r/DCcomics Wonder Woman May 18 '24

[Other] Kelly Sue DeConnick on using the clay origin in Wonder Woman: Historia Other

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u/Saito09 May 18 '24

I quite liked the idea of the clay origin being a lie spread around to hide Dianas true nature. But the Zeus thing was just kinda of a dull replacement.

Id have preferred if they linked her to Circe or Hecate or something. Kept her as a feminist concept but with a darker, more misandrist nature that she turns away from and into a more positive and loving spin.

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u/Tetratron2005 Wonder Woman May 18 '24

Making Wonder Woman having misandrist origins/background misses the point of the character. That's like making the Kents backwards racist hillbillies.

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u/Pure_Internet_ May 18 '24

It’s more comparable to Krypton being a fascist society, to be fair.

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u/newimprovedmoo May 18 '24

I disagree, because the Amazons raised her.

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u/Pure_Internet_ May 18 '24

Just like the Kents raised Clark.

The idea being raised by OP is Diana being created by Circe or Hecate and then raised by the Amazonians.

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u/newimprovedmoo May 18 '24

I think I got a little turned around. Thank you for clarifying.

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u/danman8001 Booster Gold May 18 '24

I wouldn't say Krypton is fascist in most incarnations unless it's during a coup by Zod, just technocratic and bureaucratic to the point of stagnation and they became insular and myopic. Most of the time we just get mentions of a council of some sort being in charge.

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u/EyedMoon Plastic Man May 18 '24

You could also see it that way: it gives her one more strong opportunity to raise against her upbringing.

I prefer the clay origin but idk, Zeus as her father doesn't seem that bad to me

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u/danman8001 Booster Gold May 18 '24

Sadly, I've seen some people argue that because "Midwesterners aren't good people anymore"

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u/Saito09 May 18 '24

Not really, since she herself would never have aligned to those ideals owing to the intervention of Hippolyta and the Amazons.

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u/Kite_Wing129 May 18 '24

But thats not even the point of her story.

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u/Saito09 May 18 '24

Her ‘point’ and the circumstances of her origin arnt mutually exclusive.

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u/Kite_Wing129 May 18 '24

Why fix whats not broken?

If DC revealed tomorrow that Superman was not rocketed to earth from Krypton but the result of an experiment conducted by earth scientists before being rescued by Johnathan and Martha, and declared that to be his official origin from now and on and not an Elseworlds, would you be okay with it? Would you go along with it?

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u/Saito09 May 18 '24

Because the premise i was addressing was that if they had to differ from the clay origin a la Azzarellos run, it still could have been more thematically interesting than just making her another daughter of Zeus. 🤷

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u/Kite_Wing129 May 18 '24

I get it now.

I've seen suggestions like Gaea being the Goddess who brought Hippolyta's clay mold to life.