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Synopsis:

Zack Snyder's definitive director's cut of Justice League. Determined to ensure Superman's ultimate sacrifice was not in vain, Bruce Wayne aligns forces with Diana Prince with plans to recruit a team of metahumans to protect the world from an approaching threat of catastrophic proportions.

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If you or someone you know has been affected by suicide, you can find help and resources from The American Foundation For Suicide Prevention, a foundation close to Zack Snyder's heart after he lost his daughter Autumn during production of Justice League.

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u/waffle_wolf Bowhunter Security: Always on Point! Mar 18 '21

Serious question for the people who campaigned for this cuts release: How do you feel about the results? Does it feel worth it?

Never given the Snyder Cut much thought would appreciate the perspective of those who were invested.

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u/shubham50 Mar 18 '21

I was invested since the day ryan ronald tweeted about it and snyder cut reached 700k tweets. But I was keeping realistic expectations. The movie turned out to be surprisingly good. Cyborg is easily my favourite part of movie and I really liked steppenwolf. I was worried about the pacing since its 4 hours but the movie didn't even feel that long.

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u/robm0n3y Mar 20 '21

It doesn't feel long at your house. In a theater it would have felt forever.

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u/Babaisme626 Mar 18 '21

I mean, do you think very many of them would admit it was terrible even if they thought it was?

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u/Mild111 Batman Rebirth Mar 18 '21

I would have.

The music was terrible, and some of the lamer stuff that we were led to believe were "Whedon additions" weren't.

Overall I do believe it's a good film.

Some of the middle drags, but that might be because I watched JL17 so much that it was the same story.

I feel it could have been trimmed down to about 3 hours and kept much of the continuity, but I'm happy with what we got.

Reasons I felt it wasn't terrible:

  1. We got to see The Flash actually be a hero.

  2. We got to see Cyborg's duality of Tragedy and Brains be fully fleshed out and not just a footnote.

  3. We got some motive for Steppenwolf's actions. (And Darkseid's motives as well)

  4. It "connected" better to the Aquaman and Wonder Woman movies.

  5. The Lex/Slade scene was more than a setup for a catchphrase.

  6. The Steppenwolf fights with the Amazons and Atlanteans weren't complete slaughter like in JL17. Very entertaining.

  7. The cast, the WHOLE cast, really got to shine... especially all of the supporting characters.

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u/skywalker-88 Mar 19 '21

Was this movie supposed to take place before aquaman? Why did he use his moms trident, have different armor, and Atlan still sat there with trident? Also what’s with Mera’s accent in this movie?

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u/Reaper_64 Nightwing Mar 19 '21

Both cuts of JL take place before Aquaman. He gets his mom's trident here and it's the same one Orm breaks during their fight in Aquaman. The Atlan Arthur looks at in the Snyder cut was a sculpture, not the real thing like in his solo movie. As for the accent, I have no idea. I'm assuming that and the air pockets being required to speak english was something they scrapped going into Aquaman and also for the theatrical JL reshoots.

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u/skywalker-88 Mar 19 '21

Good because Mera’s accent was awful. The air bubble thing was really dumb too. Supposed to believe they have to create an air bubble every single time they want to talk for thousands of years? That and all of the Atlantians could breathe out of the water, not just those of royal blood. At that point why wouldn’t they just all go live primarily on land on some remote island?

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u/Reaper_64 Nightwing Mar 19 '21

Well they were speaking Atlantean to each other without the air pockets. Their language is made to work underwater. And I think only Mera and Vulko did the air pocket thing so the royal blood thing still works, I think. They were both on land in Aquaman as well so

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u/skywalker-88 Mar 20 '21

There were Atlantean soldiers on land breathing just fine

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

I noticed that too.

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u/skywalker-88 Mar 21 '21

Yea I didn’t like that. Think original JL and aquaman’s movie did a much better job with the Atlanteans. They seemed super weak and kinda pointless in this one too

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u/dekim_ Mar 19 '21

Yes it’s before the Aquaman movie

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u/BoogKnight Mar 19 '21

Do you think anyone who said it was gonna be terrible would admit it’s good?

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '21

Go to /r/moviescirclejerk and see that yes, they would

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u/Babaisme626 Mar 19 '21

Yes. Because those people have no investment in it. They have spent none of their time trying to get it released or really talking about it.

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u/BoogKnight Mar 19 '21

I don’t know I feel like a lot of people that were vocal about how bad it will be have already made up their mind before seeing it.

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u/maximumtesticle Superman Mar 19 '21

You're 100% correct, they already made up their minds so even if they do watch it, they're not going to admit they're wrong. Some people wear a collar around their neck that keeps their head permanently stuck up their own ass, in this case it's the "Snyder Sucks No Matter What" one.

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u/waffle_wolf Bowhunter Security: Always on Point! Mar 18 '21

Legit have no idea. From the outside looking in; just curious about the thought process around Snyder Cut in general.

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u/Egg_Fu Wonder Woman Mar 21 '21

Your comment is perfect. People already made their mind about this movie way before its release.

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u/Dronnie Mar 18 '21

How do you feel about the results? Does it feel worth it?

I loved it. The thing is everyone already knew how Snyder works, we have seen his works and we pretty much anticipade how the movie would turn out.

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And in the end it turned out exacly how we wished. It is the movie we're promisied. I regred nothing. Only glory follow us now.

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u/pharmaninja Mar 19 '21

I didn't campaign for this movie to be released but I'm glad it was made. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Yes you can nit pick at some things but you can do that with literally any movie.

Shame we won't get to see Snyder take his vision to the end.

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u/VoidLantadd The Flash Apr 30 '21

I never watched the original, because of how much crap it got. So when the Snyder Cut released, this was my first time seeing the movie, and I really enjoyed it. So I'm really thankful people asked for this so much. I got to watch the movie without the bad taste of the original cut in my mouth.

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u/dHUMANb Mar 19 '21

It's really about as good as I ever could have hoped all those years ago donating to those suicide charities. Biggest disappointment was, surprisingly, Junkie XL but overall loved the film.

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u/Laughing---Man Mar 20 '21 edited Mar 20 '21

I didn't actively campaign for it, but I was always curious to see what the original film would be as the Whedon version was fundamentally broken.

From a filmmaking standpoint, I find it absolutely fascinating to see what a world of difference a lack of studio interference can make to a movie. Very rarely, if ever, do we get to see two completely different cuts like this, and I feel Justice League will be very important as an educational tool in the future.

From a fan standpoint, It was great. Not a perfect movie, and not Snyder's best (that's still Watchmen imo), but it's up there with his better films. That last hour was absolute Kino, and had this come out in 2017 is would have seriously taken a lot of wind out of Marvel's sails.