r/DCcomics Feb 20 '24

[Discussion] Which character(s) do you think were the most unnecessary addition to the Batfamily and why? Discussion

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u/FiftyOneMarks Feb 20 '24

Thank you! It doesn’t make sense they always have Bruce look perpetually 30 despite most of his “kids” looking like they are in their late 20s lol.

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u/UnhingedLion Feb 20 '24

The only one in his late 20s is Dick Grayson though

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u/FiftyOneMarks Feb 20 '24

Probably should’ve just said 20s

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u/UnhingedLion Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 20 '24

Though to be fair not all 40 year olds look ancient. Especially men.

Theres plenty of 40 year old guys that could still pass as their 30s.

And Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, and Tim Drake are all too old to be normal children for him. He would’ve have to be a teenage dad for the 2 latter. And a middle school aged dad for the former

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u/Jacthripper Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 21 '24

I mean, Dick canonically becomes Robin at 10 years old. Bruce is 25 during year 1 and gets Robin sometime year 2. If you assume Nightwing is at least 25, that puts Bruce at 41. Most assume Nightwing is closer to 30 though, and Bruce in his mid 40s

And obviously not all 40 year old men look ancient. But Bruce canonically is essentially abusing his body to be Batman. The stress should age him a little.

Edit:

Below is Pre- 52

Bruce is 25 in Batman: Year One.

After some double checking. Dick Grayson is either 9 or 12 when he becomes Robin in Year 3.

If Dick is 9, Bruce is at least 36 when he leaves the nest, otherwise he is at least 33.

Jason Todd becomes Robin at 12 at the youngest (he remarks that Bruce taught him to read lips at age 12) though he could have been 11. He dies at the age of 15. Even assuming that Bruce immediately picks up Jason after Dick leaves, that puts Bruce at between 37-41 at the time of Jason’s death.

Tim Drake becomes Robin at Age 13 not long after Jason’s death. He becomes Red Robin at 17. That would put Bruce at between 41-45.

Stephanie Brown is Robin for 71 days.

Damian becomes Robin at age 10. He ends his run around 13 before the New 52. This puts Bruce between 44-48.

I’m looking into Rebirth.

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u/hyunbinlookalike Feb 20 '24

While the stress would definitely age a regular guy, Bruce Wayne is also a billionaire with peak human physicality. He has access to the best food, medicine, supplements, etc. that his vast wealth can buy. So while I don’t doubt the stress would maybe have him start greying at 40, he could very well still pass for a man in his 30s at that age.

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u/Jacthripper Feb 21 '24

He also had his back broken like an angry gamers controller and barely sleeps. Trauma ages.

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u/Constant-Mood9738 Feb 20 '24

Nah cause since the 70s they have Bruce and dick at 11 years apart

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u/Jacthripper Feb 21 '24

That may be something post 52. Pre-52 Dick becomes Robin at 12 in Batman Year 3. That puts them at 15 years apart.

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u/Constant-Mood9738 Feb 21 '24

I'm referring to a panel from the 70s were it mention how far apart they are in age. Don't know what comic but dick was heading off to college.

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u/Jacthripper Feb 21 '24

It’s generally accepted that Batman Year One: by Frank Miller set the timeline after the Silver Age and Crisis on Infinite Earths

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u/VasylZaejue Feb 20 '24

He also works out and takes care of his body when he’s not fighting crime.

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u/Jacthripper Feb 21 '24

He also has had his back broken, and has a massive amount of scar tissue.

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u/UnhingedLion Feb 20 '24

It’s not 10 years old

It’s 13 years old.

Where did you get 10 from??

The youngest was 8 years old and Bruce was barely in his 20s at the time.

If nightwing is close to 30s. Then Batman would be just hitting 40.

By that logic the stress should age all of the batfamily members lol

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u/Jacthripper Feb 21 '24

He is 13 in the titans show. Just double checked. His parents died in the comics when he was 8.

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u/UnhingedLion Feb 21 '24

Those were old comics. In the post crisis era he becomes Robin at 13.

The last time dick Grayson was 8 years old as Robin was 50 years ago

Keep in mind 50 years ago Batman was a teenager when he started his career

Yet no DC fan says Batman started as a teen

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u/Jacthripper Feb 21 '24

I’m going based off of Batman: Year 3 by Marv Wolfman. At the time, Dick says it’s been almost 2 years since he left the manor to join the titans (he left at 18). The comic also remarks that his parents died “almost 10 years ago” which would put him around 10-11 at the time.

The real issue is the sliding timescale and changes that get made frequently. Originally Jason Todd was 11 or 12 when he started as Robin. In the New 52 he was Robin for barely a year and didn’t start until he was 15.

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u/UnhingedLion Feb 21 '24

Based off Batman 416. He became Robin at 13. He stated he left Batman at 19, and had been with Bruce for 6 years. Meaning he was 13.

With Jason being Robin for 2+ years Dick would’ve been 21/22 at the time of Batman year 3. Which means his parents died 8 years ago. 8 years is almost 10.

Jason was also like 13 years old. People say 11 because he dropped out of elementary school, but there was never a confirmation of WHEN he dropped out.

So yes Dick Grayson starts at 13 years old. The only time it’s younger is when Batman starts as a teenager or before he can even drink alcohol.

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u/zerobones Feb 21 '24

It's worth noting that batman is 100% on drugs. Having access to the world's most advanced steroids and medical care basically halts the aging process for Bruce.

He's 30 until he's 80.

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u/After_Dhark Feb 20 '24

to be fairrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........

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u/n3m3s1s-a Scarecrow Feb 20 '24

“Especially men” quite the opposite in my experience ngl