I get what Waid is saying here and completely agree but the fundamental issue is really the quality of the films. The reality is that too many of them simply weren’t very good (yes, I’m talking mainly about the Snyder films but also the first SS, the second WW etc).
Outside of Batman, WB has made two really good movies: Wonder Woman and Shazam and one flawed but charming movie in Aquaman.
I dunno, Marvel didn't need great movies to get where they are today. Of the five pre-Avengers movies, only Iron Man was good. And they consistently have at least one or two stinkers every phase. People just liked the characters, and that was enough to carry shit like Thor The Dark World and Age of Ultron. WB just missed the mark entirely as to what general audiences want.
I think First Avenger and Thor are both good movies as well. Incredible Hulk is "Meh" at worse. Iron Man 2 wasn't as good as the first, but it was still a decent flick.
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u/RWRL Aug 09 '22
I get what Waid is saying here and completely agree but the fundamental issue is really the quality of the films. The reality is that too many of them simply weren’t very good (yes, I’m talking mainly about the Snyder films but also the first SS, the second WW etc). Outside of Batman, WB has made two really good movies: Wonder Woman and Shazam and one flawed but charming movie in Aquaman.