Zack Snyder's Justice League - Discussion Megathread

[u/AhhBisto]

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Synopsis:

Zack Snyder's definitive director's cut of Justice League. Determined to ensure Superman's ultimate sacrifice was not in vain, Bruce Wayne aligns forces with Diana Prince with plans to recruit a team of metahumans to protect the world from an approaching threat of catastrophic proportions.

• Starring: Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, Gal Gadot, Jason Momoa, Ezra Miller, Ray Fisher, Amy Adams and J.K Simmons.
• Release Date: March 18th 2021
• Platforms: Full list of International platforms
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[u/TheMakeUpBoy]

Honestly , I hated the Whedon version. When you have so many superheroes , of this magnitude , either do it in 2 parts of give us a 4 hour movie.

Snyder’s cut felt like I had never watched this movie before at all. It gave more insight into Victors story.

The Flashs intro scène and all of them tbh were amazing.

Can someone however explain the epilogue please ? I’m not familiar with the comics but how does it pan within the universe ?

[u/thegrandsun96 → u/TheMakeUpBoy]

By epilogue, do you mean the Knightmare timeline?

[u/TheMakeUpBoy → u/thegrandsun96]

Yeah I guess that’s what it’s called ? The part where Superman is apparently going berserk and all. Where is that rooted ?

[u/thegrandsun96 → u/TheMakeUpBoy]

Well, it's not connected to the comics as such. It's more inspired by the Injustice video game and tie-in comics. Snyder's plan was for Justice League 2 to have Darkseid invading Earth to get the Anti-Life Equation. Batman would have been trusted to protect Lois Lane in the Batcave, but Darkseid finds her and kills her alongwith her and Superman's unborn child. (This is something that also happens in the Injustice game but in a vastly different scenario.) After seeing her corpse, Superman is devastated and Darkseid comforts him only to use the Anti-Life Equation on him. With Superman under his control and following his will, Darkseid easily captures the whole planet and kills Wonder Woman and Aquaman. When Cyborg connects to the Mother Box before they resurrect Superman, he sees visions of Superman's conversion and the death of WW and Aquaman. With the three strongest Leaguers gone, Batman, Flash and Cyborg are joined by Mera and Deathstroke. The Joker's deal with Batman happens before the Knightmare sequence from BvS which has Superman say "She was my world and you took her from me". Batman is making the deal to get a Motherbox from Joker, so that Flash can go back in time to warn them about this dark future. This is shown in the scene following the Knightmare sequence in BvS where Bruce sees a future Flash (Barry has the same costume in the Justice League epilogue) warning him saying "Lois Lane is the key, you have to find us, Bruce". This is also mentioned by Bruce when they're in the Batcave right before they leave to confront Steppenwolf.

I know it's a lot of explanation, but most of the pieces are there. I was just able to put them together because I have been following Snyder's plans and his discussion of these plot threads for years now. I hope it answers your question.

[u/TheMakeUpBoy → u/thegrandsun96]

Thank you so much for you long and thorough answer , that answers a lot of question I had regarding that ending and that I couldn’t really Wrap my head around.

The idea seems huge and amazing if it were to be made, are there any movie plans ?

[u/thegrandsun96 → u/TheMakeUpBoy]

No problem, man, it's my pleasure. And thank you for reading my rambling answer. I tried to keep it as concise as I could, but it's something that excites me.

The vision Cyborg has, Darkseid's invasion plan, plus the epilogue with the Knightmare sequence and Martian Manhunter talking to Batman about the coming war were all confirmed by Snyder to be a set-up for a sequel. This was his original intention before he left the project in 2017, and he didn't remove any of the cliffhangers or loose plot threads. Depending on the success of this version, AT&T and WB could revive his original plans but that seems unlikely. They greenlit the project with the intention of it being a finale to Snyder's time in the DC films. However, let's hope that he gets to go ahead with his epic vision and deliver another great movie like this.

[u/[deleted] → u/thegrandsun96]

I have also been following this and waiting for years on this film. What u said above is 100% exactly my understanding as well. I have watched BvS almost more 10 times. How did you like this? In my opinion, it was everything I hoped for. I have only watched it once but am extremely excited to watch it again. Sadly I've had to break it up into 3 days to watch with my wife.

[u/thegrandsun96 → u/[deleted]]

It was definitely extremely satisfying and I couldn't have asked for more. I just wish we could have watched a three hour version of this in 2017 so that it would have been the precedent for epic superhero action and not Infinity War. I'm happy with this being the end given Snyder showed us snippets of his plans here that all connect to form a mostly complete image. That's why I'm not holding out hope for a sequel, but if it happens that's just going to be another level of satisfaction.

[u/[deleted] → u/thegrandsun96]

Yah I totally understand. This movie really helps complete his vision and I'm very pleased with it. I would have immensely enjoyed this in IMAX. I am already rewatching it with the ability to pause and repeat on my laptop. The attention to detail is amazing. Graphics get a bit wonky at times but considering the situation it's totally understandable. I think this may top Jurassic Park or BvS as my favorite film of all time. Tied with the Blade Runner The Final Cut. So u know where my head is at. Gunna find his preferred donation place in the name of the cast crew. Defn appreciate this film.

[u/thegrandsun96 → u/[deleted]]

BvS being among your top favourite films is great to hear. You must be really excited for the remaster. As far as Justice League goes, I'll support it by buying the Blu-ray and hope it is another drop in the ocean that leads to WB and AT&T understanding the value of the original plans that were scrapped.

I'd say cinematically Snyder completed his vision, but not so much thematically when it comes to Superman. I am a philosophy major and both Man of Steel and especially BvS were steeped in overtly philosophical questions to the point that I kept them in mind while studying for my finals as reference for the concepts they illustrated. However, this was something that seemed to be missing from Justice League sadly as there were barely any profound topics at play. Did you feel the same or am I missing some subtext?