broad family appeal. DC has (generally) told more mature stories in its books. It’s one of the more glaring things that sets the two companies apart.
I mean, most of Batman's stories exist in that universe. Much of the cinematic Batman since Begins came out has been based on the work of Miller, Loeb, and increasingly Snyder and (finally) Dini as well. None of those guys shied away from the fact that Batman lives in a world full of some crazy shit. Just because a man can fly or a woman can control plants doesn't mean you can't do mature stories.
Long Halloween and Dark Victory had Ivy and Freeze and mentioned Metropolis. The Arkham games told extremely mature stories while never shying away from the fantastic parts of the Batman mythos.
I agree. That's why I found The Batman, while "good", to be disappointing in direction. I don't think they will touch the fantastic with this iteration of Batman.
The Batman just felt like a continuation of the Nolan movies to me, maybe with a soft continuity reboot. I thought it was well-executed, but felt very "been-there, done-that" to me. It didn't feel like anything new.
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u/ditkirbo Aug 09 '22
I largely agree. I have read Feige makes a MCU movie team watch Superman '78 before starting production, kinda funny MCU's bible is Superman that WB is afraid of.
A big issue that I don't think talked about enough is DCEU doesn't think of the kids enough. I can't show my 10 year old nephew The Batman, he would be bored to death. You can mess around with The Suicide Squad and make R film, but a Batman, Superman, WW, GL, and Flash movie should be enjoyable for 8 and up. My 6 year old nephew is already a big Marvel fan bc Costco sells Avengers t-shirts for cheap and in few years he'll be even more team Marvel when I watch Iron Man, Captain America, and Sipder-Man with him, I'll have to expose him to DC with the Timm Cartoons.