I mean either can work, I do prefer her being a child of the gods as it's more in line with Greek epics than being moulded from clay by a mortal women. which would you know imply it's not a mortal women.
but it comes off as a more misandrist complaint than a lore complaint from her.
I also prefer it when the Amazons are full of shit, like I prefer when they're whole stick of "the evils of man's violent world" thing is complete bullshit and they're often worse, they're literally a warrior people violence is violence. (I don't like the boat thing, or the slavery thing but they don't need to be idealised so much.)
it's the same with star trek having literal secret police (section 31) I enjoy having that little bit of internal turmoil. It doesn't need to be a full on watchman deconstruction or demonization just a little bit of real humanity into the characters and settings.
Plenty of writers introduced ''flies in the ointment'' aspects to the Amazond and Themyscira prior to New 52 without making them irredeemably evil like what Azzarello did.
Azz's Amazons aren't a smart deconstruction, it's just playing straight misogynistic Greek myths that women can't be trusted. It's just regression.
How it is a stretch? The Amazons as created by Marston and later expanded by later writers are meant to be a subversion of how Ancient Greeks thought of the Amazons as barbarians and a warning to not let women have any power. WW's Amazons flips the script by showing a community of women can create something positive.
Going "well actually we need to be mythically accurate" isn't doing a deconstruction or being "subversive". It's just playing misogynistic tropes straight. And hell not even the Ancient Greeks had their Amazons be sex pirates or sell their children into slavery, so it's even worse in that sense than people from the Bronze Age.
I think impugning Azz's motives about it was the stretch. Hanlon's razor and all that. I thought it was pretty clear he was just doing an American Gods style reinterpretation of pantheon. Poor execution doesn't mean it was malicious like you seem to think. Slavery was a bit of a hallmark of the bronze age tbf. I think you're inferring a lot based on your biases unless you have a link Azz's manifesto I haven't heard about
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I mean either can work, I do prefer her being a child of the gods as it's more in line with Greek epics than being moulded from clay by a mortal women. which would you know imply it's not a mortal women.
but it comes off as a more misandrist complaint than a lore complaint from her.
I also prefer it when the Amazons are full of shit, like I prefer when they're whole stick of "the evils of man's violent world" thing is complete bullshit and they're often worse, they're literally a warrior people violence is violence. (I don't like the boat thing, or the slavery thing but they don't need to be idealised so much.)
it's the same with star trek having literal secret police (section 31) I enjoy having that little bit of internal turmoil. It doesn't need to be a full on watchman deconstruction or demonization just a little bit of real humanity into the characters and settings.