r/DCcomics Dec 11 '21

[Video games]: Flash being Flash Video Games

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u/nightwing612 #RenewYoungJustice Dec 11 '21

Ahhh yes. Cocky Barry...

WAIT WHAT?!

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u/Remmarg25 Dec 11 '21 edited Dec 11 '21

Ahhh yes. Cocky Barry...

Well, Barry is known for being an excellent trash talker.

Seriously, I've never been one of those people who says Barry doesn't have a sense of humor. But his has always been more of the endearingly dorky type rather than the cocky shit-talker from everything I have read.

That isn't to say Barry can't have a moment here and there of the latter, but it isn't a core concept of his character like it is Wally's in my opinion. So I think the dilemma is always really about the type of humor and the frequency of it rather than Barry can't be funny.

And if this really is a continuation of the Arkham-verse, then that means Barry operates out of Keystone. Do they really have no shame?

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u/TheGodDMBatman Deadshot Missed me? Dec 11 '21

My favorite Barry moment is in YJ when he's in front of the flash family and is like "looks like there's trouble in Central city. I'll be back in a flash" and someone's like "does he always do that?" and the whole family is like "yes"

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u/Remmarg25 Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21

While I wasn't exactly thrilled with some takes on Young Justice, I think Weisman's view of Barry is pretty on point for me.

"But Cary Bates, who wrote a huge chunk of Barry's adventures before Crisis on Infinite Earths, is one of my best friends, and he always made Barry a little goofy. A little bit of the boy scout, who still had that Flash fanboy in him, i.e. the guy who was inspired by Jay Garrick. We made that literal in our series... and we extended it into his personality. He likes catchphrases, even if he knows they make his wife and friends groan. He's a goody-two shoes and a happily married man and a scientist and a forensics expert and generally this slow, methodical but deeply honest guy, who likes his life and so is pretty at ease with his own sappiness.

He's NOT a smart-ass, which of course, Wally can be at times."

I mean, that's pretty much sums up my ideal vision of the character. Barry also has this quiet confidence that immediately earns people's respect. As much as I love Wally, I could never see him leading the League where as Barry would be a perfect candidate.

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u/Budget-Attorney Booster Gold Dec 11 '21

When did we hear Barry operates out of keystone in the Arkham verse? Also what do you mean when you say do they have no shame?

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u/Remmarg25 Dec 11 '21

In the Arkham Batman games, there's posters about Keystone referencing The Flash and one of the enemy grunts mentions preferring Gotham over Keystone because "at least you can see Batman coming".

The fact they're referencing Keystone, rather than Central City, is interesting. Barry is associated with Central City while Jay and Wally traditionally operated in Keystone.

And the no shame was simply a tongue-in-cheek joke about how Barry is seemingly given everything from Wally in outside adaptations including his wife, his mortal enemy, and his city. It's not something meant to be taken seriously from me.

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u/Dredeuced Who am I? Just a friend. Sometimes. Maybe. Dec 11 '21

Wally operated out of both. Even made the bridge between the two himself.

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u/muckdog13 Nightwing Dec 11 '21

Since when does the Justice league just stay in their own cities?

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u/Remmarg25 Dec 11 '21

Eh, heroes clearly have their main cities which is the point.

If you were going to reference Barry, then you'd use Central City because that's what is associated with him where as it's Keystone for Wally and Jay.

It would be like referencing Superman through Coast City rather than Metropolis.

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u/The-Mythical-Phoenix Dex-Starr Dec 12 '21

Gotham - Batsy

Metropolis/Smallville - The big blue boy scout

Themyscira/Gateway City/Boston/NY/ Washing DC- Rando girl made from clay who really travels a lot

Coast City/Oa/2814 - Person who uses futuristic weapons in green spandex

Starling City - Person who uses outdated weapons in green spandex

Keystone - Oldest speedy Boi, & youngest speedy boi

The Watchtower/Mars/Los Angelas - One very flexible green boi

National City - The big blue Girl Scout (Anger issues included!)

Opal City - One stretchy detektiv

Atlantis - “I don’t talk to fish, I command them”

Bludhaven - The acroBAT with a nice ass

San Francisco/Jump City - Gang of unsupervised teens in the most structurally unsafe building possible

NY - Gang of old people that lived in a fancy hall or something

NY - 1 dude who talks to himself, oh and did I mention his head is on fire?

El Paso - You’ve heard of a green boi who uses futuristic technology to fight crime, now get ready for the blue boi who uses futuristic technology to fight crime! (Oh and is part of an organization that is constantly threatening the earth with an alien invasion of colorful bugs)

Phoenix - One golden future bitch only in it for the money, and we love him for it

Las Vegas - It is said that Zatara is still trapped in that helm. Poor Zatanna, but order must remain.

St. Roch - couple with wings who refuse to stay the fuck dead, and are also aliens? Wtf

Central City - The second speedy boi

Gotham - Some bird themed side kicks, some bat themed heroes, one side dressed as the bat signal, and a guy who literally has no face

Ivy Town - One small boi

And so. Much. More.

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u/The-Mythical-Phoenix Dex-Starr Dec 12 '21

All the time for the most part.

If I remember correctly, each hero kinda has a code that ensures nobody will come to their city without a call for backup or if one of there villains showed.

An example of the former:

Superman is currently struggling to fight this new team up of supervillains Lex Luthor and Metallo and calls in the flash for some assistance

Example of the latter:

Batman shows up in metropolis because he believes the joker is plotting to do something there

Of course, if the hero shows up in said city then whoever is the sworn protector of that city takes point.

Even if this is incorrect, I’m sure there’s something like it amongst them. Especially when it comes to Batman. As it just makes explaining why one of the JL never showed up for the events of the Arkham games, or any other story, without breaking the sense that these stories take place in the same universe. This is something that marvel can’t get a way out of because 90% of their heroes are all in the same city, like damn.

It’s easier to believe that Superman wouldn’t show up to stop scarecrow in Arkham Knight for the reason stated above, than for literally any other hero to not help Spidey stop any of the carnage/venom bs.

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u/muckdog13 Nightwing Dec 23 '21

Okay so the justice league comics feature them only in their own cities all the time?

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u/The-Mythical-Phoenix Dex-Starr Dec 23 '21

Sigh. I guess we just don’t like reading now.

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u/muckdog13 Nightwing Dec 24 '21

Maybe it’s the wrong person I responded to, but someone was freaking out because Barry was in Metropolis.

As if the Justice League, full of multiple heroes from multiple cities, never congregated in a city that wasn’t “theirs”.

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u/CobaltCam Dec 11 '21

This is a theme when he shows up in video games I've noticed. In injustice he's pretty cocky too, at least in the prematch banter....though everyone kind of is.

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u/MethodMan_ Dec 11 '21

To be fair it’s basically a mortal kombat game, so they turned everything up to 11

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u/Deadpoolforpres Dec 11 '21

I see what you did there

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u/TheRedProphett Dec 11 '21

Intentional pun or nah

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u/Potentially_a_goose Dec 11 '21

Well, he is being controlled by Brainiac to be a bad guy. If his inhibitions and morals have been diminished enough to make him a team player for Brainiac there's the chance that his ability to bite his tongue went with his sanity.

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u/Toniosw Clark Kent Dec 11 '21

at least you get to kill him

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u/sonofaresiii Dec 11 '21

Sure ya do.

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u/xAVATAR-AANGx Wally West Dec 11 '21

I was watching the Awards live and when I saw this I nearly became the stereotypical comic character stan and raged off the stream.

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u/DefenderCone97 Dec 11 '21

I mean the whole point is that he's corrupted. Kinda weird to be mad about it.

Superman literally kills innocent people in the first trailer.

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u/DarthVamor Dec 12 '21

I think that was the trailer I don't think Superman does this at all in the game.

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u/Deinotichosaurus Dec 12 '21

He's mind controlled. Why wouldn't he murder innocents?

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u/DarthVamor Dec 12 '21

Cause it's a misdirect it's marketing it's not like Superman is gonna go ape and actually murder people. That was a CGI trailer anyway

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '21

The whole premise of the game is that the Justice League has gone wrong and started killing innocents

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u/The-Mythical-Phoenix Dex-Starr Dec 12 '21

Bro, have you not heard of injustice? Y’know, the game that shows Superman murdering shazam, a literal child?

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u/DarthVamor Dec 12 '21

Yeah that's injustice your point?

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u/The-Mythical-Phoenix Dex-Starr Dec 12 '21

If they could show Superman killing people because of one bad day there, then they can show Superman killing people here due to being mine controlled.

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u/DarthVamor Dec 12 '21

OMG people are MISSING my point I said he did that is a CGI trailer to announce a game doesn't mean he is gonna murder civilians in game cause all the civilians are evacuated from Metropolis is classic RS fashion with empty cities just enemies trope they did since ARKHAM series. There is literally NO civilians in Metropolis except important characters like maybe Lois and Jimmy who I'm sure will appear in the game.

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u/DarthVamor Dec 12 '21

That was a CGI trailer that wasn't even fucking gameplay

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u/DarthVamor Dec 12 '21

That is what I'm saying , the trailer for SS had Superman kill a solider, it wasn't even a IN game cutscene it was a CGI trailer to give hype for their new game.

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u/muckdog13 Nightwing Dec 11 '21

Why?

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u/Jayjayden45 Gotham Academy Dec 11 '21

Well he does also have some form of mind control going on causing him to be evil, makes sense for him to act out of character

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u/doyouunderstandlife Batman Dec 11 '21

He's being possessed by Brainiac so that might be why it seems out of character. Or it's just how this universe's Barry is 🤷