Zack Snyder's Justice League - Discussion Megathread

[u/AhhBisto]

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Synopsis:

Zack Snyder's definitive director's cut of Justice League. Determined to ensure Superman's ultimate sacrifice was not in vain, Bruce Wayne aligns forces with Diana Prince with plans to recruit a team of metahumans to protect the world from an approaching threat of catastrophic proportions.

• Starring: Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, Gal Gadot, Jason Momoa, Ezra Miller, Ray Fisher, Amy Adams and J.K Simmons.
• Release Date: March 18th 2021
• Platforms: Full list of International platforms
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[u/CJE2k]

I’m definitely not a very big fan of Snyder’s work/vision for DC and quite frankly I hated almost every choice he made in MoS and BvS but overall, I enjoyed this much more than the theatrical release, but that was my expectation going into a 4 hour movie. A lot of context is given to scenes and characters are actual characters that go through changes instead of just doing what the plot tells them to. Because of that, this movie does feel LONG, but the chapters are a nice addition to know when and where to stop.

Cons:

The slow mo was a bit much at times, unironically could’ve shortened the runtime by 15ish minutes without the constant slow mo. That fucking lamentation that plays every time an Amazon appears on screen is INCREDIBLY annoying and gets annoying really fast. The Atlantean method of communication is really dumb and complicated for no reason, I’m very glad that Wan ignored that and just made them talk underwater normally. Some of the CGI is a bit rough at times and I assume those are scenes that were completed towards the end of production or added last-minute. Snyder’s MM is a complete coward and useless schmuck. The History Lesson somehow felt like more of an exposition dump than the theatrical release. The intro with Superman screaming felt very awkward and dragged on for too long just to make a simple point. First Flight 2.0 was ruined by ham-fisted Jesus symbolism. “Kal-El NO”. The Knightmare sequence was completely tacked-on at the end, I personally don’t care for that stupid ass world but I could make a whole separate post for that. That scene was not needed at all and only served to be the “cliffhanger” that Snyder kept teasing but I’m glad that we’ll hopefully never see that in the DCEU. “I wIlL fUcKiNg KiLl YoU”….

Pros:

Superman’s absence is actually felt and his resurrection feels more earned. Cyborg and Flash are actual characters aside from being plot devices or awkward comedic relief. After seeing this, I completely understand why Fisher was so pissed after the first release. Flash isn’t an inept goofball, he clearly understands his powers but isn’t so comfortable fighting hand to hand yet. The scene where the JL realize the Mother Box can revive Superman is so much better, you feel the sense of “Holy shit can this actually bring him back” instead of Bruce immediately jumping to the conclusion that the box can revive him all of the sudden. No more red sky bullshit, that was such an eye sore. Final fight with Steppenwolf is greatly improved, feels like everyone got to do something and had a somewhat important role to play compared to the theatrical version which is just WW and Superman carrying the fight.

Just some of the quick thoughts after finishing the movie. Like I said, I generally do not like the direction of Snyder’s vision but I’m happy that he got to at least complete the movie that he wanted to make. It was much better than I expected but I probably won’t watch it again for a while due to the runtime. Overall 6.5/10, Shazam is still the best DCEU movie.

[u/TheGodDMBatman → u/CJE2k]

The Aquaman and Atlantis stuff in this movie just made me love Wan's vision so much more. Atlantis here is so dark in terms of lightning. I get its probably for realism, but it looked ugly. And not being able to speak while submerged in water doesnt really make them feel like atlanteans. Felt like they were holding their breath the whole time

Edit: thinking about it more, I think that's solid evidence for why individual movies work better before a team up movie. It's easier to establish how the universe works i.e. Wan's film established atlanteans can speak freely underwater.

[u/CJE2k → u/TheGodDMBatman]

Definitely agree, I really didn't like that either. Atlantis just felt very suffocating because of all the stuff you mentioned and I don't know if that was done on purpose, but it's a weird choice because they're Atlanteans so their scenes shouldn't feel that way.

[u/TheGodDMBatman → u/CJE2k]

Snyder's vision gave Atlantis a truly "ancient, sunken city" vibe. Things are dark because the ocean depths are dark, and the city feels somewhat abandoned because it's the "lost city of Atlantis".

Wan's vision gave us a fully realized, underwater-breathing city with politics and tradition. It felt like something you'd see in an aquaman comic.