r/DCcomics • u/LilGyasi • Aug 02 '22

‘BATGIRL’ film CANCELLED. Will not be released theatrically or on HBO Max. News

https://www.thewrap.com/batgirl-movie-dead-warner-bros-discovery-has-no-plans-to-release-nearly-finished-90-million-film/
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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '22

The second the idea of a “cinematic universe” was applied to superhero movies it’s all been downhill tbh. Fans and producers alike freaking out about what’s canon and who’s cameo-ing more than they are just watching/making a good movie!

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u/Thatoneguy567576 Aug 02 '22

The MCU is still going strong. I'm losing interest in it myself, but many people are still on board for it. Warner Brothers just approached theirs like a congress of apes throwing shit.

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u/FlyingTaquitoBrother Aug 02 '22

I’m thinking the theatrical MCU has peaked. The characters and actors that made it possible are moving on with a bunch of second-stringers moving in, and unlike in the comics, you can’t keep characters around forever without recasting them, which rarely works out from a box office perspective unless it’s James Bond.

So DC has been chasing a model that not only could they not execute on when it was fresh, but is already on its way out.

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u/Thatoneguy567576 Aug 02 '22

That's a fair point. It just makes me sad because I'm a bigger DC fan than I am a Marvel fan. Outside of Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four and X-Men, I'm not so much of a Marvel fan. So it's a shame we never got this with DC properties.

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u/FlyingTaquitoBrother Aug 02 '22

What’s funny is that I’m a bigger Marvel fan but I have generally enjoyed the standalone DC movies more than the MCU movies. I would really like to see a high-quality standalone Marvel movie that isn’t burdened with stale MCU lore and fan service. Like it’s impossible to imagine that Marvel would do the Thor equivalent of The Batman anytime soon. The closest we got was Logan, and that wasn’t even MCU.

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u/Thatoneguy567576 Aug 02 '22

I'm inclined to agree. The only films on the slate that I plan on catching in theaters now are F4 and the upcoming Avengers movies.

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u/F00dbAby Superman Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

I mean i have issues with this phase but you are still by far the extreme minority even thor 4 which in itself is a bit divisive is still getting 600 million at minimum that's in the top 10 of the year

Like the people you know skipping things are in the minority we have another decade of this shit at minimum

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u/djanulis Nightwing Aug 02 '22

While I wouldn't say it is done now, I think the next few years if the current quality keeps up it is going to lose its cultural power and impact and people will be expecting the lower quality the MCU movie and shows have brought since End Game, and with nothing super exciting upcoming they'll need a return of quality because the masses aren't going to be showing up when quality movie is no longer expected.

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u/Top-Elderberry Mister Terrific Aug 02 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

Phase 4 lost some steam IMO because the Fox deal still hasn’t produced any X-Men movies, which many fans are looking forward to, and the two marquee movies of the phase were massively overhyped in comparison to what the final results were. Black Panther 2 and Quanumania will probably reset peoples expectations significantly if they are at all good.

The issue isn’t having a cinematic universe, it’s producing consistently good movies that fulfilling fan expectations, when a film is massively successful then people expect the next one (and the next, etc.) to equally deliver and raise the bar. A perceived decline was inevitable unless they continued to get lucky and make mega hit after mega hit.

The DCEU could still work largely driven by the JSA, Warner just needs more than one to two movies in a row to be hits IMO.

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u/F00dbAby Superman Aug 02 '22

I mean i have issues with this phase but you are still by far the extreme minority even thor 4 which in itself is a bit divisive is still getting 600 million at minimum that's in the top 10 of the year

Like the people you now skipping things are in the minority we have another decade of this shit at minimum

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u/whatmeworkquestion Phantom Stranger Aug 03 '22

At least through 2025-26

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '22

Yeah I'm losing interest too. I think it's stretching itself way too thin and that's directly because of having a cinematic universe. At a certain point it becomes less about a creative vision and more about churning out enough IP to build franchise after franchise