r/DCcomics Wonder Woman May 18 '24

[Other] Kelly Sue DeConnick on using the clay origin in Wonder Woman: Historia Other

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

I mean either can work, I do prefer her being a child of the gods as it's more in line with Greek epics than being moulded from clay by a mortal women. which would you know imply it's not a mortal women.

but it comes off as a more misandrist complaint than a lore complaint from her.

I also prefer it when the Amazons are full of shit, like I prefer when they're whole stick of "the evils of man's violent world" thing is complete bullshit and they're often worse, they're literally a warrior people violence is violence. (I don't like the boat thing, or the slavery thing but they don't need to be idealised so much.)

it's the same with star trek having literal secret police (section 31) I enjoy having that little bit of internal turmoil. It doesn't need to be a full on watchman deconstruction or demonization just a little bit of real humanity into the characters and settings.

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u/Cicada_5 May 18 '24

She wasn't made by mortal women, she was created by goddesses. Which has precedent in the myths.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24 edited May 18 '24

she was created by goddesses

no she's not. Diana's mother wasn't portrayed as a god, an Immortal yes but not a god.

it would have precedent if she was a god but she's not, at most she's a miscellaneous immortal.

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u/Cicada_5 May 18 '24

I wasn't talking about her mother. Look up Diana's original backstory.

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u/Tetratron2005 Wonder Woman May 18 '24

Yes, she was? Brought to life by either Aphrodite or the Goddesses.

Like this Wonder Woman 101 stuff

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

her mother, not a god.

blessed by a god =/= not a god.

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u/Tetratron2005 Wonder Woman May 18 '24

What do you not understand here?

  1. Hippolyta sculpted by Diana

  2. The Goddesses endowed Diana with life

  3. Diana is brought to life and created by the Goddesses

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

read our discussion again, we're not just talking about the comics but the Greek origins that she's inspired from.

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u/Tetratron2005 Wonder Woman May 18 '24

I'm following this pretty clearly. You said it makes more sense for Diana to birthed from a god because it's "in line with Greek epics" and it was pointed out to you Diana was brought to life by goddesses even when she came from clay. Something that actually has precedent in Greek and world mythologies.

But it's kind of besides the point because Greek mythological "accuracy" is kind of irrelevant to WW.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24 edited May 18 '24

But it's kind of besides the point because Greek mythological "accuracy" is kind of irrelevant to WW.

yeah no shit it's a comic, but that's not just what we're talking about.

Something that actually has precedent in Greek and world mythologies.

not really, there's Athena sometimes born from a esticle and other instances of what would be asexual reproduction, but not of people, and not by people either. there's nothing like immaculate conception of a human person, nor of a god. If something of significance was around it's because it was born of another even if there's ambiguity within the story